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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#121 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:34 pm

zaymon wrote:Hey guys, would you be interested in Aaron Gordon ? I was thinking Gallo + DEN 2020 1st or MIA 2023 1st. Thoughts ? Maybe some other ideas. thanks

I wouldn’t do it. We want to get assets for Gallo not use them to get players like Gordon. Gordon is worth more than Gallo but I’ve given up the notion he is going to make an all star leap. He’s a nice piece on a win now team but not so elite that I want to have him as a part of the future. Best case scenario is he is flipped for more assets. That the leaves okc trying to recoup assets they gave to acquire him. It makes no sense to me.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#122 » by Balkman32 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 7:58 pm

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I"m curious what teams are interested in sending back long term deals? Wiggins kind isn't trash so Minny might want to keep him. Are we going to get John Wall? Mike Conley? Tim Hardaway jr? Most of the bad contracts out there aren't more than two years except yours' truly, CP3.


Lavine, Randle, Love, Griffin, Gary Harris, Tobias Harris, Barnes


Oklahoma City is open to accepting the higher salaries that rivals want to move, including long-term deals.

This is just such a weird statement. I would take any of the above guys (other than John Wall) with draft capital.

I would like to see us move Dre (I think he isn’t playing this season) for a rotation piece like Snell or Galloway.

This team is fun. They are scrappy and capable. I would love to see them make the playoffs.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#123 » by Balkman32 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:06 pm

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zaymon wrote:Hey guys, would you be interested in Aaron Gordon ? I was thinking Gallo + DEN 2020 1st or MIA 2023 1st. Thoughts ? Maybe some other ideas. thanks

I wouldn’t do it. We want to get assets for Gallo not
use them to get players like Gordon. Gordon is worth more than Gallo but I’ve given up the notion he is going to make an all star leap. He’s a nice piece on a win now team but not so elite that I want to have him as a part of the future. Best case scenario is he is flipped for more assets. That the leaves okc trying to recoup assets they gave to acquire him. It makes no sense to me.


Gordon is an asset. He is 24 years old, he has 3 years $55 million left on his contract, in the final year he is only making $16 million. Maybe there is a better deal out there for Gallo. But, I think that Denver pick is probably #24 at best. I’d trust the Thunder into making him a very good player with their development skills.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#124 » by ThunderBolt » Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:15 pm

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zaymon wrote:Hey guys, would you be interested in Aaron Gordon ? I was thinking Gallo + DEN 2020 1st or MIA 2023 1st. Thoughts ? Maybe some other ideas. thanks

I wouldn’t do it. We want to get assets for Gallo not
use them to get players like Gordon. Gordon is worth more than Gallo but I’ve given up the notion he is going to make an all star leap. He’s a nice piece on a win now team but not so elite that I want to have him as a part of the future. Best case scenario is he is flipped for more assets. That the leaves okc trying to recoup assets they gave to acquire him. It makes no sense to me.


Gordon is an asset. He is 24 years old, he has 3 years $55 million left on his contract, in the final year he is only making $16 million. Maybe there is a better deal out there for Gallo. But, I think that Denver pick is probably #24 at best. I’d trust the Thunder into making him a very good player with their development skills.

A good player by when? Twenty seven years old? Hes been in the league not enough that its realistic to say he is what he is and not much more. Gordon is a nice piece to a contender but he's going to be paired with guys that are 20 years old. We're giving up two assets for a guy that doesn't move the needle for us. No thanks.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#125 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:15 pm

I'm fine with OKC willing to take bad salaries. We will need to move at least Gallo and Adams or Schroeder before that though.

And if we are rebuilding let's start losing games!!!

Adams to the Hawks makes sense. Hawks didn't have to wait December 15th to trade Parsons or Turner though so not sure if it will happen.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#126 » by Balkman32 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 8:55 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:I wouldn’t do it. We want to get assets for Gallo not
use them to get players like Gordon. Gordon is worth more than Gallo but I’ve given up the notion he is going to make an all star leap. He’s a nice piece on a win now team but not so elite that I want to have him as a part of the future. Best case scenario is he is flipped for more assets. That the leaves okc trying to recoup assets they gave to acquire him. It makes no sense to me.


Gordon is an asset. He is 24 years old, he has 3 years $55 million left on his contract, in the final year he is only making $16 million. Maybe there is a better deal out there for Gallo. But, I think that Denver pick is probably #24 at best. I’d trust the Thunder into making him a very good player with their development skills.

A good player by when? Twenty seven years old? Hes been in the league not enough that its realistic to say he is what he is and not much more. Gordon is a nice piece to a contender but he's going to be paired with guys that are 20 years old. We're giving up two assets for a guy that doesn't move the needle for us. No thanks.


The Magic have played him at the 3. They really aren’t doing him any favors. If he was to come into this culture I think he could excel. A nice piece on a contender is a future trade asset. I doN’t think he will be the starting PF in the Thunder in 2025 when they are in the finals. But, if the best offer you are getting for Gallo is a pick from a contender why not bet on your development.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#127 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 10:10 pm

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Gordon is an asset. He is 24 years old, he has 3 years $55 million left on his contract, in the final year he is only making $16 million. Maybe there is a better deal out there for Gallo. But, I think that Denver pick is probably #24 at best. I’d trust the Thunder into making him a very good player with their development skills.

