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Post#101 » by marthafokker » Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:06 pm

Phase 3 wrote:Listened to Greg Papa today on the radio. He said that he’s heard the Warriors are not all that high on Wiseman. Just passing it along fwiw.


Dang. GSW really hates centers. Even Kerr bench our best center besides Bogut.... Forcing him to play for LeBron.

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Post#102 » by azwfan » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:13 am

Phase 3 wrote:Listened to Greg Papa today on the radio. He said that he’s heard the Warriors are not all that high on Wiseman. Just passing it along fwiw.

Gdmnit, Curry is coming back early.
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Post#103 » by Mylie10 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 2:44 am

Greg has often been wrong on items like this. Could be misdirection too. Who knows.
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Post#104 » by wco81 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 3:10 am

Maybe attendance is declining too much.

Well he needs to get in another 200 3-pointer season.
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Post#105 » by Onus » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:06 pm

Anthony Edwards should be the no 1 pick
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Post#106 » by Phase 3 » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:56 pm

Onus wrote:Anthony Edwards should be the no 1 pick

I’m definitely intrigued by him. He’s got an NBA body and athleticism at 18.

In fairness, I haven’t been able to watch him much(other than YouTube highlights)....but two concerns I have from my limited viewing is his:

1) Lack of an explosive first step. He’s a great athlete for his age but I don’t see an amazing first step off the dribble. This is not a deal breaker IF* he’s a high level shooter. But...

2) His shot. From the limited highlights I saw, his shot form isn’t all that great and his release is a little slow.

But again, these criticisms are based off my extremely limited looks at his game.

Wouldn’t be shocked at all if he went 1 or 2 though. There’s enough there for teams to fall in love with his potential.

Wiseman is more of a sure bet. He has the higher floor imo. But Edwards looks like the type of guy with a higher ceiling.
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Post#107 » by Quazza » Mon Nov 25, 2019 10:33 am

with the Hornets GM in the stands, Lamelo just had a 30 point triple double
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Post#108 » by Quazza » Mon Nov 25, 2019 1:14 pm

Quazza wrote:with the Hornets GM in the stands, Lamelo just had a 30 point triple double



highlights for anyone that cares

https://www.facebook.com/TheNBL/videos/425646958346529/

Hate the kid all you like, but he's the youngest player to put up a triple double in the history of the league. Impressive
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Post#109 » by Mylie10 » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:49 pm

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Quazza wrote:with the Hornets GM in the stands, Lamelo just had a 30 point triple double



highlights for anyone that cares

https://www.facebook.com/TheNBL/videos/425646958346529/

Hate the kid all you like, but he's the youngest player to put up a triple double in the history of the league. Impressive


The kid is a talented passer. And he can score for sure. But he's the typical volume scorer. Poor shooting percentages.

And, please don't anyone talk about him being 6'7' or even 6'8". The kid is lucky if he's 6'5".

He's so skinny as well. Gonna take him a few years to even fill out.

I would be extremely pissed if we took him. I need dogs, I don't need no kitty cats.
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Post#110 » by BongBoyKlay » Mon Nov 25, 2019 11:02 pm

Phase 3 wrote:Listened to Greg Papa today on the radio. He said that he’s heard the Warriors are not all that high on Wiseman. Just passing it along fwiw.

If this is true what are the chances the Warriors try to trade down from that top spot? Wiseman seems like the only real game-changing big man that would be worthy of a top three pick, and it's looking like most of the other game-changing players are guards and don't fit with the current Warriors roster that well. Advija is the one wing often connected to the Warriors, but I am not really sold on his fit with the Warriors due to his defense and shaky outside shooting.

It all depends on how the lottery order turns out, but would it be worth trading down and getting a player that would have a greater impact on our team now? A team like the Pelicans or Hawks could fall just outside of the top 3 or 5 picks and may want to package their pick along with other assets to move up into the top three. Would this be a better option for the Warriors or should they just go the best player available route and worry about the fit later?
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Post#111 » by wco81 » Tue Nov 26, 2019 12:28 am

It's in the Warriors interest to have all these prospects hyped up like crazy.

Unfortunately, none of them will get the hype and coverage that Zion got last year.

BTW, Warriors need to hire some more scouts and proven personnel people for helping to make this pick.

