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Re: This Lakers roster is extrememly unimpressive 

Post#121 » by NPZ » Sun Nov 3, 2019 3:53 pm

Firespo wrote:Lebron looks like he took kinda a big step back for him.
Can he even shoot anymore? Every time I see him take a shot from 15 feet and out he misses.

Edit: nvm I watched his highlights from last night. His jumper looks fine.


Lol. Is this real? N/M, I was totally wrong from one second to the next. :lol:
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Re: This Lakers roster is extrememly unimpressive 

Post#122 » by NPZ » Sun Nov 3, 2019 3:57 pm

lonzo_pelota wrote:give kuzma a couple weeks to get back in the swing of things, he's got a axe to grind and a contract to earn.


You and me are gonna throw Kuz out a window if he shoots like he did last year. PM me your number, I need to be able to contact you in April. We're gonna do this thing.
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Re: This Lakers roster is extrememly unimpressive 

Post#123 » by NPZ » Sun Nov 3, 2019 4:03 pm

Dupp wrote:A lot of the role players are poo. they need some more moves. Dwights been very impressive, i like caruso. Green, lebron and AD obviously good.

kcp, ab, magee suck. Rondo will be brutal for that team when he comes back. They need kuzma to be decent.

But yeah you cant trust a lot of these guys come playoffs. howd all these bums get player options?


Bradley has been looking pretty decent of late, tbh. Better than I thought he'd be, at least. He hustles on D as a rule and can convert layups and floaters, and I say that as a fan of a team who's had guards like Knuckleball Fisher. I know he said he sucked last year, but thus far, he's been a welcome addition, especially since he can take minutes from Pope Pitiful (KCP).
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Re: This Lakers roster is extrememly unimpressive 

Post#124 » by NPZ » Sun Nov 3, 2019 4:09 pm

Lilseb93 wrote:My concern is 82 games in. LeBron and AD are shouldering a lot of the load right now. They are capable of doing that all season, but eventually it's going to catch up to them. But they are going to be really tough in the playoffs if they are healthy and ready to go.


Agreed, they need to pile up wins now so they can have the luxury of LM w/ Brawn especially. He may be a 35 yr old beast, but he's still a 35 year old beast. He can't be doin a majority of the season like he did in the Mavs game. Too much if he's gonna last til June.
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Re: This Lakers roster is extrememly unimpressive 

Post#125 » by JellosJigglin » Sun Nov 3, 2019 5:35 pm

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evilpimp972 wrote:His ability to warm up the bench will be important.
Rondo is not a solution, stop with that!


Rondo can play. Last season he was put in when ball movement became static. He's the type that can enter the game cold and rack up 6 assists in a quarter and then sit for the rest of the game. Preseason he looked good with AD in the pick n roll. Don't count him out yet.

Nah sorry he hasnt been a positive impact player since his Boston days.
6 assists by pounding the ball and destroying any spacing no thanks, plus he doesnt play defense. In the pre season he had one good game then looked like he was a bad fit.


The Lakers depended on him to win games for them last season. Obviously in that role he will let you down. But as a guy who can come in to jumpstart a bogged down offense, he can still fill a specific role in limited minutes. If the offense is sputtering and guys are forcing contested shots, then who cares if he's dribbling the ball and creating open looks for teammates? That's what you need in that situation.

If the team needed him to play big minutes than I would agree with you. But I'm not going to complain about it until I see how Vogel uses him. This isn't the same Laker team as last season and Vogel is in a tier above Luke Walton as a head coach.
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Post#126 » by TheRealKaboom » Sun Nov 3, 2019 9:39 pm

norcocredo wrote:Which rosters are ‘impressive’?

According to RealGM GB/ESPN, the Clippers. They both gave the Lakers a 0% chance to win the title.

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Post#127 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 9:44 pm

The depth is definitely unimpressive, but that was already expected. But they still have 4 dudes playing at a really high level and 2 of them are playing at a ridiculous level. LeBron, AD, Green and Dwight have all been high impact guys with AD and LeBron playing at or near MVP level.

