Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - CP3/Gallo trade idea pg.81

[JayMKE]

I think people overrate Bogdanovic, that would be way too much give up for somebody you're going to have to pay next season. I would rather have Brogdon than Bogdanovic all things considered.

[MAC1987]

Does Bog play D and do all the little things like Donte?

Plus I don't see why Donte cant reach Bogs level on O.

Easy no to Trading Donte

Brook/Robin/Dragan
Giannis/Jae/Thanasis
Middleton/Wes/Korver
Bogdanovic/Connaughton
Bledsoe/Hill/Mason

We’re giving up too much. Might be drinking the Bucks kool aid, but I’d rather have Donte even up over Bogdanovic. For whatever reason I don’t trust Bogdanovic on the chemistry front.

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[neiLz]

Listening to national media and they were hammering the giannis pending free agency angle. Forgot what station or who it was but they brought up a scenario. Giannis to Golden state for Russell their pick this year (currently 1 overall) plus multiple picks and their young guys.

I'm sick of this narrative and the only way I think giannis leaves is if bucks choke.

If they do choke and giannis deos want out I'd ship him out west and restart a tank.

I just don't want to think about tanking after two years of pwnage.

Being a bucks fan is brutal.

[PG Graveyard]

Listening to national media and they were hammering the giannis pending free agency angle. Forgot what station or who it was but they brought up a scenario. Giannis to Golden state for Russell their pick this year (currently 1 overall) plus multiple picks and their young guys.

I'm sick of this narrative and the only way I think giannis leaves is if bucks choke.

If they do choke and giannis deos want out I'd ship him out west and restart a tank.

Who was this and are they saying the Bucks should trade Giannis this season? Lol.

I just don't want to think about tanking after two years of pwnage.

Being a bucks fan is brutal.

[crkone]

I want to look at the season in chunks so here are stats from the last ten games:

Bucks have the 4th best offense over the past ten games at 115.6 OFFRTG, and the 3rd best defense at 102.5 DEFRTG which equals them have the best NETRTG at 13.1.

Bucks have allowed the 6th most wide open 3 attempts, and teams shot 43% on them, allowing the 3rd most makes over that time span. Teams also shot 40.6% on open 3s (which is much higher than league average, usually around 33%) with the Bucks allowing the 4th most at 5.4 a game.

Wide open and open 3s were pretty terrible, 6th worst percentage for both categories.

Bucks allowed the lowest percentage in the restricted area at 53.6% on the 4th least attempts (25.2) a game. Teams attempted a ton of shots in the paint (19.6) but only shot 35.7%, playing into the Bucks hands. Teams shot a plethora of above the break 3s, 29.8 a game but pretty much had to if they wanted to keep up with the Bucks.

Pullup shooting was atrocious over this time but that was mainly Giannis shooting 6.6 pullup attempts at a healthy 28.8%. They attempted the 4th most catch and shoot 3s and had the 7th most makes per game.

Elbow touches were at 6th most in the league, with 6.1 attempts taken, 3rd most in the league. They shot 73.8% on elbow touches. This was lead by Giannis have 6.2 elbow touches per game and shooting 69.2%.

Bucks were actually 13th in the league in post ups, with 9.1 a game but tied for 3rd most FGM at 3 a game. They shot 65.2% on post ups, 2nd best in the league. This again is lead by Giannis being a God and shooting 75% on post ups in 2.4 attempts a game.

Drives haven't been there this whole season but Bucks had the 9th fewest drives per game over the last 10 games. They had the 12th most FGM over this time because they shoot the 4th best percentage on drives.

The Bucks had the most rebounds per game over this time and were 2nd in adjusted rebound chance percentage, percentage of rebounds gathered when given a rebound chance; excludes all deferred rebounds.

Clutch stats were pretty worthless as there were only a total of 13 clutch minutes (5 point diff or less, last 5 minutes) in those ten games but the Bucks shot 1 of 6 on 3s and 15 of 34 on total FGs. Per minute, they would've been second in blocks, 5th in steals, and 3rd in rebounding (1st in offensive). They were 1st in +/-. The Bucks for the whole season are the best offensive rebounding team in the clutch and have the best +/-.

These next couple stats aren't comparing ten games, but games from the 14th of November until today because nba.com doesn't have a "season segments" category with last games for hustle stats:

Bucks contested the most 2ptrs and the 2nd most 3ptrs by far leading the league in contested shots at 76.3 a game. Brook lead the league in contested 2ptrs over this time at 15.2 a game, while Robin contested 8.1 a game for 2nd on the team. I'd chalk up the contested shots for 3ptrs being that the Bucks allow a lot of 3 pointers. Contested shots are the number of times a defensive player or team closes out and raises a hand to contest a shot prior to its release.

