Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[Fencer reregistered]

Some guys that fit at or below Kanter's contract and are playing for teams out of contention:

- Reggie Bullock
- Kevon Looney
- Cedi Osman
- Dillon Brooks
- Malik Monk
- Willy Hernangomez

I would call GSW and kick the tires on Looney. He clearly can contribute as a big in the brightest moments. Health is definitely a concern but set that aside, he fits a lot of what we would need at C to pair with Theis and Timelord.

Let's see how Kanter does vs. Embiid Thursday night. If it turns out he can defend him reasonably effectively, then trading him except for another bulky big would be madness. And even if that doesn't work out, Kanter is a high-quality cheap reserve, if we note that cheap reserves who have great strengths are expected to also have serious flaws.

[GoGreen]

Some guys that fit at or below Kanter's contract and are playing for teams out of contention:

- Reggie Bullock
- Kevon Looney
- Cedi Osman
- Dillon Brooks
- Malik Monk
- Willy Hernangomez

I would call GSW and kick the tires on Looney. He clearly can contribute as a big in the brightest moments. Health is definitely a concern but set that aside, he fits a lot of what we would need at C to pair with Theis and Timelord.

Let's see how Kanter does vs. Embiid Thursday night. If it turns out he can defend him reasonably effectively, then trading him except for another bulky big would be madness. And even if that doesn't work out, Kanter is a high-quality cheap reserve, if we note that cheap reserves who have great strengths are expected to also have serious flaws.

Pretty much this. I really do like Looney, though. However, without Kanter we'll have a serious problem with size.

That said, what do we have that we'd a) be willing to give up, and b) gsw would take? I suppose the Bucks pick, but idk if Danny would trade a pick for a roleplayer.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Any interest in Thaddeus Young? He doesn't seem to be working out in Chicago, and he's had some luck against Giannis in the past. He'd basically be an upgrade over Ojeleye and Grant Williams. Also, he's owed $13.5 million next year, so they could use his bigger contract in a future trade...

Kanter, Poirier and Edwards for Young works in the trade checker. Although I'm not sure if Young > Kanter. It seems Boston can use Theis and R. Williams at center though..

If he's shown aptitude at guarding Giannis, he's obviously useful. The $13.5M salary is appealing for trade purposes. Theis is a superior defender but inferior rebounder, and he can't punish teams for leaving him unaccounted for like Young. I'd consider it.

I think that offensive upside in an good enough defender/rebounder is what you're chasing. A lineup where all 5 guys can attack a closeout and score, with a big man on the court still.

The only problem with this idea is that Kanter is your token big guy. And Poirier is your other big dude even if he's just a body with fouls to give. SO you're committing to not having a guy who can bang with Embiid at all.

Good point about Kanter vs. Embiid, but seems Milw, LAL & LAC are the teams to beat, and can't see Kanter being that effective against any of those teams...

[zoyathedestroya]

Any interest in Thaddeus Young? He doesn't seem to be working out in Chicago, and he's had some luck against Giannis in the past. He'd basically be an upgrade over Ojeleye and Grant Williams. Also, he's owed $13.5 million next year, so they could use his bigger contract in a future trade...

Kanter, Poirier and Edwards for Young works in the trade checker. Although I'm not sure if Young > Kanter. It seems Boston can use Theis and R. Williams at center though..

If he's shown aptitude at guarding Giannis, he's obviously useful. The $13.5M salary is appealing for trade purposes. Theis is a superior defender but inferior rebounder, and he can't punish teams for leaving him unaccounted for like Young. I'd consider it.

I think that offensive upside in an good enough defender/rebounder is what you're chasing. A lineup where all 5 guys can attack a closeout and score, with a big man on the court still.

The only problem with this idea is that Kanter is your token big guy. And Poirier is your other big dude even if he's just a body with fouls to give. SO you're committing to not having a guy who can bang with Embiid at all.

Bogut or Gortat. What are they doing around March?

[Fencer reregistered]

Any interest in Thaddeus Young? He doesn't seem to be working out in Chicago, and he's had some luck against Giannis in the past. He'd basically be an upgrade over Ojeleye and Grant Williams. Also, he's owed $13.5 million next year, so they could use his bigger contract in a future trade...

