OT Bears 2019/20 season and beyond

[HoopsterJones]

Pace hasn’t done well with his First round picks:

Kevin White: Bust
Leonard Floyd: Meh
Mitchell Trubisky: Bust
Roquan Smith: Good rookie season, this year meh

Second round picks haven’t been all too great either.

Shaheen: Bust
Daniels: Meh
Miller: Meh
Goldman: Good
Whitehair: Good

The killer is the trades to move up in the 1st & 2nd and giving up other assets.

With Miller I'm not sure if he's just meh or if a better QB would have him looking better. The AB/Steve Smith comparison's look bad now for sure.

Pace has had some gems late in the draft, but like you stated he's whiffed far too much in the first two rounds.

Fun fact. Did you know that the one of the two draft picks given up (3rd round) for the trade up for one spot to draft Mitch was then traded by the Niners to the Saints, and guess who they drafted? Alvin Kamara. Ouch.

[ATRAIN53]

The defense is still pretty good and playing hard.
I feel bad for them, you can tell they know the offense is incompetent.

We should have won that game

Philip Rivers addressed his status for 2020 on Saturday, saying he will "regroup" after the season before determining whether he will continue playing, according to ESPN's Eric D. Williams.

Rivers ranks third in passing yards among active quarterbacks. Only Tom Brady and Drew Brees have thrown more passing touchdowns.

Rivers and Newton will be avail.

grab one, draft one of those SEC QB's like Jake Fromm State Farm, Burrow or even a damaged Tua and let them watch and learn.

The Kahli Mack clock is ticking. 2 more elite seasons from him IF were lucky......

[Ccwatercraft]

Is it too late for a bears/bulls player swap of some kind?
Its not like we're going to make either team worse.

[Ccwatercraft]

Pace hasn’t done well with his First round picks:

Kevin White: Bust
Leonard Floyd: Meh
Mitchell Trubisky: Bust
Roquan Smith: Good rookie season, this year meh

Second round picks haven’t been all too great either.

Shaheen: Bust
Daniels: Meh
Miller: Meh
Goldman: Good
Whitehair: Good

The killer is the trades to move up in the 1st & 2nd and giving up other assets.

With Miller I'm not sure if he's just meh or if a better QB would have him looking better. The AB/Steve Smith comparison's look bad now for sure.

Pace has had some gems late in the draft, but like you stated he's whiffed far too much in the first two rounds.

Fun fact. Did you know that the one of the two draft picks given up (3rd round) for the trade up for one spot to draft Mitch was then traded by the Niners to the Saints, and guess who they drafted? Alvin Kamara. Ouch.

oh jesus, that stings.

[RedBulls23]

Pace hasn’t done well with his First round picks:

Kevin White: Bust
Leonard Floyd: Meh
Mitchell Trubisky: Bust
Roquan Smith: Good rookie season, this year meh

Second round picks haven’t been all too great either.

Shaheen: Bust
Daniels: Meh
Miller: Meh
Goldman: Good
Whitehair: Good

The killer is the trades to move up in the 1st & 2nd and giving up other assets.

With Miller I'm not sure if he's just meh or if a better QB would have him looking better. The AB/Steve Smith comparison's look bad now for sure.

Pace has had some gems late in the draft, but like you stated he's whiffed far too much in the first two rounds.

Fun fact. Did you know that the one of the two draft picks given up (3rd round) for the trade up for one spot to draft Mitch was then traded by the Niners to the Saints, and guess who they drafted? Alvin Kamara. Ouch.

Yeah, Kamara is a big name that comes up when talking about that Mitch trade.

[sogood]

The defense is still pretty good and playing hard.
I feel bad for them, you can tell they know the offense is incompetent.

We should have won that game

Philip Rivers addressed his status for 2020 on Saturday, saying he will "regroup" after the season before determining whether he will continue playing, according to ESPN's Eric D. Williams.

Rivers ranks third in passing yards among active quarterbacks. Only Tom Brady and Drew Brees have thrown more passing touchdowns.

Rivers and Newton will be avail.

grab one, draft one of those SEC QB's like Jake Fromm State Farm, Burrow or even a damaged Tua and let them watch and learn.

The Kahli Mack clock is ticking. 2 more elite seasons from him IF were lucky......

Rivers definitely isn’t, it’s LA or bust for him. He’s drives from San Diego to LA every day because he doesn’t want to move his family.

[RedBulls23]

Nagy has been questionable at times, but man Mitch just isn't good.

