NBA Trade Thread

[cjbulls]

IMO DeRozan would actually be a downgrade from Zach. There's no turning-back for a low-energy 30yo athletic wing who makes a living in the mid-range iso and doesn't defend at a high level. Rather have the 25yo who shoots 3Ps on higher volume and has athleticism and 3y of $20m salary.

I get it -- I don't like Zach and most the world has come to terms that he is quite a bad team IQ player. Still, you have to recognize that he gets you 20 ppg shooting below his career average in 10-game sample size. I wouldn't go overboard and dump him for a SG who is shooting 0% from the 3P line this year. Kind of interesting that Pop has entirely taken that shot away from him, but it's not like he's got a good career average (28% from 3P).

I agree generally, but the point of the deal was that Demar is likely opting out this summer. You get a tryout to see if he fits and if he doesn’t, you just cleared Felicio and Zach’s salary. They still need more veterans. The Bulls are also desperately short of true wings yet loaded with guards.

His lack of 3s is a good thing for him. The Bulls are not in need of any more shooters. They have only one true non-3pt shooter that plays, WCJ.

I see no chance that SAS takes Felicio's salary.

Felicio is not the impediment. The salaries match really tightly so it’s a cap neutral move this year. After that Felicio has one year left at 7.5 million which can be stretched down to 2.5.

I question whether they’d want Zach. That’s the crux of the deal

[MrSparkle]

I agree generally, but the point of the deal was that Demar is likely opting out this summer. You get a tryout to see if he fits and if he doesn’t, you just cleared Felicio and Zach’s salary. They still need more veterans. The Bulls are also desperately short of true wings yet loaded with guards.

His lack of 3s is a good thing for him. The Bulls are not in need of any more shooters. They have only one true non-3pt shooter that plays, WCJ.

I see no chance that SAS takes Felicio's salary.

Felicio is not the impediment. The salaries match really tightly so it’s a cap neutral move this year. After that Felicio has one year left at 7.5 million which can be stretched down to 2.5.

I question whether they’d want Zach. That’s the crux of the deal

Zach at $40/2y gives them a hell lot more options than letting Derozan walk or trying to resign him for atleast $25m.

Also SAS has a pretty good history of not accepting any deadweight players unless they’re expiring. Dealing pretty much the best FO in the league; I don’t think you rob them unless player X demands out (as Kawhi did), and in many ways I don’t think Derozan was a bad return. They can easily turn him into some productive assets before February. I don’t think Felicio would be a part.

I don’t think they want Zach either, but they do need to get something for DD. They’re not FA players.

Chicago can offer Zach and filler (Shaq or Kornet). I think SAS takes that, but not Felicio. They’d take a TPE and Zach. Felicio is a deal-break imo.

Felicio and Valentine are $12m of deadweight. I don’t think the Bulls make good trade partners. We’d sell low for an aging expiring player.

[HomoSapien]

if Kings is still interested in Zach, would they take Zach for Fox? The Kings is self-destructing (this is a recurring thing with the Kings FO), Fox might want out soon. a Fox-Coby dynamic backcourt is interesting.

I would add anyone not named Lauri and WCJ. Still no way the Kings do it

I’d trade Lauri for Fox in a heartbeat.

[Ayman78]

What would it cost the Bulls to acquire Chris Paul? If it's cheap I think Paul would be the idea starting point to get the best out of Zach, Lauri, Wendell and Coby as well as Otto.

My guess the price tag would be a couple of draft picks and a young piece or two.

[sco]

What would it cost the Bulls to acquire Chris Paul? If it's cheap I think Paul would be the idea starting point to get the best out of Zach, Lauri, Wendell and Coby as well as Otto.

My guess the price tag would be a couple of draft picks and a young piece or two.

Who's giving up picks in this scenario? I might take one, but I sure ain't givin one up for Paul.

[Michael Jackson]

What would it cost the Bulls to acquire Chris Paul? If it's cheap I think Paul would be the idea starting point to get the best out of Zach, Lauri, Wendell and Coby as well as Otto.

My guess the price tag would be a couple of draft picks and a young piece or two.

