Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[MagicBagley18]

I don't think Harden is the next big fish.

Jokic, KAT... then Giannis. Maybe Beal in there as well.

Beal will always be the ‘Ray Allen’ and never be the ‘Kevin Garnett’. He has zero chance of being a top 5 player and would be incredibly disappointing if we cashed in al our chips for.

Giannis is still the guy were hoping for. KAT is in year 1 of a 5 year extension and wont be traded for a while. Jokic is more interesting, but his prone-ness for just being apathetic is concerning. I guess thats why he’d be hypothetically available.

Do we really want to trade Brown and Tatum for Giannis if he has a chance to leave as a free agent? My cousin hangs out with a couple of guys who work for the Raptors, and they said that Masai was pretty confident about signing him. And FWIW, ever since the rumors came out about the Knicks pursuing him, Masai has since become a tad less committed about his future in Toronto.

Granted, I don't know how legit my cousin's friends are, but if they are being truthful, then I think Masai ends up where ever Giannis decides he wants to go to. As bad as that organization is, Masai is probably confident enough that he can turn that thing around. Would be a hell of a lot easier trying to convince players to sign with the Knicks than it would be with Toronto, IMO.

I’d bet with pretty great confidence that giannis signs that extension this summer and it will be the largest in nba history. Bucks will be in the ECF this year at the minimum. He is 3-4 years away from being done or fed up with milwaukee ownership. when’s he’s 27-28 he’ll be available either demanding a trade. We are a ways away from that right now.

[celticfan42487]

Beal will always be the ‘Ray Allen’ and never be the ‘Kevin Garnett’. He has zero chance of being a top 5 player and would be incredibly disappointing if we cashed in al our chips for.

Giannis is still the guy were hoping for. KAT is in year 1 of a 5 year extension and wont be traded for a while. Jokic is more interesting, but his prone-ness for just being apathetic is concerning. I guess thats why he’d be hypothetically available.

Do we really want to trade Brown and Tatum for Giannis if he has a chance to leave as a free agent? My cousin hangs out with a couple of guys who work for the Raptors, and they said that Masai was pretty confident about signing him. And FWIW, ever since the rumors came out about the Knicks pursuing him, Masai has since become a tad less committed about his future in Toronto.

Granted, I don't know how legit my cousin's friends are, but if they are being truthful, then I think Masai ends up where ever Giannis decides he wants to go to. As bad as that organization is, Masai is probably confident enough that he can turn that thing around. Would be a hell of a lot easier trying to convince players to sign with the Knicks than it would be with Toronto, IMO.

I’d bet with pretty great confidence that giannis signs that extension this summer and it will be the largest in nba history. Bucks will be in the ECF this year at the minimum. He is 3-4 years away from being done or fed up with milwaukee ownership. when’s he’s 27-28 he’ll be available either demanding a trade. We are a ways away from that right now.

This is how guys used to do it. I could live with franchise players not demanding trades till at least 27-28. 3-5 years left in their prime then sure go ring hunt if we're not close and live your life.

But I agree, this is probably the case. He's going to AT LEAST the ECF this year and very likely the Finals. No one knows Giannas because he lives a really low profile media wise, but hopefully he sticks around.

DEN is also super young and I think Jokic isn't likely to want out anytime soon. Last year and for the next number of years they're WCF contenders. With a young supporting cast that should only be on the rise.

Honestly I think our best shot is to try to get flawed players that can be minned into all-stars ala IT for crap like a late first rounder and spare parts on our roster.

We're kind of locked into two separate timelines with the Kemba/Hayward timeline and the Brown/Tatum timeline. Neither will likely result in a ring with the way Tatum is developing but there's nothing wrong with just holding steady and praying.

Maybe we get a real stud with that MEM pick and suddenly we extend this "within" striking distance for a long time. There's much worse places to be.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Beal will always be the ‘Ray Allen’ and never be the ‘Kevin Garnett’. He has zero chance of being a top 5 player and would be incredibly disappointing if we cashed in al our chips for.

Giannis is still the guy were hoping for. KAT is in year 1 of a 5 year extension and wont be traded for a while. Jokic is more interesting, but his prone-ness for just being apathetic is concerning. I guess thats why he’d be hypothetically available.

Do we really want to trade Brown and Tatum for Giannis if he has a chance to leave as a free agent? My cousin hangs out with a couple of guys who work for the Raptors, and they said that Masai was pretty confident about signing him. And FWIW, ever since the rumors came out about the Knicks pursuing him, Masai has since become a tad less committed about his future in Toronto.

