Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - CP3/Gallo trade idea pg.81

[soxperry]

I would be shocked if Horst dealt any major pieces now, but I concur that a move for Jrue would make us better now and improve our cap sheet moving forward. Posted a trade idea a while back, but using the Magic in a 3-way for Jrue makes lot of sense to me.

MKE: Jrue, Redick
ORL: Midds, Korver
NOP: Gordon, Bamba, Ross, IND 1st

We get another elite 2-way player that can guard 3 positions, replace Korver with a better version for his role in Redick.

Orlando adds desperately needed "star" power and shooting.

New Orleans cashes in on win-now pieces for a solid asset haul.

Bled / Hill
Jrue / DDV / Pat
Wes / Redick / Brown
Giannis / Ilyasova / Wilson
Brook / Robin / Bender

We sacrifice length, but that team would terrorize on defense while being able to replace Khris's production on offense.

ETA: I'm obviously cool standing pat too, as chemistry seems to be at an all-time high right now.

I dont like this at all. I think that if we trade for Jrue, Bledsoe has to be a part of the trade. Having two starting guards who can't reliably hit a three pointer is going to make life a lot harder on Giannis.

[ShootingtheJ]

Yeah I've had a look in the past and I don't think that guy exists. Our best shot imo is to hope for DJ to develope into that guy.

Meyers Leonard has improved immensely to become a worthwhile defender, and he's a ridiculous shooter. Over 50% on 3s this year, and more importantly, he's a career 48% 3 point shooter in the playoffs. That would be a welcome addition after last year.

Hard worker, smart, can pass, and a good teammate. Only problem is getting his contract to fit, but that's a real problem.

Good shout. Haven't followed him in a while but to me it's suspect that he shoots basicly a career low in 3PA with by far his highest %.

True, but he did shoot the 3 at 45% last year, and 42% the year before. He shoots mostly above the break 3s. Tough to say he's anything but a great 3 point shooting big.

[soxperry]

Meyers Leonard has improved immensely to become a worthwhile defender, and he's a ridiculous shooter. Over 50% on 3s this year, and more importantly, he's a career 48% 3 point shooter in the playoffs. That would be a welcome addition after last year.

Hard worker, smart, can pass, and a good teammate. Only problem is getting his contract to fit, but that's a real problem.

Good shout. Haven't followed him in a while but to me it's suspect that he shoots basicly a career low in 3PA with by far his highest %.

True, but he did shoot the 3 at 45% last year, and 42% the year before. He shoots mostly above the break 3s. Tough to say he's anything but a great 3 point shooting big.

So what's the angle on Leonard? Miami probably feels like they are on the doorstep of contending. Wouldn't they want to keep him? Or are we discussing his pending free agency?

[Matches Malone]

I’m fine not making any moves. Chemistry is too good, and the only bad player on the team never plays unless the Bucks are up by 30

Robin Lopez plays, and he's terrible. He was somehow -15 in our udder beat down of the Clippers. The team has been much better when they use 2 PFs.

That's true. But he will have his use against much bigger players, especially in the playoffs when you need big bodies for Embiid, Horford, Sabonis, Gasol, Vuc, etc.

[TroyD92]

I’m fine not making any moves. Chemistry is too good, and the only bad player on the team never plays unless the Bucks are up by 30

Robin Lopez plays, and he's terrible. He was somehow -15 in our udder beat down of the Clippers. The team has been much better when they use 2 PFs.

That's true. But he will have his use against much bigger players, especially in the playoffs when you need big bodies for Embiid, Horford, Sabonis, Gasol, Vuc, etc.

My thoughts. But didn’t play him much if at all against the clippers.

[raferfenix]

Matthews settling in and Donte snowing flashes like Manu make improving our SG situation less of a priority.

Pat and Sterling Brown contributing significantly is also what made it possible for the Bucks to thrive despite Middleton’s absence.

Korver is the only one who might not be working out. But the season is long and that could still happen.

