2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 1)

[HEZI]

Imo he’s the guy.


1/ Edwards
2/nico
3/cry

3-20 from field
1-10 from 3
2 Rebounds
10 Assists
7 Points

Loss to Gonzaga

I like Nico but he aint better than Cole, sorry folks

10 assists though. What Cole doing when he cant score? He has a combined 4 assists and 9 turnovers in the past 2 games. Nico got a combined 21 assists and just 5 turnovers.

One guy plays with shooters the other guy plays with scrubs. The best player Cole plays with is a post big who aint even that good and the next best player after that is another post big. UNC style of offense is straight trash.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/12/arizona-wildcats

Imagine Cole playing with Josh Green, Dylan Smith, Jemari Baker, Max Hazzard

Arizona shooters look like this:

Nico Mannion ( 21 made / 58 attempted / 36%)
Dylan Smith ( 21 made / 49 attempted / 43%)
Jemari Baker (19 made / 40 attempted / 47%)
Josh Green (12 made / 37 attempted / 32%)
Max Hazzard (13 made / 36 attempted / 36%)

UNC shooters look like this

Cole Anthony (22 made / 62 attempted / 35%)
Justin Pierce (7 made / 28 attempted / 25%)
Brandon Robinson (7 made / 24 attempted / 29%)
Christian Keeling (4 made / 19 attempted / 21%)
Andrew Platek (3 made / 19 attempted / 16%)
Leaky Black (4 made / 11 attempted / 36%)

Spoiler:

[3toheadmelo]

3-20 from field
1-10 from 3
2 Rebounds
10 Assists
7 Points

Loss to Gonzaga

I like Nico but he aint better than Cole, sorry folks

10 assists though. What Cole doing when he cant score? He has a combined 4 assists and 9 turnovers in the past 2 games. Nico got a combined 21 assists and just 5 turnovers.

One guy plays with shooters the other guy plays with scrubs. The best player Cole plays with is a post big who aint even that good and the next best player after that is another post big. UNC style of offense is straight trash.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/12/arizona-wildcats

Imagine Cole playing with Josh Green, Dylan Smith, Jemari Baker, Max Hazzard

Arizona shooters look like this:

Nico Mannion ( 21 made / 58 attempted / 36%)
Dylan Smith ( 21 made / 49 attempted / 43%)
Jemari Baker (19 made / 40 attempted / 47%)
Josh Green (12 made / 37 attempted / 32%)
Max Hazzard (13 made / 36 attempted / 36%)

UNC shooters look like this

Cole Anthony (22 made / 62 attempted / 35%)
Justin Pierce (7 made / 28 attempted / 25%)
Brandon Robinson (7 made / 24 attempted / 29%)
Christian Keeling (4 made / 19 attempted / 21%)
Andrew Platek (3 made / 19 attempted / 16%)
Leaky Black (4 made / 11 attempted / 36%)

Spoiler:

My guy, Ja Morant played with total scrubs last year and averaged double digit assists. Trae Young also averaged 8.7 assists with no talent around him. Cole Anthony is really just a small shooting guard. He even worse than DSJ. DSJ led the ACC in assists with garbage around him. Cole got potential to be a solid player but the reality is that he sucks right now and that's mainly on him

[HEZI]

10 assists though. What Cole doing when he cant score? He has a combined 4 assists and 9 turnovers in the past 2 games. Nico got a combined 21 assists and just 5 turnovers.

One guy plays with shooters the other guy plays with scrubs. The best player Cole plays with is a post big who aint even that good and the next best player after that is another post big. UNC style of offense is straight trash.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/12/arizona-wildcats

Imagine Cole playing with Josh Green, Dylan Smith, Jemari Baker, Max Hazzard

Arizona shooters look like this:

Nico Mannion ( 21 made / 58 attempted / 36%)
Dylan Smith ( 21 made / 49 attempted / 43%)
Jemari Baker (19 made / 40 attempted / 47%)
Josh Green (12 made / 37 attempted / 32%)
Max Hazzard (13 made / 36 attempted / 36%)

UNC shooters look like this

Cole Anthony (22 made / 62 attempted / 35%)
Justin Pierce (7 made / 28 attempted / 25%)
Brandon Robinson (7 made / 24 attempted / 29%)
Christian Keeling (4 made / 19 attempted / 21%)
Andrew Platek (3 made / 19 attempted / 16%)
Leaky Black (4 made / 11 attempted / 36%)