Who's giving up picks in this scenario? I might take one, but I sure ain't givin one up for Paul.

OKC has picks to spare too. They just need to shed cash.

[MeloRoseNoah]

What would it cost the Bulls to acquire Chris Paul? If it's cheap I think Paul would be the idea starting point to get the best out of Zach, Lauri, Wendell and Coby as well as Otto.

My guess the price tag would be a couple of draft picks and a young piece or two.

Who's giving up picks in this scenario? I might take one, but I sure ain't givin one up for Paul.

Presti will kindly give GarPax CP3 for that playoff run and playoff cash in exchange for 2 unprotected first rounders + 2 pick swaps.

[Chicago-Bull-E]

Kind of a wild one but it solves a ton of problems.

Bulls trade: Lavine, Dunn, Felicio
Kings trade: Bogdan, Barnes, also gain right to swap 2020 draft picks, top 1 protected

Bulls get a long term solution at small forward, get a minor downgrade at sg, and while Dunn has been great, they solve the point guard depth.

Sato, Archi
White, Bogdan
Otto, Barnes
Lauri, Barnes
WCJ, Gafford

[RakimAbdulJabar]

Kind of a wild one but it solves a ton of problems.

Bulls trade: Lavine, Dunn, Felicio
Kings trade: Bogdan, Barnes, also gain right to swap 2020 draft picks, top 1 protected

Bulls get a long term solution at small forward, get a minor downgrade at sg, and while Dunn has been great, they solve the point guard depth.

Sato, Archi
White, Bogdan
Otto, Barnes
Lauri, Barnes
WCJ, Gafford

I like it in theory but would prefer if Bogdanovic was signed for longer, and would rather throw in Valentine than Dunn if possible

I doubt the Kings would be interested either way, however their front office and ownership is unpredictable so anything is possible

I'd also like to get Fox off of them and would be fine if the Bulls offered Markkanen and this years pick swap unprotected since I don't care about anyone from the draft

[Jiipee84]

Kind of a wild one but it solves a ton of problems.

Bulls trade: Lavine, Dunn, Felicio
Kings trade: Bogdan, Barnes, also gain right to swap 2020 draft picks, top 1 protected

Bulls get a long term solution at small forward, get a minor downgrade at sg, and while Dunn has been great, they solve the point guard depth.

Sato, Archi
White, Bogdan
Otto, Barnes
Lauri, Barnes
WCJ, Gafford

I like it in theory but would prefer if Bogdanovic was signed for longer, and would rather throw in Valentine than Dunn if possible

I doubt the Kings would be interested either way, however their front office and ownership is unpredictable so anything is possible

I'd also like to get Fox off of them and would be fine if the Bulls offered Markkanen and this years pick swap unprotected since I don't care about anyone from the draft

I saw two games of Serbia in FIBA world cup and Bodganovic was Serbia's best player he also made FIBA world cup allstar roster.
Overall Serbia was a disappointment they had all chances to win whole tournament but they didn't made even semifinals.

Also don't let Bogdanovic's good FIBA world cup performances fool yourself.
Even Satoransky was very good in FIBA world cup and look him now.

So i have to say NO for this trade.
Yes even i want Lavine out he and Markkanen can't play together but i'm not sure is Bogdanovic right guy to replace Lavine.

[Ayman78]

Anyone open to a Zach Lavine for Ben Simmons trade with a few more pieces?

[sco]

Anyone open to a Zach Lavine for Ben Simmons trade with a few more pieces?

I'd do that. He'd be a solid back court mate to White.

How about adding Richardson for Otto or Lauri into the deal?

[leo921]

I would love a Simmons trade but it is hard to do financially as Simmons is only making 8.1m this year then next year his max contract kicks in.

If his contract was max this year you can do something like Lavine/Sato and lotto protected pick for Simmons.

With him making 8.1m it makes it much harder to do a trade. The only one I could come up with that would be possible tht I know people are going to hate is:

Simmons/Smith for Lauri/White - Works on trade checker.