[Bernman]

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Crowder for DJ, Korver, and a 2nd. I would do Robin over DJ, but we'd have to get a 3rd team involved becasue he's not what Memphis needs, and this risks alienating Brook. They could run it by him I suppose, with the reasoning they tried it, but they are too similar, considering they are twins.

Bucks need to clear up the logjam of true bigs as well as get a little younger + more defensive on the wing so Middleton is not saddled w/ the responsibility of chasing around the opposition's best player in the playoffs again. This is the #1 way to project to be better in the playoff in lieu of Brogdon. AFA the wings, Korver and Matthews are redundant. Matthews plays better d. One older player there is enough. The brass wanted to lean on experience, but in the process got questionably old, which led to problems early in the season and could create more later if/when we start to lean on them again.

[BroncoBuck]

Reggie Bullock is a prime candidate to be traded once he is healthy. His deal is cheap and the Knicks are so terrible. I could see it as a move if one of our wings goes down for an extended period of time. I like our team as is as of now though.

[Ruzious]

I see no significant trades unless we have a significant injury.

[soxperry]

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Crowder for DJ, Korver, and a 2nd. I would do Robin over DJ, but we'd have to get a 3rd team involved becasue he's not what Memphis needs, and this risks alienating Brook. They could run it by him I suppose, with the reasoning they tried it, but they are too similar, considering they are twins.

Bucks need to clear up the logjam of true bigs as well as get a little younger + more defensive on the wing so Middleton is not saddled w/ the responsibility of chasing around the opposition's best player in the playoffs again. This is the #1 way to project to be better in the playoff in lieu of Brogdon. AFA the wings, Korver and Matthews are redundant. Matthews plays better d. One older player there is enough. The brass wanted to lean on experience, but in the process got questionably old, which led to problems early in the season and could create more later if/when we start to lean on them again.

Someone will pony up more than that for Crowder. Korver is useless to them and DJ probably isnt coveted by anyone who doesnt post here. The Indy 1st is too much though.

[emunney]

Wouldn't trade Donte for a non all-star.

[emunney]

Brook/Robin/Dragan
Giannis/Jae/Thanasis
Middleton/Wes/Korver
Bogdanovic/Connaughton
Bledsoe/Hill/Mason

We’re giving up too much. Might be drinking the Bucks kool aid, but I’d rather have Donte even up over Bogdanovic. For whatever reason I don’t trust Bogdanovic on the chemistry front.

Donte's been playing good individual defense, absurdly good team defense, and is a wildcard offensively on a team without enough of them. Nobody else on this team is credibly shooting a 28 footer off a hang dribble. Bogdan could do that more credibly, but without the incredibly elastic defensive range.

15-1 since he joined the rotation after a 2-2 start.

[LuessiT]

Still think finding a way to flip Middleton for Jrue Holiday is the way to go. Pelicans are about to be 6-15.

[HKPackFan]

Anyone Jonesing for the Clippers game?

I know the Detroit game comes first and we shouldn't look ahead, but how can you not?

#1) The last regular season meeting against the supposed Champions (or at least WCF team).
#2) Our first meeting in a while against a top FULL STRENGTH squad (at least full strength in terms of two superstars are back). We seemed to get every team missing their superstar.
#3) Freak vs Claw rematch since ECF.
#4) Gives us insight onto where we stand with the top dogs of the West.

AAAAAAAAAAGHHH I want it to start already. I know, I know, it's just regular season, but STILL!

[Matches Malone]

Still think finding a way to flip Middleton for Jrue Holiday is the way to go. Pelicans are about to be 6-15.

I'd be down if we could flip Bledsoe for a wing then. Only hesitation I have is the chemistry is so good on this team right now. Would be hard to break that up.

[LuessiT]

Still think finding a way to flip Middleton for Jrue Holiday is the way to go. Pelicans are about to be 6-15.

I'd be down if we could flip Bledsoe for a wing then. Only hesitation I have is the chemistry is so good on this team right now. Would be hard to break that up.

Nah the plan would be to run a backcourt with Bledsoe and Holiday at the 1 and 2.

