Power Puff Kawhi is out again - Load Management Folks, Folk You!

thebigbird · Post #41 » by **thebigbird** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:39 pm

This is ridiculous. A 28 year old superstar in his prime has to sit out every fourth game so he doesn't fall apart? On top of only playing 30 mpg? Pitiful. The only reason it "worked" last year was because the Warriors were decimated by injuries. Kawhi is a part-time player at this point.

liamliam1234 · Post #42 » by **liamliam1234** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:42 pm

JohnnyNightrain wrote:I can’t be the only one amused by OP’s complete failure at sexism. Power Puff Girls were actually superheroes. Did you just remember a phrase with the word “girls” and think, “Yeah, that’ll show ‘em! I’ll compare him to a girl!”

+1’d in case you are right, but I think the easier explanation is that he meant to put “powder puff”.

Dr Spaceman · Post #43 » by **Dr Spaceman** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:43 pm

Optms wrote:
Dr Spaceman wrote:If it means he is healthy enough to make it through the playoffs I don’t care at all. I just don’t want any more playoff series decided by injury; I still haven’t recovered from Chris Paul’s hamstring tear.

This argument is so overused. Chris Paul is an injury prone player. Kawhi is also an injury prone player. Load management makes no difference to players with frail frames. They'll get injured again and using the minutes argument makes absolutely zero sense because they have a fraction of the mileage actual work horses have. Especially Kawhi. He literately has been missing game every year since he's been drafted.

Can you give me some data or studies that support this?

Hangtime84 · Post #44 » by **Hangtime84** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:45 pm

brutalitops wrote:"They get paid millions of dollars they should play every game!"
*Durant tears Achillies* Oh wow those Golden State Doctors made a bad gamble"
*Clippers hold back guy with known calf issues*
"ThEY SHOULD PLAY EVERY GAME!!""

Pretty much

r0drig0lac · Post #45 » by **r0drig0lac** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:53 pm

lmao who cares? he will be leading Clippers to 16w in the playoffs, I'm sure his fans don't care

dirkforpres · Post #46 » by **dirkforpres** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:56 pm

It’s ridiculous. It’s been 2 years since his last injury and we are only 7 games into the season.

Silver should do something about this

Sprewell4Three · Post #47 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 1:56 pm

When you’re a champion you can do things like this.

Jabroni Lames · Post #48 » by **Jabroni Lames** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:00 pm

Last year, I get it.... he was still recovering from a very serious injury. But this year, Kawhi said he was healthy. It came from his own mouth and Rivers echoed that. If he wasn't healthy, he shouldn't have said anything. This is simply DNP-Rest at a ridiculous time of the year.

DNP-Rest is exactly what the NBA was fining the Spurs and Popovich for. And that was for really old guys like Duncan and Manu. Clippers should be getting fined for this.

MoMan24 · Post #49 » by **MoMan24** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:03 pm

The NBA better keep quite when LBJ takes games off cause there is no one in NBA with a better case for load management than him. You also have no leg to stand on when this gets out of hand because your letting Kawahi do it. I just think the Clippers should be fined for missing the nationally televised games. At least work with the league and its partners while resting players. They should also fine teams that say something and are clearly lying to the public. For Kawahi to say he is fully healthy and this year is different, then rest him twice in the first 7 games is disgraceful. You should not be able to blatantly lie. I have a feeling the Clippers will force the league to have official rules and guidelines to load management and resting healthy players or update them. Just like the Clippers made the league upgrade tampering rules. Clippers be pushing limits for real.

Forte IV · Post #50 » by **Forte IV** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:09 pm

People need to realize something. The last 3 or so playoff series during the lob city era, were decided because of Clipper injuries. If the team had load managed Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, maybe they would have at the very least gone to the finals. The teams key players were injured when we needed them most, so I'm all for this. Yeah it's a bummer as a fan that he isn't playing, especially now that I'm living in Milwaukee lol (and will probably here it form coworkers). But the NBA is about the post season, not the regular one.

nikster · Post #51 » by **nikster** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:12 pm

Forte IV wrote:People need to realize something. The last 3 or so playoff series during the lob city era, were decided because of Clipper injuries. If the team had load managed Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, maybe they would have at the very least gone to the finals. The teams key players were injured when we needed them most, so I'm all for this. Yeah it's a bummer as a fan that he isn't playing, especially now that I'm living in Milwaukee lol (and will probably here it form coworkers). But the NBA is about the post season, not the regular one.

So why all this talk from Kawhi and the coach that there will be no load management?

I don't think there's be nearly as much outrage if they said from the start that he'd be load managing again

dhsilv2 · Post #52 » by **dhsilv2** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:15 pm

thebigbird wrote:This is ridiculous. A 28 year old superstar in his prime has to sit out every fourth game so he doesn't fall apart? On top of only playing 30 mpg? Pitiful. The only reason it "worked" last year was because the Warriors were decimated by injuries. Kawhi is a part-time player at this point.