Spoiler:

My guy, Ja Morant played with total scrubs last year and averaged double digit assists. Trae Young also averaged 8.7 assists with no talent around him. Cole Anthony is really just a small shooting guard. He even worse than DSJ. DSJ led the ACC in assists with garbage around him. Cole got potential to be a solid player but the reality is that he sucks right now and that's mainly on him

Nonsense. None of those guys played in the type of offense Cole plays in. They all played in a spread out offense. Do you watch UNC? Like honestly, have you even watched one game yet? They play inside the 3 point line, they got no shooters besides Cole, like none at all! That's why their offense is so horrible, there is no spacing. Trae played with scrubs but at least he had somewhat respectable shooters when compared to the UNC guys and their team knew how to space the floor. Same goes for Ja. This UNC squad isn't just bad at shooting but they clog the interior and feature big men who aren't even good. There are limited driving lanes, limited kick out options, yet Cole is still out there carrying them night in night out, which is super impressive considering that garbage structure he's playing in.

Listen, when he gets to the league don't talk to me about being surprised at how different he looks, I'm telling you all this now so you know what to expect

[3toheadmelo]

One guy plays with shooters the other guy plays with scrubs. The best player Cole plays with is a post big who aint even that good and the next best player after that is another post big. UNC style of offense is straight trash.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/team/stats/_/id/12/arizona-wildcats

Imagine Cole playing with Josh Green, Dylan Smith, Jemari Baker, Max Hazzard

Arizona shooters look like this:

Nico Mannion ( 21 made / 58 attempted / 36%)
Dylan Smith ( 21 made / 49 attempted / 43%)
Jemari Baker (19 made / 40 attempted / 47%)
Josh Green (12 made / 37 attempted / 32%)
Max Hazzard (13 made / 36 attempted / 36%)

UNC shooters look like this

Cole Anthony (22 made / 62 attempted / 35%)
Justin Pierce (7 made / 28 attempted / 25%)
Brandon Robinson (7 made / 24 attempted / 29%)
Christian Keeling (4 made / 19 attempted / 21%)
Andrew Platek (3 made / 19 attempted / 16%)
Leaky Black (4 made / 11 attempted / 36%)

Spoiler:

My guy, Ja Morant played with total scrubs last year and averaged double digit assists. Trae Young also averaged 8.7 assists with no talent around him. Cole Anthony is really just a small shooting guard. He even worse than DSJ. DSJ led the ACC in assists with garbage around him. Cole got potential to be a solid player but the reality is that he sucks right now and that's mainly on him

Nonsense. None of those guys played in the type of offense Cole plays in. They all played in a spread out offense. Do you watch UNC? Like honestly, have you even watched one game yet? They play inside the 3 point line, they got no shooters besides Cole, like none at all! That's why their offense is so horrible, there is no spacing. Trae played with scrubs but at least he had somewhat respectable shooters when compared to the UNC guys and their team knew how to space the floor. Same goes for Ja. This UNC squad isn't just bad at shooting but they clog the interior and feature big men who aren't even good. There are limited driving lanes, limited kick out options, yet Cole is still out there carrying them night in night out, which is super impressive considering that garbage structure he's playing in.

Listen, when he gets to the league don't talk to me about being surprised at how different he looks, I'm telling you all this now so you know what to expect

Man you out here talking like you Negrodramus.

Of course I seen UNC games. This dude is a minature shooting guard that can't even shoot. You just making up a bunch of excuses for him. He was never a good playmaker in high school either.

And no, he ain't carrying nobody either. He killing his team. He shooting 36% from the field

[HEZI]

My guy, Ja Morant played with total scrubs last year and averaged double digit assists. Trae Young also averaged 8.7 assists with no talent around him. Cole Anthony is really just a small shooting guard. He even worse than DSJ. DSJ led the ACC in assists with garbage around him. Cole got potential to be a solid player but the reality is that he sucks right now and that's mainly on him

Nonsense. None of those guys played in the type of offense Cole plays in. They all played in a spread out offense. Do you watch UNC? Like honestly, have you even watched one game yet? They play inside the 3 point line, they got no shooters besides Cole, like none at all! That's why their offense is so horrible, there is no spacing. Trae played with scrubs but at least he had somewhat respectable shooters when compared to the UNC guys and their team knew how to space the floor. Same goes for Ja. This UNC squad isn't just bad at shooting but they clog the interior and feature big men who aren't even good. There are limited driving lanes, limited kick out options, yet Cole is still out there carrying them night in night out, which is super impressive considering that garbage structure he's playing in.