Here are the big questions for LA, can they stay healthy. Can Dwight keep this level of play up. Can Kuzma take a step forward and be an impact player.

Definitely a good amount of questions, but who the hell will want to play this team come the playoffs if these 4 guys keep this play up and Kuzma joins in? Not saying they will be favorites, but no team will be eager to play them.
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Post#128 » by nbhadja » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:00 pm

Howard AD Lebron Green Bradley is a scary lineup. The lakers get Rondo back and will probably add a quality bench wing from the buyout market. Kuzma as 6th man. The depth is not bad.
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Post#129 » by Repeat 3-peat » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:02 pm

Imo It's way too early to make a big deal about which team is impressive or not impressive this early in the season. There are a lot of games to be played. Players/teams are still finding rhythm, some start fast and cool down, others are the opposite.
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Post#130 » by zimpy27 » Sun Nov 3, 2019 10:33 pm

Instead of Kawhi he Lakers effectively picked up Green, KCP, Cook, Cousins, McGee.

Imagine they got Kawhi though, team would probably be:
Rondo, Kawhi, LeBron, AD, Howard
Caruso, Bradley, Daniels, Dudley, Chandler

That would have made for a boring few seasons
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Re: This Lakers roster is extrememly unimpressive 

Post#131 » by baldur » Sun Nov 3, 2019 11:45 pm

NPZ wrote:
Firespo wrote:Lebron looks like he took kinda a big step back for him.
Can he even shoot anymore? Every time I see him take a shot from 15 feet and out he misses.

Edit: nvm I watched his highlights from last night. His jumper looks fine.


Lol. Is this real? N/M, I was totally wrong from one second to the next. :lol:


at least he got the wisdom to admit that he was mistaken. it is a rare personal trait these days.
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Post#132 » by Pelly24 » Mon Nov 4, 2019 12:32 am

I disagree. This roster is a solid one for a top-heavy superteam, and if Kuzma is at least solid they're my favorite to win the title.

LeBron & AD = The best duo in the league. I don't all the way buy Paul George and besides last year, he's very streaky as a scorer from month to month. LeBron and AD are dropping an efficient 30 no matter who they play next yea in the playoffs.

Third Option = Kyle Kuzma averaged 18 ppg on borderline league-average efficiency last year. Kuzma has some talent as a shot maker and solid size to guard a few positions. His three-point shot dropped from 37% to 31%. If he can shoot greater than 34% on threes, he could do a very nice job spacing the floor with Danny Green and sometimes Avery Bradley. If he can be even an average defender and get his TS% to 55 TS%>>> while being solid shooting threes, he's a pretty big positive and there will be games AD or LeBron can take it easy.

3&D Guys: Danny Green is the third-best player on this team until proven otherwise. He's a surprisingly coveted 3&D guy. He can go gold, but he's a dependable three-point shooter and can be a key part of a defensive phalanx. Avery Bradley can't guard big players, but he's got very quick feet and is still able to man-up and has the attributes to stay with the quick/shifty guards that can light up a defense. He can also shoot the three at around 36% depending on the year. Rodno has very quietly shot around 37% from three the last few years. At times he can be solid on defense.

Backup playmakers = Say what you want about Rondo, but he's one of the best basketball minds in the game. He can facilitate the offense when LeBron is on the bench, and if Kuzma is solid and takes a half-step forward, AD and LeBron can be on the bench and he can get Kuzma some easy shots. I've seen flashes of nice playmaking from Kuzma, too. Avery Bradley isn't a great passer, but he can pass a bit.

Backup Bigs: Dwight Howard has been great so far because he's doing all the little things and not complaining about it. His defense rating obviously won't stay where it is, but it's currently at 89. He's clearly a solid defensive big still and that's very important. Javale is okay, but he can catch lobs and be a deterrent. Anthony Davis doesn't want to play the five, and because of the Lakers lineup, he doesn't really have to unless it's the rare situation that demands it.