[brickhead]

Bucks in: jae crowder
Bucks out: ersan illyasova ,bucks 2022 2nd round

Grizzlies in:ersan illyasova,etwaun moore washington 2023 2nd,pelicans 2024 2nd
Grizzlies out:jae crowder, kyle anderson, golden state 2024 1st

Pelicans in: kyle anderson, bucks 2022 2nd, golden state 2024 1st
Pelicans out: etwan moore, washington 2023 2nd, pelocans 2024 2nd

[bucksfansince88]

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Crowder for DJ, Korver, and a 2nd. I would do Robin over DJ, but we'd have to get a 3rd team involved becasue he's not what Memphis needs, and this risks alienating Brook. They could run it by him I suppose, with the reasoning they tried it, but they are too similar, considering they are twins.

Bucks need to clear up the logjam of true bigs as well as get a little younger + more defensive on the wing so Middleton is not saddled w/ the responsibility of chasing around the opposition's best player in the playoffs again. This is the #1 way to project to be better in the playoff in lieu of Brogdon. AFA the wings, Korver and Matthews are redundant. Matthews plays better d. One older player there is enough. The brass wanted to lean on experience, but in the process got questionably old, which led to problems early in the season and could create more later if/when we start to lean on them again.

Give me Dillon brooks instead for that package

[crkone]

New article by the Bucks Heel

http://woelfelspressbox.com/2019/12/bucks-benefit-from-a-joke-of-a-schedule/

You can only play the teams on your schedule.

And, for the Milwaukee Bucks and Los Angeles Lakers, that has been a collection of the NBA’s “Who’s Who’’ of worst teams in the last month.

Both the Bucks and Lakers have compiled the best records in the Eastern and Western conferences, respectively, by beating up on teams that have little or no chance of making the playoffs.

Let’s start with the Bucks.

They are currently riding the wave of a 12-game winning streak. On the surface, that would be a hell of an accomplishment. But the Bucks have benefitted greatly from a ridiculously feeble schedule.

During their 12-game winning streak, the Bucks played 10 teams with LOSING records. In their last four games, they played the Eastern Conference’s four worst teams: New York (4-17 record), Charlotte (8-14), Cleveland (5-15) and Atlanta (5-16). What’s more, during their current winning streak, the Bucks played Chicago (7-14) on two occasions.

The only good Eastern Conference team, the only one that figures to make the playoffs, the Bucks played was Indiana. Yet, that game was a joke. The Pacers not only played without their best player –ex-Buck Malcolm Brogdon (19.4 points and 8 assists) – but without Brogdon’s starting backcourt partner Jeremy Lamb (16.9 points) and their top replacement T.J. McConnell (6.8 pts, 4.6 assists). That’s a combined 43 points that the Pacers didn’t have at their disposal.

While the Pacers were the only viable Eastern Conference playoff opponent on the Bucks’ schedule during their winning streak, they played just one definite Western Conference playoff-caliber team: the Utah Jazz.

But the Jazz, like the Pacers, weren’t at full strength against the Bucks A team that is constructed around defense, the Jazz were without center Rudy Gobert, not only their best defender but the NBA’s reigning Defensive Player of the Year.

After playing yet another sub-.500 team –Detroit (8-13) on Wednesday night, the Bucks figure to finally get tested for the first time in almost a month– yes, a month – on Friday night when they host the L.A. Clippers.

It’ll mark the second and final regular-season meeting between the Bucks and Clippers, the first coming on Nov. 6 in L.A. The Bucks barely won that game 129-124 – even though the Clippers were without their two superstars Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

After the Clippers’ encounter, the Bucks will get back to playing some more glorified G League teams. They’ll then face Orlando (9-11), New Orleans (6-15), Memphis (6-14) and Cleveland (5-15).

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The Lakers, like the Bucks, have done what they were expected to do by feasting on the cupcakes of the league. Now, we’ll see just how good they are when they start playing legitimate competition.

[Nowak008]

Wouldn't trade Donte for a non all-star.

Looking around the league it's hard to imagine someone realistic I would trade him for. Maybe Holiday? Hard to match salaries though.

[raferfenix]

A big variable for how to value potential Bucks trade packages is if Budenholzer can successfully hone the development of some combination of our young guys.

Donte sure looks like he's developing nicely.

DJ is showing flashes too. And it's certainly not inconceivable Sterling Brown improves enough over the course of the season that he'd be enticing to a team before the deadline.

Improvement from them will / would change how we assess our needs as well -- especially if Divicenzo starts looking like our answer for the starting 2 spot long term.