PG: Zach FTW!!

[RastaBull]

Coby White is going to have an up and down season. But his highs so far are showing real dynamicism. And he's puts in very consistent effort on defensive end, his development and maturity on that end is surprising and only makes me feel more confident we'll see a developed product sooner rather than later.

Lavine can't do this enough to make Bulls a .500 team. Lavine cannot be a solo primary scorer for a playoff team. But if White can develop into the type of dynamic scorer he's showing glimpses of, then the two of them could really mess up defenses. They could be a different version (probably lesser) of how Portland relied on Dame/McCullom for offensive firepower last couple years. That's a big big piece of the puzzle for the offense if Lavine can have another dynamic scoring guard on the team.

Other pieces of the puzzle remain unanswered and big problems (frontcourt? Wendell hold his own as center? Lauri fallen off a cliff? defense in frontcourt?)

[Stratmaster]

Sabine looks stoned out of his mind tonight

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[BigUps]

I will say this though, Zach is only 24 years old. While he had an awesome game today, you can't expect him to hit 13 three point shots a night. My position has slowly evolved on him over the past few days but he has to add more to his game and they have to use him in a better role than being the primary ball handler. Today was a great example, he took most of his shots within the flow of the offense. He wasn't selfish or padding his own stats. So that is one takeaway from this game.

Also in the second half he started cutting to the basket which is a very efficent way to score. If he can do that more, then that would help his game tremendously.

Zach's performance is really casting a shadow on how good Coby's night was too. I think Zach really benefited from having another scorer next to him. He thrived off of it so much that you could see him looking at Coby and telling him its going to be him and Coby down the stretch. Coby can also shoot the 3, so you can't slack off of him.

Its interesting, but I think Zach may need that more often. He may play a lot better if he has a Robin to his Batman.

[johnnyvann840]

OK, I'm going to let you all enjoy this. I'll go be miserable by myself. Sorry, if this is how this team plays, we are going to win less than 30 games this season. We might win one out of four or five when Lavine is on fire. But overall, it's a crappy way to win a game. Nobody is hitting 13 three pointers on a regular basis.

But, go ahead be happy and have fun. Bulls fans deserve this for a night. Even if it's just fools gold.

If your issue is with Zach this game, then can't agree.

However, if your issue is with Boylen and his decision making with lineups, rotations, and awful defensive scheme then you're right on the money.

We'll continue to struggle to win games, because fact is Boylen isn't setting up these guys in the best capacity to win. Superstars tend to hide bad coaching, and Zach played like a superstar tonight and did just that.

So true to the point. I wish I can give you 100+ and 1s.

I don't have any issue with Zach this game. He was unreal. UNREAL. MIRACLE. yeah, Boylen sucks ass.

I was just trying to say.... don't expect to win many games like that. It's a once in a season kind of win.

[Boardwalker]

One of the most amazing finishes I've ever seen!

With 45 seconds left, I was about to shut the game off. No way did I think the Bulls had a chance and i didn't want to see them finish the loss. However, throughout the game, my connection had been buffering which caused me to be a few minutes behind the actual live gameplay.

So just seconds before I hit the power on my TV, a score update came through on my phone saying that the Bulls had won. I looked at the score and time left on the TV and then back at my phone and couldn't believe it. I figured my app was wrong somehow. Then I checked twitter and sure enough, the impossible had happened. The next few minutes of watching the game was so much fun.

[Infinite Llamas]

Guess I picked the right game to watch tonight lol

LaVine has too much talent to not figure it out but I don't think he's ever had the right coach to help him. Anybody saying to trade LaVine before canning the coach has to be kidding. Find a coach to get Lauri's head on straight. Build around the White/LaVine backcourt. There's a lot of talent here and it would be a shame to watch it all get pissed away because of management incompetence.

[Jiipee84]

What Lauri is to get congratulate Lavine and other players for a win after the game.
Lauri should not have been even close any player or team to get congratulate first.

And why? because he didn't do nothing tonight to help win this game.
Also he mostly sabotaged his team always when he was on the court.

[dice]

Also in the second half he started cutting to the basket which is a very efficent way to score. If he can do that more, then that would help his game tremendously.

probably so. but tonight he was only 4/11 inside the arc and attempted only 2 FT. he was actually terrible aside from his unreal 3 pt shooting

[weneeda2guard]

Coby White is going to have an up and down season. But his highs so far are showing real dynamicism. And he's puts in very consistent effort on defensive end, his development and maturity on that end is surprising and only makes me feel more confident we'll see a developed product sooner rather than later.

Lavine can't do this enough to make Bulls a .500 team. Lavine cannot be a solo primary scorer for a playoff team. But if White can develop into the type of dynamic scorer he's showing glimpses of, then the two of them could really mess up defenses. They could be a different version (probably lesser) of how Portland relied on Dame/McCullom for offensive firepower last couple years. That's a big big piece of the puzzle for the offense if Lavine can have another dynamic scoring guard on the team.

Other pieces of the puzzle remain unanswered and big problems (frontcourt? Wendell hold his own as center? Lauri fallen off a cliff? defense in frontcourt?)

Turning this into the zach and coby show might be the best way to go. Boylen needs to increase both of their minutes to around 35 minutes a game. And make sure he puts a line up on the floor to close games like they did tonight. I think the rotation seriously needs shortening. No more 10-11 man rotations cut it down to 8 or 9.

[RastaBull]

I will say this though, Zach is only 24 years old. While he had an awesome game today, you can't expect him to hit 13 three point shots a night. My position has slowly evolved on him over the past few days but he has to add more to his game and they have to use him in a better role than being the primary ball handler. Today was a great example, he took most of his shots within the flow of the offense. He wasn't selfish or padding his own stats. So that is one takeaway from this game.

