Official trade Julius Randle thread

seren · Post #101 » by **seren** » Tue Nov 19, 2019 10:26 pm

I just don’t see the value in a guy whose best position is center but he is undersized and can’t play defense. At his best, he is a luxury on a good team who can win without him. I hope we move him the first chance we get.

jvsimonetti0514 · Post #102 » by **jvsimonetti0514** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:14 am

the THJR comparisons are really off base. Randle past two season has TS% over 60%. So he's at least a very efficient offensive player and his contact is half as long. Hardaway wishes he was anywhere near as good as an offensive player as Randle. If Randle doesn't continue to grow like he did last year you can cut base with him after next year, while he plays tank commander. We probably need two more top 5 picks to build a contender anyways.

TBri1974 · Post #103 » by **TBri1974** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:54 am

Randle is a slightly better version of Zack Randolph who is being used incorrectly. He could be great coming off the bench or as a starter if he is featured for about 12 shots a night near the basket. He's not a point forward and needs to be surrounded by guys who can make up for his lack of defensive capacity. I would trade Randle in a second - I always thought he was a slightly more talented Kanter (not because their game is similar but because they can score and rebound but dont play defense) - but for now I blame the woes on coaching and he is averaging nearly 5 assists.

Sprewell4Three · Post #104 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:37 pm

Hopefully he continues to play well and the Knicks can get something of value for him.

3toheadmelo · Post #105 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:47 pm

jvsimonetti0514 wrote:the THJR comparisons are really off base. Randle past two season has TS% over 60%. So he's at least a very efficient offensive player and his contact is half as long. Hardaway wishes he was anywhere near as good as an offensive player as Randle. If Randle doesn't continue to grow like he did last year you can cut base with him after next year, while he plays tank commander. We probably need two more top 5 picks to build a contender anyways.

Yeah the Tim Hardaway comparisons are lazy and terrible. Just like the Kanter ones.

Sprewell4Three · Post #106 » by **Sprewell4Three** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 4:14 pm

This man is floundering out there. Horrible signing so far. I don’t think we’ve put him in the right position to succeed but he’s been exposed as nothing more then a 3rd or 4th option.

RandlesCornrows · Post #107 » by **RandlesCornrows** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 5:14 pm

Should’ve given Morris that contract

Jalen Bluntson · Post #108 » by **Jalen Bluntson** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 7:45 pm

He's not a Batman or a Robin. That's all. Neither is Morris. They are both being put in that role here. Basically by default. It's clear as day things Randle needs to work on...being a focal point magnifies it. Hopefully Mike Miller recognizes these things and puts him in a better positon to succeed...as well as for team success. Fizdale having him play LeBron was terrible. Last night...he didn't do that as much.

He's not trash. He's not a number 1 or 2 option. He's not getting a max deal for 4 years either. I'm not down on the dude like others. I think he and Morris need to be staggered AND playing 4/5 together when they are on the court.

br7knicks · Post #109 » by **br7knicks** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 8:25 pm

Stannis wrote:Not worth to trade him now b/c we'd have to package a pick or two with him. He's looking like a bad contract.

Better off trading him next season. Yes he sucks, but I think his numbers will look better without Marcus Morris next season. And we can get away with just waiving him if necessary.

this is the problem.

i didn't like KP, and i'm glad he left, but it was quite the expense just to unload the **** contract of timmy.

if mills/perry are still around, i wouldn't put it past them to trade picks away, despite what they said earlier

br7knicks · Post #110 » by **br7knicks** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 8:27 pm

nykfan42 wrote:He is awful. Just so hard to watch. I dont' remember the last time I cringed so much for a player when the ball was in his hands. Maybe JR Smith? That thirsty clown.

randle reminds me of both JR Smith and melo. the second they get the ball, i always assumed an inefficient, stupid, retard-level shot, or a turnover.

majority of the time i was correct in thinking so, and it still holds true with randle

RHODEY · Post #111 » by **RHODEY** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 8:36 pm

TBri1974 wrote:Randle is a slightly better version of Zack Randolph who is being used incorrectly. He could be great coming off the bench or as a starter if he is featured for about 12 shots a night near the basket. He's not a point forward and needs to be surrounded by guys who can make up for his lack of defensive capacity. I would trade Randle in a second - I always thought he was a slightly more talented Kanter (not because their game is similar but because they can score and rebound but dont play defense) - but for now I blame the woes on coaching and he is averaging nearly 5 assists.