Or we find a way to upgrade that 3-point sniper bench role if he is done. That player might not get many minutes though unless we’d be thinning out the rotation elsewhere.

[crkone]

I’m fine not making any moves. Chemistry is too good, and the only bad player on the team never plays unless the Bucks are up by 30

Robin Lopez plays, and he's terrible. He was somehow -15 in our udder beat down of the Clippers. The team has been much better when they use 2 PFs.

That's true. But he will have his use against much bigger players, especially in the playoffs when you need big bodies for Embiid, Horford, Sabonis, Gasol, Vuc, etc.

It more has to do with Robin playing garbage time(8:56), and his limited minutes in the 2nd quarter (2:53). In the 2nd quarter, Giannis was -59, George was -56, and Mids was -50.

[MrHoneycutt]

Matthews settling in and Donte snowing flashes like Manu make improving our SG situation less of a priority.

Pat and Sterling Brown contributing significantly is also what made it possible for the Bucks to thrive despite Middleton’s absence.

Korver is the only one who might not be working out. But the season is long and that could still happen.

Or we find a way to upgrade that 3-point sniper bench role if he is done. That player might not get many minutes though unless we’d be thinning out the rotation elsewhere.

Anybody else feel like they just need to get a little more creative freeing Korver up? I've had the thought recently that they are just sending one screen for him to roll off of and shoot, and whenever he's in the game the opposition sits on it. He's had to put up a lot of harried, leaning sideways 3s as a result. We know he doesn't bring much else to the table, but working a little harder to get him better looks could pay off a lot.

[DrWood]

Yeah I've had a look in the past and I don't think that guy exists. Our best shot imo is to hope for DJ to develope into that guy.

Davis Bertans but he'd probably take more than RLo/DJ. Want him for that sweet, sweet shooting.

He's not a 4/5 and a big negative on defense. Not at all what OP was looking for.

he's mostly a 4 and plays more 5 than 3. But yeah, that defense. I'd only want him much cheaper.

added:
Olynyk and Baynes would probably qualify for what I'm looking for.

[DrWood]

Korver is the only one who might not be working out. But the season is long and that could still happen.

This is who Korver is. He could improve his 3P% slightly, but I don't think he was brought in to play more than he has.

[Shaffty]

Korver is the only one who might not be working out. But the season is long and that could still happen.

This is who Korver is. He could improve his 3P% slightly, but I don't think he was brought in to play more than he has.

Keeping him away from the sixers was way more important than anything he could give the Bucks on the court

[Baddy Chuck]

Robin Lopez plays, and he's terrible. He was somehow -15 in our udder beat down of the Clippers. The team has been much better when they use 2 PFs.

That's true. But he will have his use against much bigger players, especially in the playoffs when you need big bodies for Embiid, Horford, Sabonis, Gasol, Vuc, etc.

My thoughts. But didn’t play him much if at all against the clippers.

Robin sucked the first couple weeks and his been fine to good ever since. Team is rebounding good with him and he's literally top 5 in defense near the rim. With Giannis and him on the court together we have a 10.4 net rating (better then a "much better" Ilyasova/Giannis combo). ****, he's even shooting 34% from three. Don't let the "he's worse than Thon Maker!" takes fool you.

[Fotis St]

D.Bender , DJ Wilson for Jabari Parker

Why ?

I believe Jabari can help us more , come playoffs, fisting 2nd units.

I still miss someone like Michael Beasley, a guy that can carry our 2nd unit offensively.

I know you are about to say we don't need someone to carry our 2nd unit cause Bud's system is working for us.

I agree … it works on regular season … I am still not confident that this scheme will work for the playoffs.

So I want another player who can create his own shot, when nothing else works.

[Ron Swanson]

D.Bender , DJ Wilson for Jabari Parker

Why ?

I believe Jabari can help us more , come playoffs, fisting 2nd units.