He's got a serious life long progressively getting worse injury...what's so hard to understand?

Forte IV · Post #53 » by **Forte IV** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:16 pm

nikster wrote:
Forte IV wrote:People need to realize something. The last 3 or so playoff series during the lob city era, were decided because of Clipper injuries. If the team had load managed Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, maybe they would have at the very least gone to the finals. The teams key players were injured when we needed them most, so I'm all for this. Yeah it's a bummer as a fan that he isn't playing, especially now that I'm living in Milwaukee lol (and will probably here it form coworkers). But the NBA is about the post season, not the regular one.

So why all this talk from Kawhi and the coach that there will be no load management?

I don't think there's be nearly as much outrage if they said from the start that he'd be load managing again

Pretty sure the exact quote mentioned that it would be game to game basis. There was no actual quote where Doc or Kawhi said "we will not load manage". People just heard Kawhi say he was fully healthy and assumed that meant no load management. I'm sure he is fully healthy, and perhaps he'll play a b2b in the future, but we'll see.

nikster · Post #54 » by **nikster** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:16 pm

in 15 days dude has played 180 minutes...and thats coming off preseason.

jason bourne · Post #55 » by **jason bourne** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:18 pm

thebigbird wrote:This is ridiculous. A 28 year old superstar in his prime has to sit out every fourth game so he doesn't fall apart? On top of only playing 30 mpg? Pitiful. The only reason it "worked" last year was because the Warriors were decimated by injuries. Kawhi is a part-time player at this point.

It's chronic quad tendinitis, so he probably won't be playing in his 30s like LeBron. What would've been worse was if his knees were chronic.

dhsilv2 · Post #56 » by **dhsilv2** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:18 pm

nikster wrote:
Forte IV wrote:People need to realize something. The last 3 or so playoff series during the lob city era, were decided because of Clipper injuries. If the team had load managed Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, maybe they would have at the very least gone to the finals. The teams key players were injured when we needed them most, so I'm all for this. Yeah it's a bummer as a fan that he isn't playing, especially now that I'm living in Milwaukee lol (and will probably here it form coworkers). But the NBA is about the post season, not the regular one.

So why all this talk from Kawhi and the coach that there will be no load management?

I don't think there's be nearly as much outrage if they said from the start that he'd be load managing again

That was always the oddest part of all this, that they didn't go in expecting to load manage this. It is like leonard is still refusing to accept the reality that his injury is degenerative and simply won't go away. He's going to have to play through it and load manage the rest of his career no matter how much he'd like to believe otherwise.

Michael Lucky · Post #57 » by **Michael Lucky** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:18 pm

NBA will eventually step in and fine the clippers if this keeps happening on nationally televised games. Owners wont like it when it starts affecting their revenue.

Forte IV · Post #58 » by **Forte IV** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:20 pm

dhsilv2 wrote:
nikster wrote:
Forte IV wrote:People need to realize something. The last 3 or so playoff series during the lob city era, were decided because of Clipper injuries. If the team had load managed Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, maybe they would have at the very least gone to the finals. The teams key players were injured when we needed them most, so I'm all for this. Yeah it's a bummer as a fan that he isn't playing, especially now that I'm living in Milwaukee lol (and will probably here it form coworkers). But the NBA is about the post season, not the regular one.

So why all this talk from Kawhi and the coach that there will be no load management?

I don't think there's be nearly as much outrage if they said from the start that he'd be load managing again

That was always the oddest part of all this, that they didn't go in expecting to load manage this. It is like leonard is still refusing to accept the reality that his injury is degenerative and simply won't go away. He's going to have to play through it and load manage the rest of his career no matter how much he'd like to believe otherwise.

Can someone actually provide me evidence its a degenerative injury? There's never been any official report of this and people are just claiming it as fact. I'm genuinely curious.

dhsilv2 · Post #59 » by **dhsilv2** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:21 pm

Forte IV wrote:
dhsilv2 wrote:
nikster wrote:So why all this talk from Kawhi and the coach that there will be no load management?

I don't think there's be nearly as much outrage if they said from the start that he'd be load managing again

That was always the oddest part of all this, that they didn't go in expecting to load manage this. It is like leonard is still refusing to accept the reality that his injury is degenerative and simply won't go away. He's going to have to play through it and load manage the rest of his career no matter how much he'd like to believe otherwise.

Can someone actually provide me evidence its a degenerative injury? There's never been any official report of this and people are just claiming it as fact. I'm genuinely curious.

I'm sure one of the spurs fans who's tracked every second of leonard's life will have it

Greyhound · Post #60 » by **Greyhound** » Wed Nov 6, 2019 2:21 pm

dirkforpres wrote:It’s ridiculous. It’s been 2 years since his last injury and we are only 7 games into the season.

Silver should do something about this

Silver won’t do squat because the media is going to ignore it (as usual).

If it were LeBron, the media would be crying real tears (and Silver would be jumping over law books to schedule a press conference).

Completely ridiculous.

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