Sato/Archi
Lavine/Dunn
Otto/Hutchinson
Simmons/Young
Carter/Kornet

Simmons would play PG but with is size speed and shooting can be at PF, Sato would be a secondary playmaker and would need to focus on Shooting and attacking a scrambling defense

[RakimAbdulJabar]

Kind of a wild one but it solves a ton of problems.

Bulls trade: Lavine, Dunn, Felicio
Kings trade: Bogdan, Barnes, also gain right to swap 2020 draft picks, top 1 protected

Bulls get a long term solution at small forward, get a minor downgrade at sg, and while Dunn has been great, they solve the point guard depth.

Sato, Archi
White, Bogdan
Otto, Barnes
Lauri, Barnes
WCJ, Gafford

I like it in theory but would prefer if Bogdanovic was signed for longer, and would rather throw in Valentine than Dunn if possible

I doubt the Kings would be interested either way, however their front office and ownership is unpredictable so anything is possible

I'd also like to get Fox off of them and would be fine if the Bulls offered Markkanen and this years pick swap unprotected since I don't care about anyone from the draft

I saw two games of Serbia in FIBA world cup and Bodganovic was Serbia's best player he also made FIBA world cup allstar roster.
Overall Serbia was a disappointment they had all chances to win whole tournament but they didn't made even semifinals.

Also don't let Bogdanovic's good FIBA world cup performances fool yourself.
Even Satoransky was very good in FIBA world cup and look him now.

So i have to say NO for this trade.
Yes even i want Lavine out he and Markkanen can't play together but i'm not sure is Bogdanovic right guy to replace Lavine.

1. I didn't watch him in the world cup, so I'm not being fooled by anything, I like him as a player based on what I've seen at the NBA level and he's allegedly unhappy in Sacramento. Not saying he's a #1 option but a piece I'd like on this team

I don't even want LaVine out, I don't care either way, but I was commenting on the original proposal

2. I've never liked Satoransky, it got me attacked on here when the Bulls signed him and I said I'd rather give Dunn the minutes

[TheGOATRises007]

Anyone open to a Zach Lavine for Ben Simmons trade with a few more pieces?

The Sixers aren't trading Ben Simmons.

They'd hang up the phone.

[TheGOATRises007]

Time to start looking into trades.

Team is fast approaching blow it up territory.

[WYO]

Time to start looking into trades.

Team is fast approaching blow it up territory.

The problem is the team would be selling low on every player on the roster. They will be better served letting these guys try to up their value before selling. Guys like Zach and Lauri will get hot at some point this year. Hopefully it's before the deadline and the Bulls can get some value out of these guys.

[HomoSapien]

Andre Drummond is a guy I'd like to pursue. I know he's not exactly what we need given Carter's solid play, but the guy is averaging 20 points, 17 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 bpg, 1.6 spg. He's just an incredible stat stuffer. I'd trade Zach and Carter for him and pray to god that Lauri could figure things out and become a good spacer. Theoretically, you'd be surrounding him with Lauri, Porter, and Coby ... three guys that can shoot.

[Ayman78]

Anyone open to a Zach Lavine for Ben Simmons trade with a few more pieces?

The Sixers aren't trading Ben Simmons.

They'd hang up the phone.

The weakness of their team is the lack of a player who can get his own shot. Sure they could pursue D'Angelo Russell, Bradley Beal or maybe Damian Lillard, but that would cost the 76ers additional assets. Simmons maybe a superstar, but he's not going to reach his full potential with their current roster and their roster is locked in for the next 3 years at a minimum.

[LateNight]

Andre Drummond is a guy I'd like to pursue. I know he's not exactly what we need given Carter's solid play, but the guy is averaging 20 points, 17 rebounds, 3 assists, 2 bpg, 1.6 spg. He's just an incredible stat stuffer. I'd trade Zach and Carter for him and pray to god that Lauri could figure things out and become a good spacer. Theoretically, you'd be surrounding him with Lauri, Porter, and Coby ... three guys that can shoot.

No way - I’d rather have WCJ than Lauri and I don’t think it’s enough of an upgrade to make It worth that package.

I understand the limits of Zach’s game, but right now two of our biggest weaknesses are Lauri and Otto so trading to build around them is a tough sell