[jakecronus8]

The cult of Jabari lives on. **** that dude forever

[TMG]

Just say no to Jabari


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[RiotPunch]

I would be shocked if Horst dealt any major pieces now, but I concur that a move for Jrue would make us better now and improve our cap sheet moving forward. Posted a trade idea a while back, but using the Magic in a 3-way for Jrue makes lot of sense to me.

MKE: Jrue, Redick
ORL: Midds, Korver
NOP: Gordon, Bamba, Ross, IND 1st

We get another elite 2-way player that can guard 3 positions, replace Korver with a better version for his role in Redick.

Orlando adds desperately needed "star" power and shooting.

New Orleans cashes in on win-now pieces for a solid asset haul.

Bled / Hill
Jrue / DDV / Pat
Wes / Redick / Brown
Giannis / Ilyasova / Wilson
Brook / Robin / Bender

We sacrifice length, but that team would terrorize on defense while being able to replace Khris's production on offense.

ETA: I'm obviously cool standing pat too, as chemistry seems to be at an all-time high right now.

I dont like this at all. I think that if we trade for Jrue, Bledsoe has to be a part of the trade. Having two starting guards who can't reliably hit a three pointer is going to make life a lot harder on Giannis.

I get that, but Bud can figure it out. You've got Wes, Redick, Donte, Hill, Pat, Brown to offset Bled/Jrue's shortcomings as shooters. A bit of minute staggering and you're fine, but Brook & Wes should be sufficient as spacers out of the gate for Giannis, while GL scoring on a Bled/Jrue/Wes/Giannis/Brook lineup.

(also, you save ~$100M long-term)

[Perishable517]

Korver is the only one who might not be working out. But the season is long and that could still happen.

This is who Korver is. He could improve his 3P% slightly, but I don't think he was brought in to play more than he has.

He is a guy who opens the court just by being on the court. That, in itself, is big.

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[Perishable517]

I would be shocked if Horst dealt any major pieces now, but I concur that a move for Jrue would make us better now and improve our cap sheet moving forward. Posted a trade idea a while back, but using the Magic in a 3-way for Jrue makes lot of sense to me.

MKE: Jrue, Redick
ORL: Midds, Korver
NOP: Gordon, Bamba, Ross, IND 1st

We get another elite 2-way player that can guard 3 positions, replace Korver with a better version for his role in Redick.

Orlando adds desperately needed "star" power and shooting.

New Orleans cashes in on win-now pieces for a solid asset haul.

Bled / Hill
Jrue / DDV / Pat
Wes / Redick / Brown
Giannis / Ilyasova / Wilson
Brook / Robin / Bender

We sacrifice length, but that team would terrorize on defense while being able to replace Khris's production on offense.

ETA: I'm obviously cool standing pat too, as chemistry seems to be at an all-time high right now.

I dont like this at all. I think that if we trade for Jrue, Bledsoe has to be a part of the trade. Having two starting guards who can't reliably hit a three pointer is going to make life a lot harder on Giannis.

I get that, but Bud can figure it out. You've got Wes, Redick, Donte, Hill, Pat, Brown to offset Bled/Jrue's shortcomings as shooters. A bit of minute staggering and you're fine, but Brook & Wes should be sufficient as spacers out of the gate for Giannis, while GL scoring on a Bled/Jrue/Wes/Giannis/Brook lineup.

(also, you save ~$100M long-term)

Reddick is a prick. I do not want him anywhere near the team.

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[RiotPunch]

I dont like this at all. I think that if we trade for Jrue, Bledsoe has to be a part of the trade. Having two starting guards who can't reliably hit a three pointer is going to make life a lot harder on Giannis.

I get that, but Bud can figure it out. You've got Wes, Redick, Donte, Hill, Pat, Brown to offset Bled/Jrue's shortcomings as shooters. A bit of minute staggering and you're fine, but Brook & Wes should be sufficient as spacers out of the gate for Giannis, while GL scoring on a Bled/Jrue/Wes/Giannis/Brook lineup.

(also, you save ~$100M long-term)

Reddick is a prick. I do not want him anywhere near the team.

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Swallow your pride, he's a generational shooter.