Kanter, Poirier and Edwards for Young works in the trade checker. Although I'm not sure if Young > Kanter. It seems Boston can use Theis and R. Williams at center though..

If he's shown aptitude at guarding Giannis, he's obviously useful. The $13.5M salary is appealing for trade purposes. Theis is a superior defender but inferior rebounder, and he can't punish teams for leaving him unaccounted for like Young. I'd consider it.

I think that offensive upside in an good enough defender/rebounder is what you're chasing. A lineup where all 5 guys can attack a closeout and score, with a big man on the court still.

The only problem with this idea is that Kanter is your token big guy. And Poirier is your other big dude even if he's just a body with fouls to give. SO you're committing to not having a guy who can bang with Embiid at all.

Good point about Kanter vs. Embiid, but seems Milw, LAL & LAC are the teams to beat, and can't see Kanter being that effective against any of those teams...

How is Kanter at implicit transition defense? The theory would be that the presence of a strong offensive rebounder would slow down opposing teams' transition attacks, especially on teams like LA, which has a penchant for having AD leak out and leave the rebounding to colleagues.

Are modern stats adequate to address that?

[FutureIsGreen]

For the first time in decades, I've got nothing. No wants at all. And I LOVE playing armchair GM. This feels awesome.

[The Corey's]

Get a **** center who can rebound. Like **** yesterday

[jonige94]

Get Bertans from the Wizards and a decent big who can rebound

[djFan71]

Semi and/or Grant moves for a vet:

Semi, 2nd for Markieff?
Grant, Semi, MIL 20 for Richaun?
Grant, Semi, for Ed Davis, 2nd? or Jeff Green?

[SmartWentCrazy]

Heard it suggested on the Game Theory podcast, but we should absolutely be trying to trade for Pöltl. Im not sure how he fits there long term after picking Šamanić and receiving no extension.

Wonder if Kanter and a first would get it done.

[Green89]

Get Bertans from the Wizards and a decent big who can rebound

Bertans off the bench would be huge. No more scoring lulls. Will the Wiz part with him, though?

[red96]

Get a **** center who can rebound. Like **** yesterday

What would you guys give for Capela? He's doing 14ppg &15rpg.He also runs the court all game, good paint D, good shot blocker, 25 years old, contract locked-in on the best non-rookie scale deal for a 5 in the league (at right under $15M this season)

Would y'all do Smart, Kanter, and a 1st rounder

[djFan71]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256445/Warriors-Could-Look-To-Shed-Salary-By-Deadline-To-Avoid-Repeater-Tax
I'd be all over Looney. Poirier/Edwards for Looney and WCS saves them almost $3M, which isn't enough.
But, send those two (or any combo of our lower guys) to a team with cap space and add MIL pick and a second and you could be in business. No idea who that other team is...

[djFan71]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256445/Warriors-Could-Look-To-Shed-Salary-By-Deadline-To-Avoid-Repeater-Tax
I'd be all over Looney. Poirier/Edwards for Looney and WCS saves them almost $3M, which isn't enough.
But, send those two (or any combo of our lower guys) to a team with cap space and add MIL pick and a second and you could be in business. No idea who that other team is...

ATL seems to work.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=sl8xtlb
(Had to add other guys to total Looney's $4.4M for now)

ATL: 2nd for Poirier, Edwards, MIL first
BOS: Poirier, Edwards, MIL first for Looney, WCS
GSW: Looney, WCS for ATL 2nd, ducking tax.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Get a **** center who can rebound. Like **** yesterday

What would you guys give for Capela? He's doing 14ppg &15rpg.He also runs the court all game, good paint D, good shot blocker, 25 years old, contract locked-in on the best non-rookie scale deal for a 5 in the league (at right under $15M this season)

Would y'all do Smart, Kanter, and a 1st rounder

We wouldnt trade Smart for him.

We know you’d demand him and its why were not good trading partners.

[Fencer reregistered]

Get a **** center who can rebound. Like **** yesterday

What would you guys give for Capela? He's doing 14ppg &15rpg.He also runs the court all game, good paint D, good shot blocker, 25 years old, contract locked-in on the best non-rookie scale deal for a 5 in the league (at right under $15M this season)

Would y'all do Smart, Kanter, and a 1st rounder

I'm not sure we'd do that if the first rounder were going in the other direction.

