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Jeffrey wrote:So who are we looking at... i want the top effing names next to the Mets. Yes free agents, please wait a few weeks until all of the details of this **** irons out. I'm talking to you Rendon, Cole, Ryu, etc.
So who do we want?
Jeff Van Gully wrote:madoff cleaned them out so they need that cash.
delvec19 wrote:Can he buy the Knicks too?
newyorker4ever wrote:I don't think it will be this year that Cohen will be able to throw his money around and start signing big name free agents. The sale has still got to be approved and all the other owners will be involved in this and you can bet your azz that certain ones will do whatever they can to slow the process down long enough to at least make it through this free agency which is why you see us trading for J.Marisnik.
Bulls69 wrote:The think about the Bulls we realizes we sucks but the Knicks on the other hand think everyone wants to play a garbage a** team. get real a team who has not won a win in over thirty -five years
Scenario 1: Marisnick plays a lot, Nimmo and Conforto play in the corners
Marisnick is a career .227/.280/.380 hitter, but his elite defense (he ranked near the top of the league in outs above average, sprint speed, and outfielder jump this past season) makes him valuable.
He started 73 games in 2019 for the Astros and appeared in 109.
On days when Marisnick is in center field, the Mets can shift Conforto and Nimmo to the corner outfield spots, where Van Wagenen wants them.
In the above alignment, Marisnick would give the Mets a terrific defender in center while Nimmo (who is below average in center field) and Conforto (who is well below average in center field) are in a better position to succeed.
Bu on days where Marisnick, Nimmo, and Conforto start, J.D. Davis would likely be on the bench.
If the Mets feel the defensive value Marisnick provides (and the poor left field defense Davis provides) justifies the above, it could make sense as an alignment that is used often. If not...
Scenario 2: Marisnick plays primarily against lefties, as does Davis
In order to get Davis' bat in the lineup more often, the Mets could opt to platoon Nimmo and Marisnick in center field, with Nimmo starting there most games against right-handers and Marisnick starting there most games against left-handers.
Nimmo is a career .253/.368/.415 hitter against lefties, while Marisnick is a career .234/.291/.410 hitter against lefties. So like the first scenario, Marisnick would be in there not because of his offense, but because of his defense.
If the Mets believe the combination of Davis' bat and Marisnick's defense is better than the combination of Davis' bat and Nimmo's offense/defense combination, the above could make sense. If not...
Scenario 3: Marisnick is used primarily off the bench
This seems unlikely, since -- as noted above -- the trade for Marisnick accomplishes Van Wagenen's goal of improving the team's defense and seemingly will make Van Wagenen's other goal (using Conforto and Nimmo in the corners often) a reality.
But as we've touched on a few times already this offseason, a full outfield with Conforto and Nimmo in the corners (regardless of who the center fielder is) means Davis potentially being the odd man out. And it's very hard to justify a hitter of Davis' caliber not starting most games.
If the Mets opt to use Marisnick primarily off the bench, Davis could wind up starting most games in left field -- even though he prefers to play third base.
No matter what happens as far as the outfield, it seems that Jeff McNeil -- who spent a lot of time in the outfield in 2019 -- will be the team's regular third baseman.
HarthorneWingo wrote:delvec19 wrote:Can he buy the Knicks too?
Dolan's issue isn't that he doesn't spend the money. He will and he does. He just needs a better basketball front office and coaching staff.
NYKnickerbocker wrote:I can actually look at hot stove shows with excitement now thinking my team my actually spend money lol
HarthorneWingo wrote:NYKnickerbocker wrote:I can actually look at hot stove shows with excitement now thinking my team my actually spend money lol
Not necessarily, I read. Word is he may be an analytics guy which probably means more Oakland As style type of management. Anyhow, point is, we won't know until we see that he's in control because if he's in control now, the Jake Marisnick trade is not one that would suggest he's going to be a big spender.
HarthorneWingo wrote:NYKnickerbocker wrote:I can actually look at hot stove shows with excitement now thinking my team my actually spend money lol
Not necessarily, I read. Word is he may be an analytics guy which probably means more Oakland As style type of management. Anyhow, point is, we won't know until we see that he's in control because if he's in control now, the Jake Marisnick trade is not one that would suggest he's going to be a big spender.
reub wrote:Marisnick is Lagaras with a better contract. Meh.
Jeffrey wrote:HarthorneWingo wrote:NYKnickerbocker wrote:I can actually look at hot stove shows with excitement now thinking my team my actually spend money lol
Not necessarily, I read. Word is he may be an analytics guy which probably means more Oakland As style type of management. Anyhow, point is, we won't know until we see that he's in control because if he's in control now, the Jake Marisnick trade is not one that would suggest he's going to be a big spender.
I'm okay with this. Buy the whole MIT/Harvard analytics guy and get to work. I'm asking him to get to the top of the luxury tax year in and year out. Some years, just need to go over not to be too crazy. There's no cap on getting the best god damn scouting talents in the world, no caps on getting good managers, GMs, analytical guys.