A good player by when? Twenty seven years old? Hes been in the league not enough that its realistic to say he is what he is and not much more. Gordon is a nice piece to a contender but he's going to be paired with guys that are 20 years old. We're giving up two assets for a guy that doesn't move the needle for us. No thanks.


The Magic have played him at the 3. They really aren’t doing him any favors. If he was to come into this culture I think he could excel. A nice piece on a contender is a future trade asset. I doN’t think he will be the starting PF in the Thunder in 2025 when they are in the finals. But, if the best offer you are getting for Gallo is a pick from a contender why not bet on your development.


Best case scenario with Gordon is that you will trade him for a FRP, so yeah better to get the same return for an expiring like Gallo.

An healthy Gallo has more value for a contender than Gordon in my opinion.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#128 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 10:25 pm

What would you want to get in order to accept a CP3/Wall trade? 2 FRP? (including 2020 Washington FRP)
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Post#129 » by Balkman32 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 11:06 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:What would you want to get in order to accept a CP3/Wall trade? 2 FRP? (including 2020 Washington FRP)


I think it’s 3 unprotected FRP. No one else would take on that contract. CP3 would get them to the playoffs this year.

I would want Unprotected in 22 and 23, if that’s not on the table this isn’t gonna work. If 3 is too many maybe add a couple of pick swaps to make it work for everyone.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#130 » by Balkman32 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 11:09 pm

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ThunderBolt wrote:A good player by when? Twenty seven years old? Hes been in the league not enough that its realistic to say he is what he is and not much more. Gordon is a nice piece to a contender but he's going to be paired with guys that are 20 years old. We're giving up two assets for a guy that doesn't move the needle for us. No thanks.


The Magic have played him at the 3. They really aren’t doing him any favors. If he was to come into this culture I think he could excel. A nice piece on a contender is a future trade asset. I doN’t think he will be the starting PF in the Thunder in 2025 when they are in the finals. But, if the best offer you are getting for Gallo is a pick from a contender why not bet on your development.


Best case scenario with Gordon is that you will trade him for a FRP, so yeah better to get the same return for an expiring like Gallo.

An healthy Gallo has more value for a contender than Gordon in my opinion.


I think you would get multiple FRP for Gordon. But, I do agree that there are probably better deals out there for Gallo.

I am really just enjoying this team and I am not ready to move into full tank mode. We have 15 FRP in the next 7 years. How many more can we get.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#131 » by Dadouv47 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 11:14 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:What would you want to get in order to accept a CP3/Wall trade? 2 FRP? (including 2020 Washington FRP)


I think it’s 3 unprotected FRP. No one else would take on that contract. CP3 would get them to the playoffs this year.

I would want Unprotected in 22 and 23, if that’s not on the table this isn’t gonna work. If 3 is too many maybe add a couple of pick swaps to make it work for everyone.


CP3 & Noel (if he agrees) for Wall, Hachimura and their 2020 FRP. Don't think Washington would do this though.
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Post#132 » by Balkman32 » Mon Dec 9, 2019 11:41 pm

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Dadouv47 wrote:What would you want to get in order to accept a CP3/Wall trade? 2 FRP? (including 2020 Washington FRP)


I think it’s 3 unprotected FRP. No one else would take on that contract. CP3 would get them to the playoffs this year.

I would want Unprotected in 22 and 23, if that’s not on the table this isn’t gonna work. If 3 is too many maybe add a couple of pick swaps to make it work for everyone.


CP3 & Noel (if he agrees) for Wall, Hachimura and their 2020 FRP. Don't think Washington would do this though.


This deal would put the Thunder deeper into the tax. I just don’t see them trading for Wall and that contract.

How do you sell Mr. Bennett on spending an extra $48 million in 22-23 for a 2020 FRP (won’t be in the lottery) and Hachimura (unless you think this guy is the real deal)?
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#133 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 1:20 pm

CP3 playing really well lately but still have negative trade value because of that terrible contract :(

Guess we will need some luck...hoping for a team like Utah to gamble on a CP3/Conley swap. Don't think they will do it right now though because they are far from contending. If they improve, maybe.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#134 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 4:39 pm

Wasn't NBA Central one of those who called Westbrook to the Rockets as almost done? If yes then we are screwed :)

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Post#135 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:41 pm

Dadouv47 wrote:Wasn't NBA Central one of those who called Westbrook to the Rockets as almost done? If yes then we are screwed :)

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This year is too wide open for teams not to go for it. We might have seen Gallo play his final game in OKC.
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Re: 2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread 

Post#136 » by Dadouv47 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 5:53 pm

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This year is too wide open for teams not to go for it. We might have seen Gallo play his final game in OKC.


I feel like it's not as wide open as it was supposed to be. Lakers and Clippers clearly above the rest of the field in my opinion.

But yeah everything can happen with one injury (not like the other years when you needed a multiple of bad events for GSW to lose).

Agree that we might have seen Gallo's final game with OKC. We will know very soon...
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Post#137 » by ThunderBolt » Tue Dec 10, 2019 6:22 pm

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Post#138 » by Dn4sty » Tue Dec 10, 2019 7:26 pm

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Post#140 » by Balkman32 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm

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I am sure that there is motivation to make the playoffs in the locker room.

We shall see if Sam let’s them play it out. Gallo can be used as a sign and trade at the end of the year or the Thunder could re-sign him if they wanted to. He is the only guy that’s expiring.

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