thebigbird wrote:tamaraw08 wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Borderline?
on/ff of -6
I would say Rondo, Daniels, Dudley are all unplayable. They aren't young enough that you expect them to improve over the season, this is as good as it gets for them.
I don't like certain very specific stat bec it doesn't deduce the overall worth and performance of a player. From that stat, it also says Quin Cook looks better than more than 10 players INCLUDING (in 10TH PLACE Davis), Green, Howard etc etc etc etc.
If you use the WS, OWS, BPM, OBPM etc, it will show Rondo is better than players like Caruso, Bradley too but I am not saying Rondo is a great player who should play heavy minutes.
He is not great but he is that bad either IMO.
Davis is 10th because he plays a bunch of minutes with Rondo, and the pairing has been terrible.
You're not really pointing to anything to suggest he's "not that bad either." He's been a net negative on every team he's been on since 2012. That's a good measure of his overall worth. It's why he's bounced around from team to team.
I don't care what his WS, BPM, etc. are. His numbers are skewed because he hunts for assists to the detriment of the team. I care how the team does when he's on the court, and they've been really bad.
But thats the thing, you said, I can't point out stats to prove he's not that bad but you don't care about other stats like WS and BPM
It's true, at times he hunts for assists but I don't think it's always the case.
How about 3pt shooting? TS%, PER, in DRTG he's better than Bradley, KCP AND Kuzma.
Again I don't like just taking one freaking stat to assess one's player value.
You mentioned AD and Rondo is a terrible combo? currently the top 6 in minutes played from 177 minutes (Kuzma +4.1 to KCP's 79 mins generates a positive score including AD for 128 mins +3.3. Yes, this will fluctuate but again Lakers do NOT have any LEGIT PG who can provide relief for Lebron. Actually, the James/Rondo combo now has a +12.3 (135 mins) tied for 4th for 2-man combo better than James/AD.
Also in his last playoffs with the Pelicans, the team was a + 7.4 with him on the court with a -5.6 when he's off.
Again I am not saying Rondo is the answer for the Lakers specific problems. Yes, he is not a good defender, yes, at times he hunts for assists but I just don't see Cook, Daniels and others can REALLY facilitate this teams' offense when James sits, can you?