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[MeloRoseNoah]

Nagy has been questionable at times, but man Mitch just isn't good.

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Yup. That pass to Anthony Miller resulting in the interception is on him as well.

Miller cuts to the inside expecting an inside pass and Trubisky pass was off target to the outside resulting in Anthony Miller changing his momentum and one hand tip the pass.

What the hell were the scouts smoking when they said that this guy is accurate, poise, and intelligent?

It must be with the white boy lenses on.

[Bullflip]

Trubisky is just stupid. Low IQ individual. On top of that, he goes crying like a bitch on the sideline. Good riddance and should be out of the NFL. If he starts next game, he should be booed until he cries again

[Betta Bulleavit]

Nagy has been questionable at times, but man Mitch just isn't good.

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What that clip doesn’t show is that there was a safety coming up that would have (in theory) stopped Bronekker too. Almost all of the Rams coverage on that play was on the left side but we can’t see that from our angle of that clip.

The throw was off but that play wasn’t going anywhere regardless. My hope is that we will move on from Mitch so that we can ultimately find out that Nagy is just as big of a problem as Mitch. Maybe even bigger.

[Stratmaster]

Pat Mahomes 5000 yds passing with 41 TDs on his last season
Trubusty 3,700 yds passing with 30 TDs on his last season

Thanks for playing.

you're not playing right. of course mahomes threw for more yards. he threw it more! and you said there were no objective reasons for trubisky to be chosen first. i freaking gave some to you. susan gave you some more. accept that you were very wrong

When the hell does combine results matter for QBs? I guess Tom Brady should be undrafted based on those combine #s. LOL

he almost DID go undrafted ROFLCOPTER OMG RIP CIA

Mahomes arm strength >>>>>>>>>>> Trubusky noodle arm

guess who else had a cannon? ryan leaf

use YOUR noodl

Pat Mahomes threws more yds and TDs bc he was the offense and a TD machine, just like in the NFL. Your objective measurements are bs and you know it.

The only objective measurements in a QB are yds passing, TDs, and arm strengths. The other intangibles matter too like football intelligence, in which Pat Mahomes appeared to have in spades over Trubusty. Watch the IQ interview of Trubisky vs Mahomes.

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Trubisky appeared like a dumb jock who couldn't understand football language and offensive sets. Mahomes rocked his interview. The difference was very obvious. We only ranked Trubisky higher than Mahomes bc Trubisky fits the Brees type better, aka his white skin and clean cut soldier boy franchise face.

Well. Ok then. Now I get more of your horrible takes on the Bulls. This was enlightening.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Trubisky is just stupid. Low IQ individual. On top of that, he goes crying like a bitch on the sideline. Good riddance and should be out of the NFL. If he starts next game, he should be booed until he cries again

When did he “cry like a bitch” on the sideline? You mean the clip that someone posted last night that bared no proof to that effect?

[Betta Bulleavit]

Nagy has been questionable at times, but man Mitch just isn't good.

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Yup. That pass to Anthony Miller resulting in the interception is on him as well.

Miller cuts to the inside expecting an inside pass and Trubisky pass was off target to the outside resulting in Anthony Miller changing his momentum and one hand tip the pass.

What the hell were the scouts smoking when they said that this guy is accurate, poise, and intelligent?

It must be with the white boy lenses on.

What exactly is it that captivates you so much about this black versus white argument? There have been great white QBs and there have been bad ones. There have been some great black QBs and there have also been bad ones. What does race have to do with it?

[Bullflip]

Trubisky is just stupid. Low IQ individual. On top of that, he goes crying like a bitch on the sideline. Good riddance and should be out of the NFL. If he starts next game, he should be booed until he cries again

When did he “cry like a bitch” on the sideline? You mean the clip that someone posted last night that bared no proof to that effect?

Ok fine didn't cry. He's just a stupid QB. This is why Nagy had to dumb down his playbook for this dummy.

[Stratmaster]

Trubisky is bad. He is not going to be the franchise QB. But what is sad is that like with a lot of the post game commentary on the Bulls we are talking about 1 piece of ther problem as if it is all of the problem.

Trubisky didn't lose the game yesterday. Receivers dropped passes. The OL was horrible, except in play action. 2 stupid 4th down calls. 2 missed field goals and an unwillingness to try to kick another because we still have a kicker who sucks. A special teams player who gets so excited about making a tackle he takes his helmet off to celebrate; and who keeps trying to return balls from 8 yards deep in the end zone. Fuller drops another game changing interception (that one's a little harsh because he prs himself in position and catches a bunch of them...but still). A defensive line who more and more seems to have 1 stretch where they just can't stop rushers.

