2020 NBA Draft

[shakes0]

honestly, I don't know if I see any modern PFs in this class worthy of a 1st unless you include McDaniels in that category. maybe Tillie but he's old and always hurt. Obi is decent, Achiuwa haven't been impressed with at all.

Paul Reed and Jeremiah Robinson-Earl I would add. No to Tillie.

i have Reed as a 5, JRE i'm iffy on and he's probably a 2 year guy

I'm just happy to see Paul Reed getting noticed. He's definitely not a 5, way too small. But he'll be a very solid 4, can score at all 3 levels and defends all over the court. I think he's definitely first rounder once more people realize who he is.

[The-Power]

Paul Reed and Jeremiah Robinson-Earl I would add. No to Tillie.

i have Reed as a 5, JRE i'm iffy on and he's probably a 2 year guy

I'm just happy to see Paul Reed getting noticed. He's definitely not a 5, way too small. But he'll be a very solid 4, can score at all 3 levels and defends all over the court. I think he's definitely first rounder once more people realize who he is.

What's your impression of Weems so far? I haven't been able to catch full games of DePaul yet, unfortunately...

[No-Man]

Tyler Bey numbers are **** crazy

He was awesome last year but didn't shoot it, he is shooting it now, if he keeps that volume up he is a top20 guy for damn sure, maybe higher

He is advanced stats are stupid

[Justwar]

Question, can people watch about 5 minutes of Luke ridnour at Oregon and explain what the difference is?

[clyde21]

Tyler Bey numbers are **** crazy

He was awesome last year but didn't shoot it, he is shooting it now, if he keeps that volume up he is a top20 guy for damn sure, maybe higher

He is advanced stats are stupid

i demand an apology fam

[clyde21]

It has already been noted that this draft has a number of PGs/primary ball handlers at the top of the draft. Cole Anthony, Tyrese Haliburton, LaMelo Ball, Killian Hayes, Théo Maledon and Nico Mannion have all been mocked in the lottery at some point. Guys like Tre Jones and Terry Tyrell could be picked high enough to assume that the team drafting them sees them as long-term starters on their team. So I was looking at bad and mediocre teams to see which teams need our could use PG prospects, either because they lack talent or because their starting PG should not be in their long-term plans (age, trade etc.) (worst 17 teams by current record).

Knicks – yes
Warriors – perhaps, if BPA (if Russell is traded)
Hawks – no
Grizzlies – no
Cavaliers – no, unless clear-cut BPA
Wizards – no, unless clear-cut BPA
Pelicans – no, unless clear-cut BPA
Pistons – yes
Bulls – yes
Spurs – perhaps, if BPA
Magic – perhaps, if BPA (if able to shoot)
Thunder – perhaps, if BPA
Kings – no
Blazers – no
Suns – no, unless clear-cut BPA
Hornets – perhaps, if BPA (they need any talent they can get)
Timberwolves – yes

So we have four teams with an obvious need, five teams who should take one if BPA, four teams who should take one only if clear-cut BPA, and four teams who are clearly set at PG. Especially among the worst teams, there should be two prospects who will find an easy path into playing in a lead guard role whereas the rest will have to work hard to carve out such a role for themselves. Also, a couple teams with no real need will have to make tough decisions come draft time when the BPA is a lead guard.

we don't need an on-ball guard, only one on that list that I see as a passable fit on the Warriors is Tyrese.

[clyde21]

top7

1. SCOTTIE LEWIS
2. RJ HAMPTON
3. ANTHONY EDWARDS
4. COLE ANTHONY
5. JAMES WISEMAN
6. OSCAR TSHIEBWE
7. NICO MANNION

Okoro?

he's in the top10 somewhere most likely for me, just don't know where yet.