It's going to be the most important pick in almost a decade, so you can't rely just on Myers and the Lacob kid. The Warriors are not the Sacramento Kings, they can't screw up this pick.
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Post#112 » by shazam_guy » Tue Nov 26, 2019 8:41 am

Trade down (maybe not that far if he keeps showing big), get Obi Toppin. Going to be somebody's perfect small-ball 5, looks like he can shoot the three, too.
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Post#113 » by KevinMcreynolds » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:32 am

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Post#114 » by wco81 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 12:56 am

Wow he was launching them. But his team got blown out or maybe they cut the margin at the end?

Dare we dream a bigger, longer, more athletic Curry with the pull up ability from distance?
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Post#115 » by shazam_guy » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:04 am

I don't really think we need another 2 guard. Just my opinion, but unless Klay isn't going to come back to his full abilities, and we also have traded Russell, we will have basically a ton of shooting guards and not much in the way of inside players. (Steph can also play 2 guard in a small-ball lineup.)

It's not just about filling up the basket, as our championships have shown. It's about defense and ball-control, too, especially in the playoffs. We've GOT shooters (again assuming everyone comes back.) We lack big power-defense wings and a nasty inside presence, except for Draymond. I don't see Edwards as a great fit for our particular needs.
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Post#116 » by wco81 » Wed Nov 27, 2019 1:54 am

Sure, that's a key concern, that he has the length and athleticism to defend 1-3. He doesn't have to be another Igudala or Livingston in his prime, just be way better than the current 2 and 3s on the team.
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Post#117 » by Onus » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:34 pm

The problem with this draft is that there is no top prospect that really fills our needs. The best course of action is to trade the pick. I'm hoping the Sixers falter and they realize they need to trade Simmons or Embiid and we can package Dlo, the top pick plus whatever else for Simmons or even better Giannis.
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Post#118 » by BballIntellect » Wed Nov 27, 2019 4:57 pm

Onus wrote:The problem with this draft is that there is no top prospect that really fills our needs. The best course of action is to trade the pick. I'm hoping the Sixers falter and they realize they need to trade Simmons or Embiid and we can package Dlo, the top pick plus whatever else for Simmons or even better Giannis.


Why would we need Simmons when we already have Draymond who's another non shooting threat?!? Not to mention the center of the team would probably be Looney or WCS. That makes for 3 non shooting threats in the same lineup. This is about to be 2020. Not 2000.

There's two main reasons why the Raptors beat us in the playoffs : We couldn't stop their pick and roll to save our lives and we only had two consistent outside shooters (the two best ever but still the only ones on the team).

This is why the Raptors could run a box and one successfully on us. The Raptors didn't fear anybody on the team but Steph to shoot the ball and they were right in their approach. They had at least four capable shooters on the floor at all times. We only had two and then no one but Steph once Klay went down. That makes a huge difference.
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Post#119 » by BballIntellect » Wed Nov 27, 2019 5:31 pm

Onus wrote:The problem with this draft is that there is no top prospect that really fills our needs. The best course of action is to trade the pick. I'm hoping the Sixers falter and they realize they need to trade Simmons or Embiid and we can package Dlo, the top pick plus whatever else for Simmons or even better Giannis.


I used to think the same thing and tried to look at prospects that would fill our needs rather than the most talented ones but I changed my mind. You don't do that if you get a Top 5 pick.

Getting one is rare enough and the Warriors didn't think they would be in this position to get such a high pick in a long time. So if the Warriors get a Top 5 pick, go for the talent. Even more reasons to do it now that they changed the lottery odds.

They were three sure top prospects last year (Zion, RJ and Ja). Every pick after those three were a crapshoot. This year, there only seems to be one sure guy in Wiseman (unfortunately, we won't see him play much,) and then you have a bunch of intriguing guards. You you don't really have forwards which is what we desperately need but it his what it is.

By the way, look up at Jordan Nwora guys. He's a junior 6/7 small forward from Louisville and has improved every year. He's really impressed to start the year. He's an elite shooter, is versatile, a great rebounder and seems to be a high caracter kid. He even broke the record for most points in Nigeria history scoring 36 points in the FIBA World Cup qualifiers in the summer.

He's been improving immensely every year. Very few people know him right now but he's already risen up really quick in the draft boards to start the year.
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Post#120 » by Coxy » Wed Nov 27, 2019 9:57 pm

Onus wrote:The problem with this draft is that there is no top prospect that really fills our needs.


Wiseman fills needs more than most realise.

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