But all everyone wants to talk about is Mitch.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Trubisky is just stupid. Low IQ individual. On top of that, he goes crying like a bitch on the sideline. Good riddance and should be out of the NFL. If he starts next game, he should be booed until he cries again

When did he “cry like a bitch” on the sideline? You mean the clip that someone posted last night that bared no proof to that effect?

Ok fine didn't cry. He's just a stupid QB. This is why Nagy had to dumb down his playbook for this dummy.

Just because a guy is a disappointment or doesn’t live up to expectations that he didn’t exactly bring upon himself doesn’t make him stupid. I’m as disappointed as the next person but all of the emotional name calling and reactions just feels unnecessary to me. Especially in the grand scheme of things when it’s clear that Mitch isn’t the best only problem. Nagys questionable play calling pre-dates Mitch and Nagys time with the Bears.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Trubisky is bad. He is not going to be the franchise QB. But what is sad u.s that like with a lot of the pist game commentary on the Bulls we are talking about 1 piece of ther problem as if it is all of the problem.

Trubisky didn't lose the game yesterday. Receivers dropped passes. The OL was horrible, except in play action. 2 stupid 4th down calls. 2 missed field goals and an unwillingness to try to kick another because we still have a kicker who sucks. A special teams player who gets so excited about making a tackle he takes his helmet off to celebrate; and who keeps trying to return balls from 8 yards deep in the end zone. Fuller drops another game changing interception (that one's a little harsh because he prs himself in position and catches a bunch of them...but still). A defensive line who more and more seems to have 1 stretch where they just can't stop rushers.

But all everyone wants to talk about is Mitch.

Thank You!!! This is ALL that I am trying to say. Want to move on from Mitch?? Fine. Just don’t be surprised when we continue to have many of the same issues.

[Stratmaster]

Trubisky is bad. He is not going to be the franchise QB. But what is sad is that like with a lot of the post game commentary on the Bulls we are talking about 1 piece of the problem as if it is all of the problem.

Trubisky didn't lose the game yesterday. Receivers dropped passes. The OL was horrible, except in play action. 2 stupid 4th down calls. 2 missed field goals and an unwillingness to try to kick another because we still have a kicker who sucks. A special teams player who gets so excited about making a tackle he takes his helmet off to celebrate; and who keeps trying to return balls from 8 yards deep in the end zone. Fuller drops another game changing interception (that one's a little harsh because he prs himself in position and catches a bunch of them...but still). A defensive line who more and more seems to have 1 stretch where they just can't stop rushers.

But all everyone wants to talk about is Mitch.

[MeloRoseNoah]

Nagy has been questionable at times, but man Mitch just isn't good.

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What that clip doesn’t show is that there was a safety coming up that would have (in theory) stopped Bronekker too. Almost all of the Rams coverage on that play was on the left side but we can’t see that from our angle of that clip.

The throw was off but that play wasn’t going anywhere regardless. My hope is that we will move on from Mitch so that we can ultimately find out that Nagy is just as big of a problem as Mitch. Maybe even bigger.

No the TE was opened. If Trubisky has a brain, he would look to the right and show a bullet to his TE on the left resulting in massive YAC and a first down.

These are simple stuff that a NFL Qb with a brain could do.

[Betta Bulleavit]

Nagy has been questionable at times, but man Mitch just isn't good.

Read on Twitter

What that clip doesn’t show is that there was a safety coming up that would have (in theory) stopped Bronekker too. Almost all of the Rams coverage on that play was on the left side but we can’t see that from our angle of that clip.

The throw was off but that play wasn’t going anywhere regardless. My hope is that we will move on from Mitch so that we can ultimately find out that Nagy is just as big of a problem as Mitch. Maybe even bigger.

No the TE was opened. If Trubisky has a brain, he would look to the right and show a bullet to his TE on the left resulting in massive YAC and a first down.

These are simple stuff that a NFL Qb with a brain could do.

That clip shows a moment where the TE was open. That doesn’t mean that he would have been able to make a play. I watched that play on tv last night and I’m telling you that a safety was going to come up and make that play. Mitch has a choice. Go to the receiver that he knew a safety was coming up to check ((and that receiver isn’t the best mover) or go to the receiver that had a LB on him that is known to make moves in the open field. He went with option B. Which was fine. The problem is that he didn’t make a good throw. That part can’t be argued.