Granted, I don't know how legit my cousin's friends are, but if they are being truthful, then I think Masai ends up where ever Giannis decides he wants to go to. As bad as that organization is, Masai is probably confident enough that he can turn that thing around. Would be a hell of a lot easier trying to convince players to sign with the Knicks than it would be with Toronto, IMO.

I’d bet with pretty great confidence that giannis signs that extension this summer and it will be the largest in nba history. Bucks will be in the ECF this year at the minimum. He is 3-4 years away from being done or fed up with milwaukee ownership. when’s he’s 27-28 he’ll be available either demanding a trade. We are a ways away from that right now.

Let's hope so, because if Giannis paired up with another top 15-20 player, he'd be tough to beat. I'd rather he waste his prime years playing alongside Middleton and Bledsoe.

[Celtics_History_Lesson]

Can someone, which means two someones, make a trade? All 29 NBA teams are perfectly happy with where they are right now? Make a trade.


Calendar day for restrictions ended for most players. There are six confirmed tankers? Should be easy to make a trade with one of them.


Doesn't have to be K Love to Boston, Romeo to Cavs, M Smart to Mavs.


The Milwaukee pick and filler for A Len and Vince?


A forward that would fit with Boston, able to play both spots and shoot from outside while also adding amazing athletic ability, Jake Layman is now someone to consider.



There may not be nothing useful for Boston at the spot where the Memphis pick could be for the 2020 draft. Trade that to someone now, or work a three-team trade where Memphis gets it back, they send Jonas V or Iggy or Crowder or Anderson somewhere, and a power forward goes to Boston.


The Celtics have zero NBA-ready power forwards. Might be logical to trade for one.

[Celts17Pride]

People keep mentioning big man but what the Celtics really need someone to come off the bench and consistently give them 8-12 points per game. Someone to go with Marcus Smart when he is back in the lineup. A scoring vet bench wing player and less minutes from the Edwards, Ojeleye, Wanamaker, G Williams, Green etc. who are clearly no good or not ready.

A Marcus Morris, Eddie House, Jeremy Lamb, JJ Redick, Kevin Huerter, Tyler Herro, Rudy Gay etc. type player

Right now if the Celtics starters struggle the Celtics are DOA.

[100proof]

People keep mentioning big man but what the Celtics really need to someone to come off the bench and consistently give them 8-12 points per game. Someone to go with Marcus Smart when he is back in the lineup. A scoring vet bench wing player and less minutes from the Edwards, Ojeleye, Wanamaker, G Williams, Green etc. who are clearly no good or not ready.

A Marcus Morris, Eddie House, Jeremy Lamb, JJ Redick, Kevin Huerter, Tyler Herro, Rudy Gay etc. type player

Right now if the Celtics starters struggle the Celtics are DOA.

IMO, Ideally, Wannamaker, Smart and Kanter provide solid scoring off the bench. Semi is a decent enough in there too as a defensive player.

The most needed positions are backup PF (I think theis is perfect for that role)
a backup SF who can be more consitant them Semi
and a center that starts in place of theis.

Like someone posted above, Len and Carter is interesting targets. or Jones and Carter from Atlanta
WCS and a shooter off the bench
Poeltl
Still Like Christian Wood, but I think Detroit has caught on.
Bjelica
Tony Bradley

Other potential risk/reward adds are
Porter Jr,
Josh Jackson
Naz reid
Kaminsky
Giles

[Celts17Pride]

People keep mentioning big man but what the Celtics really need to someone to come off the bench and consistently give them 8-12 points per game. Someone to go with Marcus Smart when he is back in the lineup. A scoring vet bench wing player and less minutes from the Edwards, Ojeleye, Wanamaker, G Williams, Green etc. who are clearly no good or not ready.

A Marcus Morris, Eddie House, Jeremy Lamb, JJ Redick, Kevin Huerter, Tyler Herro, Rudy Gay etc. type player

Right now if the Celtics starters struggle the Celtics are DOA.

IMO, Ideally, Wannamaker, Smart and Kanter provide solid scoring off the bench. Semi is a decent enough in there too as a defensive player.

The most needed positions are backup PF (I think theis is perfect for that role)
a backup SF who can be more consitant them Semi
and a center that starts in place of theis.