[No-Man]

Tyler Bey numbers are **** crazy

He was awesome last year but didn't shoot it, he is shooting it now, if he keeps that volume up he is a top20 guy for damn sure, maybe higher

He is advanced stats are stupid

i demand an apology fam

dunno why, it was crazy at the time, Bey was attempting 1 three per 100 poss and playing dumb last year

[Justwar]

It has already been noted that this draft has a number of PGs/primary ball handlers at the top of the draft. Cole Anthony, Tyrese Haliburton, LaMelo Ball, Killian Hayes, Théo Maledon and Nico Mannion have all been mocked in the lottery at some point. Guys like Tre Jones and Terry Tyrell could be picked high enough to assume that the team drafting them sees them as long-term starters on their team. So I was looking at bad and mediocre teams to see which teams need our could use PG prospects, either because they lack talent or because their starting PG should not be in their long-term plans (age, trade etc.) (worst 17 teams by current record).

Knicks – yes
Warriors – perhaps, if BPA (if Russell is traded)
Hawks – no
Grizzlies – no
Cavaliers – no, unless clear-cut BPA
Wizards – no, unless clear-cut BPA
Pelicans – no, unless clear-cut BPA
Pistons – yes
Bulls – yes
Spurs – perhaps, if BPA
Magic – perhaps, if BPA (if able to shoot)
Thunder – perhaps, if BPA
Kings – no
Blazers – no
Suns – no, unless clear-cut BPA
Hornets – perhaps, if BPA (they need any talent they can get)
Timberwolves – yes

So we have four teams with an obvious need, five teams who should take one if BPA, four teams who should take one only if clear-cut BPA, and four teams who are clearly set at PG. Especially among the worst teams, there should be two prospects who will find an easy path into playing in a lead guard role whereas the rest will have to work hard to carve out such a role for themselves. Also, a couple teams with no real need will have to make tough decisions come draft time when the BPA is a lead guard.

we don't need an on-ball guard, only one on that list that I see as a passable fit on the Warriors is Tyrese.

Several guys at pg will slip to the 2nd that we don't expect

[shakes0]

i have Reed as a 5, JRE i'm iffy on and he's probably a 2 year guy

I'm just happy to see Paul Reed getting noticed. He's definitely not a 5, way too small. But he'll be a very solid 4, can score at all 3 levels and defends all over the court. I think he's definitely first rounder once more people realize who he is.

What's your impression of Weems so far? I haven't been able to catch full games of DePaul yet, unfortunately...

He's been solid/pretty good in a limited capacity. Starts, but is probably the 4th or 5th most important starter so far this season. I have no opinion on him as far as an NBA prospect, he hasn't shown nearly enough for that.

DePaul should be on national TV Wednesday when they host Texas Tech.

[clyde21]

Tyler Bey numbers are **** crazy

He was awesome last year but didn't shoot it, he is shooting it now, if he keeps that volume up he is a top20 guy for damn sure, maybe higher

He is advanced stats are stupid

i demand an apology fam

dunno why, it was crazy at the time, Bey was attempting 1 three per 100 poss and playing dumb last year

he still had 26 PER and 60 TS%, also shot 78% from the line (better than this year, even).

not sure what u mean by 'why', he has elite athleticism/bounce, elite length and versatility, can play 2-4, and is/was one of the best rebounding wings I've ever watched. all these things were true last year. he's just shooting 3s now.

even said it at the time, he's a 3 point shot (or passing ability) away from being a top10 pick.

[The-Power]

One player I seem to be a lot higher than most is Landers Nolley II. Redshirt freshman (still 19) who has been killing it on offense in his first 8 games. Per 100 possessions he averages 38.9 Points, 10.0 Rebounds, 4.4 Assists, 2.7 Steals and 1.0 Block (also 5.8 Turnovers, though). He is currently shooting 50.9% on 3's with a 0.453 3PAr. 80.8% from the line. 61.8% TS.

His shot is so smooth, great arc and he can get it off over anyone. He has shown some off-screen and pull-up shooting. Posts up smaller players and shoots over them. He isn't very athletic but has excellent size for a Guard, still solid size for a SF. Prone to forcing some shots up inside the arc and gets cut off his drives at times but once he gets stronger that should alleviate some of the issues, even though he'll never be explosive off the dribble.

Not anything special on defense but can hold his own and should be more active once his usage drops (currently sits at 33.9% USG – he carries Virginia Tech on that end). His playmaking instincts have improved since first couple games of the season as well; he missed some reads then and instead forced up shots, whereas recently he has done a much better job passing off doubles and leveraging his scoring threat.

