Kevin Willis wrote:
Its amazing that hes an elite shooter and ball handler now
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Kevin Willis wrote:
Boogie! wrote:gerrit4 wrote:HeadtopChunes wrote:
He has big hands so it should be easier for him to develop handle than other players. Hopefully that happens eventually. It’s doubtful he develops his handles to an elite level like Paul George did but I think he can get it to an above average level eventually.
It will be interesting to see. To my eyes, his body doesn't really move as fluidly as a lot of those guys, but some of that might have been injury related.
In Demar's rookie year, I'd argue that he was the worst ball-handling SG in the entire league, and by the time we traded him, he was probably among the best. I never saw that coming. So now I'll never write off a player's handle.
To my eyes (and I'm by no means a shooting expert), I've always felt that OG's lower body strength and lower body form is why he's been able to be a pretty good 3pt shooter in the league so far, even though his release has looked pretty tight and ugly to me. Pascal on the other hand (2 seasons ago) had a fine release -low and sloppy, but soft and fluid, but his lower body always looked out of whack. He really improved his shot preparation last year, and became a good enough 3pt shooter.
If OG can ever become an efficient 12ppg player, I'll be thrilled. I have no doubts that he'll always be a very good defender, and I'm pretty confident he can get to league average offensively. Anything above that is gravy.
By demars second season he was finishing in traffic regularly and shooting post fadeawaysover defenders. People like to look at things like "handle" in a vacuum without realizing that other factors play a role in a players ability to create and finish. Og is awkward around the basket with nobody control or craftiness. When he encounters defense he just wildly throws up a shot. He's Terrence Ross like in that regard and Ross didn't even have a bad handle. Theres things that can improve through hard work and things that may never get better. There's a reason why not every player is a superstar and it has nothing to do with just hard work.
Boogie! wrote:This isn't meant to be negative, but are there any specific accounts of guys becoming much better shooters after changing their shooting form in the middle of their NBA career?
team edward wrote:Life circumstances took away his shot at contributing to a title. I expect him to be playing with a chip on his shoulder.
mdenny wrote:In anycase....Masai is probably gonna make Fred the first active player/head coach in franchise history now that Nurse is out of the way. That's been the plan all along.
Boogie! wrote:team edward wrote:Life circumstances took away his shot at contributing to a title. I expect him to be playing with a chip on his shoulder.
Tbh he didn't fit in last years playoff run. Our defense was already great without him, and our inability to generate offense outside of kawhi is why we struggled at times in the Philly series and that's not his strong suit.
If og wants to be a contributor he has to take a legit huge step similar to siakam, but again I just don't see it. Norman Powell is the one guy I want to be forcefeed minutes, I hope we don't forcefeed og minutes just to make him feel better if he's not contributing.
Boogie! wrote:team edward wrote:Life circumstances took away his shot at contributing to a title. I expect him to be playing with a chip on his shoulder.
Tbh he didn't fit in last years playoff run. Our defense was already great without him, and our inability to generate offense outside of kawhi is why we struggled at times in the Philly series and that's not his strong suit.
If og wants to be a contributor he has to take a legit huge step similar to siakam, but again I just don't see it. Norman Powell is the one guy I want to be forcefeed minutes, I hope we don't forcefeed og minutes just to make him feel better if he's not contributing.
antonaki1 wrote:If OG could bring a lot of what Danny Green brought to the table he would be a very valuable piece of the Raptor's future. Beyond defending he has the ability to rebound better and protect the rim as well as become a top notch 3 point shooter. His long range shooting has been very good to this point of his young career and should continue to improve going forward.
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