Like someone posted above, Len and Carter is interesting targets. or Jones and Carter from Atlanta
WCS and a shooter off the bench
Poeltl
Still Like Christian Wood, but I think Detroit has caught on.
Bjelica
Tony Bradley

Other potential risk/reward adds are
Porter Jr,
Josh Jackson
Naz reid
Kaminsky
Giles

Celtics lost to Philly this week. Kanter had 20 points, Wanamaker had 2 points. That was it from the bench. Happens way to often. Celtics need a consistent bench scorer period. Any position.

[Ernest]

IT?

[100proof]

People keep mentioning big man but what the Celtics really need to someone to come off the bench and consistently give them 8-12 points per game. Someone to go with Marcus Smart when he is back in the lineup. A scoring vet bench wing player and less minutes from the Edwards, Ojeleye, Wanamaker, G Williams, Green etc. who are clearly no good or not ready.

A Marcus Morris, Eddie House, Jeremy Lamb, JJ Redick, Kevin Huerter, Tyler Herro, Rudy Gay etc. type player

Right now if the Celtics starters struggle the Celtics are DOA.

IMO, Ideally, Wannamaker, Smart and Kanter provide solid scoring off the bench. Semi is a decent enough in there too as a defensive player.

The most needed positions are backup PF (I think theis is perfect for that role)
a backup SF who can be more consitant them Semi
and a center that starts in place of theis.

Like someone posted above, Len and Carter is interesting targets. or Jones and Carter from Atlanta
WCS and a shooter off the bench
Poeltl
Still Like Christian Wood, but I think Detroit has caught on.
Bjelica
Tony Bradley

Other potential risk/reward adds are
Porter Jr,
Josh Jackson
Naz reid
Kaminsky
Giles

Celtics lost to Philly this week. Kanter had 20 points, Wanamaker had 2 points. That was it from the bench. Happens way to often. Celtics need a consistent bench scorer period. Any position.

I dont disagree, but with smart back bench production goes up 10+ points instantly. If Kanter is in his usual double digit scoring and wannamaker hovers a 8+ bench scoring is ok. Especially if Theis is moved to bench pf replacing Grant Williams. Semi at bench SF is still an issue and an upgrade at that spot is important.

Backup SF and starting center imo

[SmartWentCrazy]

Apparently Woj/Lowe floated that Harrell may be available as LA doesnt want to pay him. If thats true, I feel like we should be all over him.

[reload141]

Apparently Woj/Lowe floated that Harrell may be available as LA doesnt want to pay him. If thats true, I feel like we should be all over him.

Not sure about that for Clippers...Surely they know this is their year and they don't compromise it even if Harrell walks for nothing.

[Celts17Pride]

Apparently Woj/Lowe floated that Harrell may be available as LA doesnt want to pay him. If thats true, I feel like we should be all over him.

Celtics may not want to want to pay Harrell next year so that may make their offer much less. Not really making it worthwhile to the Clippers.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Apparently Woj/Lowe floated that Harrell may be available as LA doesnt want to pay him. If thats true, I feel like we should be all over him.

Not sure about that for Clippers...Surely they know this is their year and they don't compromise it even if Harrell walks for nothing.

Agree— feels like I’m missing something. However, Woj and Lowe are as legitimate as they get so I’m disinclined to believe this is nothing.

[captain green]

Well 3 weeks without time lord and basically nothing from Vincent I'd say we definitely need a big I hate to say it but frank the tank looks good now try that guy?

[djFan71]

Apparently Woj/Lowe floated that Harrell may be available as LA doesnt want to pay him. If thats true, I feel like we should be all over him.

Not sure about that for Clippers...Surely they know this is their year and they don't compromise it even if Harrell walks for nothing.

Agree— feels like I’m missing something. However, Woj and Lowe are as legitimate as they get so I’m disinclined to believe this is nothing.

I had the same thoughts. But, what do you think Harrell gets next summer? Dude could conceivably get maxed (by the "it only takes one team" maxim). Jerry West probably realizes that's not a great idea. So, if he can get a good replacement for this year, and locked in at a lower (long term) cost, I could see him moving on. With Harrell and Harkless you got $17M to play with. Just off the top of my head, that gets you Myles Turner. Locked in for 3 more years at less than what Harrell could get.

Not saying Indy does that deal, but something in that vein could be what entices the Clips. It could be a Perk-type move, tho, regardless of who it brings back.

[jeremym480]

Well 3 weeks without time lord and basically nothing from Vincent I'd say we definitely need a big I hate to say it but frank the tank looks good now try that guy?