To sum up, I can see him being an efficient scorer on respectable volume as a wing at the next level, with elite shooting and great size who holds his own defensively and plays well off others (he is used to setting screens and moving into open spots around the perimeter already). Guys like that are hot commodities in the league.

[EvanZ]

One player I seem to be a lot higher than most is Landers Nolley II. Redshirt freshman (still 19) who has been killing it on offense in his first 8 games. Per 100 possessions he averages 38.9 Points, 10.0 Rebounds, 4.4 Assists, 2.7 Steals and 1.0 Block (also 5.8 Turnovers, though). He is currently shooting 50.9% on 3's with a 0.453 3PAr. 80.8% from the line. 61.8% TS.

Statistically, he's like a top 5-10 pick. The question is with his lack of athleticism how much will it translate?

[clyde21]

Nolley is probably a 2 year guy which is why no one is talking about him, wish he was a bit more athletic, but he has good length and is sneaky strong..he's probably closer to 6-4 than 6-6 tho.

[CP War Hawks]

As a fan of a team that needs bigs, I'm keeping my eye on Zeke vs. Wake who has a center that should give him his biggest test so far. Any updates on Makur with his petition, and why does his hs school team start so late.

[No-Man]

One player I seem to be a lot higher than most is Landers Nolley II. Redshirt freshman (still 19) who has been killing it on offense in his first 8 games. Per 100 possessions he averages 38.9 Points, 10.0 Rebounds, 4.4 Assists, 2.7 Steals and 1.0 Block (also 5.8 Turnovers, though). He is currently shooting 50.9% on 3's with a 0.453 3PAr. 80.8% from the line. 61.8% TS.

His shot is so smooth, great arc and he can get it off over anyone. He has shown some off-screen and pull-up shooting. Posts up smaller players and shoots over them. He isn't very athletic but has excellent size for a Guard, still solid size for a SF. Prone to forcing some shots up inside the arc and gets cut off his drives at times but once he gets stronger that should alleviate some of the issues, even though he'll never be explosive off the dribble.

Not anything special on defense but can hold his own and should be more active once his usage drops (currently sits at 33.9% USG – he carries Virginia Tech on that end). His playmaking instincts have improved since first couple games of the season as well; he missed some reads then and instead forced up shots, whereas recently he has done a much better job passing off doubles and leveraging his scoring threat.

To sum up, I can see him being an efficient scorer on respectable volume as a wing at the next level, with elite shooting and great size who holds his own defensively and plays well off others (he is used to setting screens and moving into open spots around the perimeter already). Guys like that are hot commodities in the league.

Nolley isn't a Guard man, he can't dribble

He is playing literally stretch 5 for VA Tech (tallest dude in the team who plays regularly other than a 10minpg back-up) which helps him on both ends really

He is kinda the Tolliver archetype, stretch 4 with really good shooting profile, but no way he is athletic enough to play on the wing and has shown 0 aptitude to put the ball on the floor and do anything, needless to say, doesn't look great on D

[crows2]

Not sure if he’s already been mentioned here but what are people’s thoughts on Aaron Nesmith from Vanderbilt? He’s one of the leading scorers in the country right now but I’m not sure his shooting numbers are sustainable.

[crows2]

Tyler Bey numbers are **** crazy

He was awesome last year but didn't shoot it, he is shooting it now, if he keeps that volume up he is a top20 guy for damn sure, maybe higher

He is advanced stats are stupid

i demand an apology fam

Not until you apologise for having Lewis as the clear number 1 There comes a time where you just have to take it on the chin and admit you’re wrong!

[clyde21]

Tyler Bey numbers are **** crazy

He was awesome last year but didn't shoot it, he is shooting it now, if he keeps that volume up he is a top20 guy for damn sure, maybe higher

He is advanced stats are stupid

i demand an apology fam

Not until you apologise for having Lewis as the clear number 1 There comes a time where you just have to take it on the chin and admit you’re wrong!

I still have him #1 tho

[crows2]

i demand an apology fam

Not until you apologise for having Lewis as the clear number 1 There comes a time where you just have to take it on the chin and admit you’re wrong!

I still have him #1 tho

I know. You’ve gotta let go dude.