[GoGreen]

Rockets are contenders right now. Idk if they'd even be interested in trading Clint.

Poltl, Looney, these are the types we should be eyeing, I think. Would love if there was some bench scoring avbl.

[djFan71]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256445/Warriors-Could-Look-To-Shed-Salary-By-Deadline-To-Avoid-Repeater-Tax
I'd be all over Looney. Poirier/Edwards for Looney and WCS saves them almost $3M, which isn't enough.
But, send those two (or any combo of our lower guys) to a team with cap space and add MIL pick and a second and you could be in business. No idea who that other team is...

ATL seems to work.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=sl8xtlb
(Had to add other guys to total Looney's $4.4M for now)

ATL: 2nd for Poirier, Edwards, MIL first
BOS: Poirier, Edwards, MIL first for Looney, WCS
GSW: Looney, WCS for ATL 2nd, ducking tax.

A better version might be:

ATL: Vince, 2nd for Poirier, Grant, MIL first
BOS: Poirier, Grant, MIL first for Looney, WCS, Vince
GSW: Looney, WCS for ATL 2nd, ducking tax.

We'd have to waive Javonte, but this saves ATL from having to waive 2 guys, now they only need to do one.
ATL gets Grant and a FRP and a flier on Poirier for Vince and a 2nd.
For BOS, Looney upgrades Grant, WCS upgrades Poirier, Vince upgrades Green. So, sending out Grant/MIL pick is fine. I'd probably even send a 2nd to GSW as well.
GSW gets under the tax, and one or two 2nds


We'd have:

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Theis
Smart, Wanamaker, Semi, Looney, Kanter
Edwards, Vince, Romeo, Timelord, WCS

Hopefully Romeo could replace Semi eventually.
But you could probably do something with Kanter/extra to get another wing/shooter and free up that time for Timelord and/or WCS.

[djFan71]

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/256445/Warriors-Could-Look-To-Shed-Salary-By-Deadline-To-Avoid-Repeater-Tax
I'd be all over Looney. Poirier/Edwards for Looney and WCS saves them almost $3M, which isn't enough.
But, send those two (or any combo of our lower guys) to a team with cap space and add MIL pick and a second and you could be in business. No idea who that other team is...

ATL seems to work.
http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=sl8xtlb
(Had to add other guys to total Looney's $4.4M for now)

ATL: 2nd for Poirier, Edwards, MIL first
BOS: Poirier, Edwards, MIL first for Looney, WCS
GSW: Looney, WCS for ATL 2nd, ducking tax.

A better version might be:

ATL: Vince, 2nd for Poirier, Grant, MIL first
BOS: Poirier, Grant, MIL first for Looney, WCS, Vince
GSW: Looney, WCS for ATL 2nd, ducking tax.

We'd have to waive Javonte, but this saves ATL from having to waive 2 guys, now they only need to do one.
ATL gets Grant and a FRP and a flier on Poirier for Vince and a 2nd.
For BOS, Looney upgrades Grant, WCS upgrades Poirier, Vince upgrades Green. So, sending out Grant/MIL pick is fine. I'd probably even send a 2nd to GSW as well.
GSW gets under the tax, and one or two 2nds


We'd have:

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Theis
Smart, Wanamaker, Semi, Looney, Kanter
Edwards, Vince, Romeo, Timelord, WCS

Hopefully Romeo could replace Semi eventually.
But you could probably do something with Kanter/extra to get another wing/shooter and free up that time for Timelord and/or WCS.

Ship Kanter to WAS for CJ Miles/ Include Javonte if they want him, or we gotta waive him. Saves WAS money either way.

Kemba, Brown, Tatum, Hayward, Theis
Smart, Wanamaker, Miles, Looney, Timelord
Edwards, Romeo, Vince, Semi, WCS

That team's pretty darn good. You got some vets, but mostly young guys that are under contract. You don't have guys you're scared about putting in. Shortened rotation in the playoffs is really solid.

[red96]

Rockets are contenders right now. Idk if they'd even be interested in trading Clint.

Poltl, Looney, these are the types we should be eyeing, I think. Would love if there was some bench scoring avbl.

They wouldn't for this package. It would go elsewhere.