They have something for every thing they need. Solid defensive big rotation. A proven, rock-solid 3&D guy and another decent-ish one Avery Bradley. A nice backup PG on a team that doesn't need help scoring. Two guys with legit center size who can make AD comfortable and keep him from always playing the 5. That's not really bad at all. Not everyone can be the 2015-2016 warriors.

On top of all of this, it's been reported that Iggy prefers to go to the lakers. If he goes to the lakers, they now have two very solid perimeter defenders. Iggy can also pass and shoot capably and finish plays.

But even without Iggy this is a very solid roster.
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Post#133 » by JB2 » Mon Nov 4, 2019 1:12 am

Pelly24 wrote:I disagree. This roster is a solid one for a top-heavy superteam, and if Kuzma is at least solid they're my favorite to win the title.

LeBron & AD = The best duo in the league. I don't all the way buy Paul George and besides last year, he's very streaky as a scorer from month to month. LeBron and AD are dropping an efficient 30 no matter who they play next yea in the playoffs.

Third Option = Kyle Kuzma averaged 18 ppg on borderline league-average efficiency last year. Kuzma has some talent as a shot maker and solid size to guard a few positions. His three-point shot dropped from 37% to 31%. If he can shoot greater than 34% on threes, he could do a very nice job spacing the floor with Danny Green and sometimes Avery Bradley. If he can be even an average defender and get his TS% to 55 TS%>>> while being solid shooting threes, he's a pretty big positive and there will be games AD or LeBron can take it easy.

3&D Guys: Danny Green is the third-best player on this team until proven otherwise. He's a surprisingly coveted 3&D guy. He can go gold, but he's a dependable three-point shooter and can be a key part of a defensive phalanx. Avery Bradley can't guard big players, but he's got very quick feet and is still able to man-up and has the attributes to stay with the quick/shifty guards that can light up a defense. He can also shoot the three at around 36% depending on the year. Rodno has very quietly shot around 37% from three the last few years. At times he can be solid on defense.

Backup playmakers = Say what you want about Rondo, but he's one of the best basketball minds in the game. He can facilitate the offense when LeBron is on the bench, and if Kuzma is solid and takes a half-step forward, AD and LeBron can be on the bench and he can get Kuzma some easy shots. I've seen flashes of nice playmaking from Kuzma, too. Avery Bradley isn't a great passer, but he can pass a bit.

Backup Bigs: Dwight Howard has been great so far because he's doing all the little things and not complaining about it. His defense rating obviously won't stay where it is, but it's currently at 89. He's clearly a solid defensive big still and that's very important. Javale is okay, but he can catch lobs and be a deterrent. Anthony Davis doesn't want to play the five, and because of the Lakers lineup, he doesn't really have to unless it's the rare situation that demands it.

They have something for every thing they need. Solid defensive big rotation. A proven, rock-solid 3&D guy and another decent-ish one Avery Bradley. A nice backup PG on a team that doesn't need help scoring. Two guys with legit center size who can make AD comfortable and keep him from always playing the 5. That's not really bad at all. Not everyone can be the 2015-2016 warriors.

On top of all of this, it's been reported that Iggy prefers to go to the lakers. If he goes to the lakers, they now have two very solid perimeter defenders. Iggy can also pass and shoot capably and finish plays.

But even without Iggy this is a very solid roster.


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It'll be interesting to see who's getting waived/moved if Iggy comes available. Daniels seems like the logical choice if he isn't a consistent shooter. I think Boogie is obviously a contender to get waived but IMO they know AD wouldn't love that and right now they want to do all they can do to keep him happy.
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Re: This Lakers roster is extrememly unimpressive 

Post#134 » by lecola » Mon Nov 4, 2019 2:38 am

Lakers is playing an oldschool game and it is joyful to watch. We all missed watching real basketball and that's what they are playing now. They are in the bottom with Spurs in 3 point attemps per game and their inside-outside balance is really good. They don't rely on threes as lots of other teams but once their personnel finds their rhythms, they will be above average in this department as well.