I would rather have Saric but Frank would be nice as well.

[SmartWentCrazy]

Not sure about that for Clippers...Surely they know this is their year and they don't compromise it even if Harrell walks for nothing.

Agree— feels like I’m missing something. However, Woj and Lowe are as legitimate as they get so I’m disinclined to believe this is nothing.

I had the same thoughts. But, what do you think Harrell gets next summer? Dude could conceivably get maxed (by the "it only takes one team" maxim). Jerry West probably realizes that's not a great idea. So, if he can get a good replacement for this year, and locked in at a lower (long term) cost, I could see him moving on. With Harrell and Harkless you got $17M to play with. Just off the top of my head, that gets you Myles Turner. Locked in for 3 more years at less than what Harrell could get.

Not saying Indy does that deal, but something in that vein could be what entices the Clips. It could be a Perk-type move, tho, regardless of who it brings back.

LA gets:
Tristan Thompson
Semi Ojeleye
Boston FRP

Cleveland gets:
Mo Harkless [bought out]
Robert Williams

Boston gets:
Harrell

LA banks on Thompson being a much better defender and that they’ll be able to re-sign him for significantly less. Semi also gives them 6 fouls against AD.

Cleveland gets a young prospect for Thompson.

Boston gets Harrell and can gamble on possibly re-signing him.

[djFan71]

Agree— feels like I’m missing something. However, Woj and Lowe are as legitimate as they get so I’m disinclined to believe this is nothing.

I had the same thoughts. But, what do you think Harrell gets next summer? Dude could conceivably get maxed (by the "it only takes one team" maxim). Jerry West probably realizes that's not a great idea. So, if he can get a good replacement for this year, and locked in at a lower (long term) cost, I could see him moving on. With Harrell and Harkless you got $17M to play with. Just off the top of my head, that gets you Myles Turner. Locked in for 3 more years at less than what Harrell could get.

Not saying Indy does that deal, but something in that vein could be what entices the Clips. It could be a Perk-type move, tho, regardless of who it brings back.

LA gets:
Tristan Thompson
Semi Ojeleye
Boston FRP

Cleveland gets:
Mo Harkless [bought out]
Robert Williams

Boston gets:
Harrell

LA banks on Thompson being a much better defender and that they’ll be able to re-sign him for significantly less. Semi also gives them 6 fouls against AD.

Cleveland gets a young prospect for Thompson.

Boston gets Harrell and can gamble on possibly re-signing him.

Yeah, something like that works too. Clips may be making out a little getting the pick too.
I'd give Clips Semi and Cavs Grant and MIL 20. That's still a good haul for 2 rentals from the other clubs, imo.

I feel like our Harrell resigning chances could be pretty low, though. Haven't looked at our cap with a resigned Jaylen, opted in Hayward, but feel it's gotta look pretty ugly when I do. And Harrell's going to be in the $15M+ range for sure, right?

[Shak_Celts]

Agree— feels like I’m missing something. However, Woj and Lowe are as legitimate as they get so I’m disinclined to believe this is nothing.

I had the same thoughts. But, what do you think Harrell gets next summer? Dude could conceivably get maxed (by the "it only takes one team" maxim). Jerry West probably realizes that's not a great idea. So, if he can get a good replacement for this year, and locked in at a lower (long term) cost, I could see him moving on. With Harrell and Harkless you got $17M to play with. Just off the top of my head, that gets you Myles Turner. Locked in for 3 more years at less than what Harrell could get.

Not saying Indy does that deal, but something in that vein could be what entices the Clips. It could be a Perk-type move, tho, regardless of who it brings back.

LA gets:
Tristan Thompson
Semi Ojeleye
Boston FRP

Cleveland gets:
Mo Harkless [bought out]
Robert Williams

Boston gets:
Harrell

LA banks on Thompson being a much better defender and that they’ll be able to re-sign him for significantly less. Semi also gives them 6 fouls against AD.

Cleveland gets a young prospect for Thompson.

Boston gets Harrell and can gamble on possibly re-signing him.

lol I know we are Cs fans but just ask yourself if you would do this as a clippers fan. I wouldn't trade Harrell for any of that and if I were thinking of trading him, it'd certainly be for a lottery pick! I don't think people really get how solid he is. He's also only 25. SMH come on now!

[Floody100]

Haven’t seen much of Favours but can he defend ? especially the likes of Embiid ?