Zach Randolph? , The guy who led those qualitiy Grizzlies teams is the western playoffs? for multiple years I don't think Randle could hold a prime Randolph's jockstrap.

Besart19 · Post #112 » by **Besart19** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 10:05 pm

Randle, Dotson, Mavs 1st for Beal

Draft ‘20 / Smith / Allen
Beal / Ntilikina / Trier
Barrett / Bullock / Iggy
Morris / Knox / Carmelo
Davis / Mitch / Gibson

Sark · Post #113 » by **Sark** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 10:10 pm

Stannis · Post #114 » by **Stannis** » Sun Dec 8, 2019 11:44 pm

br7knicks wrote:
Stannis wrote:Not worth to trade him now b/c we'd have to package a pick or two with him. He's looking like a bad contract.

Better off trading him next season. Yes he sucks, but I think his numbers will look better without Marcus Morris next season. And we can get away with just waiving him if necessary.

this is the problem.

i didn't like KP, and i'm glad he left, but it was quite the expense just to unload the **** contract of timmy.

if mills/perry are still around, i wouldn't put it past them to trade picks away, despite what they said earlier

It would be poetic (in a bad way) for Pills to use those Dallas picks to unload Randle, lol.

nedleeds · Post #115 » by **nedleeds** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 12:40 am

Who was paying Randle $20 for 1-year or $30 for 2-years? This is why Perry and Mills need to be eliminated. There was no team in the league with either of those offers on the table. No team in the league with $15 million for Bobby **** Portis.

br7knicks · Post #116 » by **br7knicks** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 12:56 am

Stannis wrote:
br7knicks wrote:
Stannis wrote:Not worth to trade him now b/c we'd have to package a pick or two with him. He's looking like a bad contract.

Better off trading him next season. Yes he sucks, but I think his numbers will look better without Marcus Morris next season. And we can get away with just waiving him if necessary.

this is the problem.

i didn't like KP, and i'm glad he left, but it was quite the expense just to unload the **** contract of timmy.

if mills/perry are still around, i wouldn't put it past them to trade picks away, despite what they said earlier

It would be poetic (in a bad way) for Pills to use those Dallas picks to unload Randle, lol.

yup, poetic, but not farfetched.

they may just do it, out of spite, because they know their days are limited

Post #117 » by **dakomish23** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 1:10 am

There’s no way it should take picks to unload Randle if that’s what they want.

I wouldn’t trade him. Use him correctly

DLTGWH · Post #118 » by **DLTGWH** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 1:11 am

I don’t want mills or Perry trading anyone. Trade these two scrubs for a real GM then see about trading Randle. Give mills free reign and he’ll trade Randle and include RJ just to rid himself of Dennis Smith

DickGrayson · Post #119 » by **DickGrayson** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 6:32 am

Randle can go for a 2nd rounder. Dallas can actually use him at PF to help Dallas with the boards and Doncic/Barea/Brunson will take the ball away from Randle.

Addition by substraction type situation for us. The only thing Randle expects to be a full time starter and thats the problem. I dont ge the vibe he is open to coming off the bench and that is why he is harder to move. Teams have to commit to his demands.

Tron Carter · Post #120 » by **Tron Carter** » Mon Dec 9, 2019 12:07 pm

Yesterday, Nic Batum was a DNP-CD.

Charolette’s coach James Borrego said recently “You have to value your time on the floor. This isn’t a God-given right to step on the floor and just go through the motions.”

Imagine if we had a coach who valued accountability instead of placating a net negative Tasmanian devil wanna-be in Randle because he’s the highest paid player on the team.