Listen, when he gets to the league don't talk to me about being surprised at how different he looks, I'm telling you all this now so you know what to expect

Man you out here talking like you Negrodramus.

Of course I seen UNC games. This dude is a minature shooting guard that can't even shoot. You just making up a bunch of excuses for him. He was never a good playmaker in high school either.

And no, he ain't carrying nobody either. He killing his team. He shooting 36% from the field

Classic melo response.

Your boy shot 3-20 yesterday

3-20

3-20

3-20

Oh yeah, he had 10 assists and still took an L though so everything is gravy

But his team lost because 3-20

Yo, 3-20

That's crazy

3-20 for 7 points

[3toheadmelo]

Nonsense. None of those guys played in the type of offense Cole plays in. They all played in a spread out offense. Do you watch UNC? Like honestly, have you even watched one game yet? They play inside the 3 point line, they got no shooters besides Cole, like none at all! That's why their offense is so horrible, there is no spacing. Trae played with scrubs but at least he had somewhat respectable shooters when compared to the UNC guys and their team knew how to space the floor. Same goes for Ja. This UNC squad isn't just bad at shooting but they clog the interior and feature big men who aren't even good. There are limited driving lanes, limited kick out options, yet Cole is still out there carrying them night in night out, which is super impressive considering that garbage structure he's playing in.

Listen, when he gets to the league don't talk to me about being surprised at how different he looks, I'm telling you all this now so you know what to expect

Man you out here talking like you Negrodramus.

Of course I seen UNC games. This dude is a minature shooting guard that can't even shoot. You just making up a bunch of excuses for him. He was never a good playmaker in high school either.

And no, he ain't carrying nobody either. He killing his team. He shooting 36% from the field

Classic melo response.

Your boy shot 3-20 yesterday

3-20

3-20

3-20

Oh yeah, he had 10 assists and still took an L though so everything is gravy

But his team lost because 3-20

Yo, 3-20

That's crazy

3-20 for 7 points

It's all gravy tho he gonna look better once he get in the league. Lmfao

Read on Twitter

Your boy got clamped up by a 5'9 guy. I don't wanna hear it from you no more

Read on Twitter

[HEZI]

This is all I see right now

3-20



Imagine if he played for UNC what that would look like oof

[3toheadmelo]

This is all I see right now

3-20



Imagine if he played for UNC what that would look like oof

I think Nico would at least have one assist unlike Anthony

[HEZI]

This is all I see right now

3-20



Imagine if he played for UNC what that would look like oof

I think Nico would at least have one assist unlike Anthony

1 assists but still 3-20 so its all good



T-H-R-E-E for T-W-E-N-T-Y

[3toheadmelo]

This is all I see right now

3-20



Imagine if he played for UNC what that would look like oof

I think Nico would at least have one assist unlike Anthony

1 assists but still 3-20 so its all good



T-H-R-E-E for T-W-E-N-T-Y

You keep repeating 3-20 like that is worse than going 4-15 BACK TO BACK with a combined 4 assists and 9 turnovers and also getting outplayed by a 5'9 guy in the process

[robillionaire]

Cole
raw PPG
better rebounder
better defense, blocks, steals
better at drawing fouls
low efficiency shooter, low FT%, averages more turnovers than assists

Nico
Better shooting percentages across the board, 3pt, FG% and FT.
better passer
higher PER and offensive win shares than cole
less turnovers
he's a year younger

Ultimately I think I'd still go with Cole because he's a better defensive player so you could hope he has the best chance to be a 2 way scorer and defender. I don't think Nico is going to be good on D so I think there's a better chance that Cole irons out his offense and shooting efficiency. but I can see the argument for Nico on the Knicks since this team is a terrible offensive team and definitely needs shooting and ball movement.

short version, Cole's strengths appear to be defense and rebounding and Nico is his assists and we hope 3pt shooting although right now he is 36.2% and Cole is 35.5% so it might be a wash

[robillionaire]

low key halliburton might be putting up better stats than both of them

[HEZI]

I think Nico would at least have one assist unlike Anthony

1 assists but still 3-20 so its all good



T-H-R-E-E for T-W-E-N-T-Y

You keep repeating 3-20 like that is worse than going 4-15 BACK TO BACK with a combined 4 assists and 9 turnovers and also getting outplayed by a 5'9 guy in the process