Also in the second half he started cutting to the basket which is a very efficent way to score. If he can do that more, then that would help his game tremendously.

Totally agree.

Would add (not taking away from points you made), he needs better play from guys around him. And he needs to allow them time and space to play better. So he can't play hero ball, but he also needs competent guys around him. Tonight, the Bulls offense was setting him up beautifully at times (that no-look Wendells pass to the corner was a thing of beauty). Having efficiency and electric scoring like White tonight makes a big difference for Lavine too.

I've only seen some highlights from the night, but it looks like he was balancing his game with off-the-ball work. You mentioned the cutting, but also just moving off ball and getting into perfect position for outlet passes or the 3rd pass around perimeter.

[Alcatraz17]

I am sure it was probably mentioned before in this thread...or elsewhere...but I was thinking earlier today before the game how I would like to see Zach not just try and get going with going to basket and easier mid-range shots, but with trying to patiently wait for set-3 attempts rather than fadeaway, off the dribble attempts. While def not all of the 13....it def seemed like he hit multiple set 3's tonight. Obviously a set three requires being open and someone finding you...I just wonder if a detail like that is considered by Zach or any other player or coach, bulls or elsewhere.

[Stratmaster]

Whatever you think of Zach's game, it was just so good to see the young man laughing and smiling.

Because he is the only real talent on the team (ok... WCJ and Coby are looking at me) all eyes, and all the pressure, are on him. He takes all the blame when they lose, and he has looked miserable having to defend himself and the team every game.

He was actually laughing in the interview. I hope he lets all that pressure go now and just uses his talent and plays basketball going forward.

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[FriedRise]

He actually hit another one right after they called him for traveling (a walk I think). It was a super long 3 close to the Hornets logo. Could’ve been tied for 1st with Klay if that had counted.

[Stratmaster]

He actually hit another one right after they called him for traveling (a walk I think). It was a super long 3 close to the Hornets logo. Could’ve been tied for 1st with Klay if that had counted.

I forgot about that. Yep... he just couldn't miss.

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[RastaBull]

Coby White is going to have an up and down season. But his highs so far are showing real dynamicism. And he's puts in very consistent effort on defensive end, his development and maturity on that end is surprising and only makes me feel more confident we'll see a developed product sooner rather than later.

Lavine can't do this enough to make Bulls a .500 team. Lavine cannot be a solo primary scorer for a playoff team. But if White can develop into the type of dynamic scorer he's showing glimpses of, then the two of them could really mess up defenses. They could be a different version (probably lesser) of how Portland relied on Dame/McCullom for offensive firepower last couple years. That's a big big piece of the puzzle for the offense if Lavine can have another dynamic scoring guard on the team.

Other pieces of the puzzle remain unanswered and big problems (frontcourt? Wendell hold his own as center? Lauri fallen off a cliff? defense in frontcourt?)

Turning this into the zach and coby show might be the best way to go. Boylen needs to increase both of their minutes to around 35 minutes a game. And make sure he puts a line up on the floor to close games like they did tonight. I think the rotation seriously needs shortening. No more 10-11 man rotations cut it down to 8 or 9.

Last game I said Coby shouldn't be on the closing lineup (last 4ish minutes) at this point in his rookie season because he is too inconsistent with shot and decision making.

I still believe we will see that a lot this rookie season if he plays those minutes. BUT, if Lavine plays with Coby those final minutes and Lavine shows confidence in young Coby 1) it's good for his individual development; and 2) even if he's up and down MAYBE his presence regardless can be beneficial to Lavine in given a second option on perimeter and more athleticism on court.

What would you make your current 9 man rotation? I'd take Lauri out of service for a while, and not really look to replace him in lineup. Move Young to starting PF? It would hurt depth in front court a lot. (Wish OPJ was here, I would put him at 4 to start game and even when healthy bring Lauri from bench to bumslay for a while). I think Gafford is necessary for 10-15 mpg to bring size and strength on interior.

I don't love Archie, but I also love Archie. I just wish Sato could play the way Archie does hustle-wise (thereby feel better treating Archie as 3rd PG with DNPs when rest of team is healthy). I do think IF Sato can assert himself more as season goes on we may see less of Archie. I also like Dunn's role for 20-24 mpg; I'm of what I think is a minority in that if having to chose minutes between Archie and Dunn I'd chose Dunn for those second unit Guard minutes (either way, I don't think optimally both of them are getting 20+mpg).

[CBS7]

He actually hit another one right after they called him for traveling (a walk I think). It was a super long 3 close to the Hornets logo. Could’ve been tied for 1st with Klay if that had counted.

The entire game is likely different in that scenario however. Perhaps closer at the end and would not require all those crazy 3-point attempts.

[Repeat 3-peat]

Zach has so much talent. I just wish he could become more consistent.

[RastaBull]

Whatever you think of Zach's game, it was just so good to see the young man laughing and smiling.

Because he is the only real talent on the team (ok... WCJ and Coby are looking at me) all eyes, and all the pressure, are on him. He takes all the blame when they lose, and he has looked miserable having to defend himself and the team every game.

He was actually laughing in the interview. I hope he lets all that pressure go now and just uses his talent and plays basketball going forward.

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Amen. As a fan, when these young men get hyped up and truly enjoy the game it makes me feel better than anything else from the game.

[CBS7]

The Bulls scored 16 points in the final 55 seconds. Kind of insane.