Defence is the main reason for their success right now and I can easily say that they are the best defensive team in whole Nba when Howard-Davis and Caruso are on the floor.

They will be even better when Lebron and Kuzma find their shooting grooves.
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Post#135 » by Edrees » Mon Nov 4, 2019 2:42 am

With Golden State out of the picture, maybe you don't need elite three point shooting to be a title contending team. Every team but Golden State had off nights on their shooting.
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Post#136 » by MadNESS » Mon Nov 4, 2019 3:05 am

5-1 and first in the west and still the hate
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Post#137 » by cycl0nus » Mon Nov 4, 2019 4:21 am

Pharmcat wrote:Color me unimpressed with this team, outside of LeBron
and AD they have no one who can create their own shot , are a bunch of has beens living off their names, and/or connection to klutch sports.

They should have split their 30 million in cap between Morris /lamb/delon wright to have a competent starting 5. But currently as constructed AD and LeBron have to carry this team in regular season and by the time playoffs come they will be burned out and bounced in first round when teams gameplan against those 2 and make the other scrubs try to beat them.



they looked unimpressive again tonite on their second road win.
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Post#138 » by nzahir » Mon Nov 4, 2019 4:40 am

cycl0nus wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:Color me unimpressed with this team, outside of LeBron
and AD they have no one who can create their own shot , are a bunch of has beens living off their names, and/or connection to klutch sports.

They should have split their 30 million in cap between Morris /lamb/delon wright to have a competent starting 5. But currently as constructed AD and LeBron have to carry this team in regular season and by the time playoffs come they will be burned out and bounced in first round when teams gameplan against those 2 and make the other scrubs try to beat them.



they looked unimpressive again tonite on their second road win.

Idk the is isn’t sarcasm or not, but offense was **** tonight

Iggy wouldn’t fix that. Rondo may not even fix that since he’s s non shooter.

Daniels and cook need to get their acts together or this team needs avcouple more reliable shooters
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Post#139 » by cycl0nus » Mon Nov 4, 2019 4:51 am

nzahir wrote:
cycl0nus wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:Color me unimpressed with this team, outside of LeBron
and AD they have no one who can create their own shot , are a bunch of has beens living off their names, and/or connection to klutch sports.

They should have split their 30 million in cap between Morris /lamb/delon wright to have a competent starting 5. But currently as constructed AD and LeBron have to carry this team in regular season and by the time playoffs come they will be burned out and bounced in first round when teams gameplan against those 2 and make the other scrubs try to beat them.



they looked unimpressive again tonite on their second road win.

Idk the is isn’t sarcasm or not, but offense was **** tonight

Iggy wouldn’t fix that. Rondo may not even fix that since he’s s non shooter.

Daniels and cook need to get their acts together or this team needs avcouple more reliable shooters

lol!!! so what, who cares if daniels and cook cant get it together.

u want an offensive show, stick with houston. theyre predicted to win the west.
give me a good defensive team any day, all day!!!!!!
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Post#140 » by nzahir » Mon Nov 4, 2019 5:18 am

cycl0nus wrote:
nzahir wrote:
cycl0nus wrote:

they looked unimpressive again tonite on their second road win.

Idk the is isn’t sarcasm or not, but offense was **** tonight

Iggy wouldn’t fix that. Rondo may not even fix that since he’s s non shooter.

Daniels and cook need to get their acts together or this team needs avcouple more reliable shooters

lol!!! so what, who cares if daniels and cook cant get it together.

u want an offensive show, stick with houston. theyre predicted to win the west.
give me a good defensive team any day, all day!!!!!!

Still need shooting to win it, cant be a bottom 5 3 point shooting team and then expect to beat a team like the clippers

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