Nah, you actually trying to justify 3-20 with some assists numbers like it matters, that's the funny part. They took an L because 3-20 so just deal with it

[3toheadmelo]

Cole
raw PPG
better rebounder
better defense, blocks, steals
better at drawing fouls
low efficiency shooter, low FT%, averages more turnovers than assists

Nico
Better shooting percentages across the board, 3pt, FG% and FT.
better passer
higher PER and offensive win shares than cole
less turnovers
he's a year younger

Ultimately I think I'd still go with Cole because he's a better defensive player so you could hope he has the best chance to be a 2 way scorer and defender. I don't think Nico is going to be good on D so I think there's a better chance that Cole irons out his offense and shooting efficiency. but I can see the argument for Nico on the Knicks since this team is a terrible offensive team and definitely needs shooting and ball movement.

short version, Cole's strengths appear to be defense and rebounding and Nico is his assists and we hope 3pt shooting although right now he is 36.2% and Cole is 35.5% so it might be a wash

Cole not even that good on defense either. He can't fight over screens like DSJ. He's gonna be a liability in the league with that size.

[robillionaire]

http://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=cole-anthony--tyrese-haliburton--nico-mannion

[3toheadmelo]

1 assists but still 3-20 so its all good



T-H-R-E-E for T-W-E-N-T-Y

You keep repeating 3-20 like that is worse than going 4-15 BACK TO BACK with a combined 4 assists and 9 turnovers and also getting outplayed by a 5'9 guy in the process

Nah, you actually trying to justify 3-20 with some assists numbers like it matters, that's the funny part. They took an L because 3-20 so just deal with it

Nah I am just pointing out that Nico can affect the game when his shot isnt falling unlike Cole Anthony. Cole Anthony is just a midget shooting guard. That's reality.

[HEZI]

You keep repeating 3-20 like that is worse than going 4-15 BACK TO BACK with a combined 4 assists and 9 turnovers and also getting outplayed by a 5'9 guy in the process

Nah, you actually trying to justify 3-20 with some assists numbers like it matters, that's the funny part. They took an L because 3-20 so just deal with it

Nah I am just pointing out that Nico can affect the game when his shot isnt falling unlike Cole Anthony. Cole Anthony is just a midget shooting guard. That's reality.

He sure affected the game yesterday losing by 10

You talking about a guy affecting his team when his shot isn't falling but Cole is leading his team in Points / Assists / Steals / 3 points made and attempted / Free Throws made and attempted. Third on the team in Rebounds per game and Fourth on the team in blocks per game.

FOH

[HEZI]

Nico is just another Luke Ridnour

Deal with it

He's gonna be a solid NBA backup but that's it

[3toheadmelo]

Nah, you actually trying to justify 3-20 with some assists numbers like it matters, that's the funny part. They took an L because 3-20 so just deal with it

Nah I am just pointing out that Nico can affect the game when his shot isnt falling unlike Cole Anthony. Cole Anthony is just a midget shooting guard. That's reality.

He sure affected the game yesterday losing by 10

You talking about a guy affecting his team when his shot isn't falling but Cole is leading his team in Points / Assists / Steals / 3 points made and attempted / Free Throws made and attempted. Third on the team in Rebounds per game and Fourth on the team in blocks per game.

FOH

Lol "4th on the team in blocks" . Who says garbage like that? See thats how you know you running out of excuses for him. L for you sir

[HEZI]

Nah I am just pointing out that Nico can affect the game when his shot isnt falling unlike Cole Anthony. Cole Anthony is just a midget shooting guard. That's reality.

He sure affected the game yesterday losing by 10

You talking about a guy affecting his team when his shot isn't falling but Cole is leading his team in Points / Assists / Steals / 3 points made and attempted / Free Throws made and attempted. Third on the team in Rebounds per game and Fourth on the team in blocks per game.

FOH

Lol "4th on the team in blocks" . Who says garbage like that? See thats how you know you running out of excuses for him. L for you sir

He plays PG. Is he supposed to lead them in blocks too?

Don't be mad because Nico doesn't even have 1 block in his entire NCAA career. He's played 12 games and 0 blocks and 12 steals. Cole has played 9 games and has 17 steals and 4 blocks.

Don't be mad. Take your Ls like a man. You want us to use our pick on the next Luke Ridnour as if that's going to help us much.