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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1461 » by mcfromage » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:20 am

MKE: Bogdan Bogdanovic
NYK: Cory Joseph, Ersan, Pacers 2020 1st
SAC: Randle, Ntilikina

Who says no (maybe Sac cause Randle gummies up their PF/C situation?)?
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Post#1462 » by drone3 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:45 am

Sterling and a 2nd for Nitlikina
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Post#1463 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:50 am

drone3 wrote:Sterling and a 2nd for Nitlikina

What do we need the D- version of Bledsoe for?
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1464 » by LuessiT » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:52 am

emunney wrote:I don't understand, why do people want Randle?


He's a potentially good player at a young age available for cheap. I'm not necessarily saying we should trade for Randle as the fit is atrocious and we'd have to give up a vital rotation player to match contracts, but some team out there may or may not get a bargain depending on how they utilize him.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1465 » by drone3 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:58 am

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drone3 wrote:Sterling and a 2nd for Nitlikina

What do we need the D- version of Bledsoe for?
Nitlikina is the next Jrue for alot cheaper. Pairing Bledsoe and Nitlikina would make our D fort knox.
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Post#1466 » by DanoMac » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:44 am

The next jrue lmao dude is one of the worst players in the entire league
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Post#1467 » by mbucks007 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:49 am

I have reading these posts about improving the Bucks to insure better results in the upcoming playoffs. Some of names thrown around here Randle, Jrue Holdiday, and so on are just a terrible idea in my humble opinion. In order to get these type of players we would have to move core players from our team that have great chemistry and are playing the roles we expect them to play and playing them effectively.
The following players in my opinion should but untouchable unless some ridiculous lopsided trades comes are way. Those players are:
Gianniss (obvious)
Kris (obvious)
George Hill (obvious)
Dante (Young talent who has made incredible improvement)
Pat C. (Defense and Hustle that ignites the team)
Brooke Lopez (While 3 point shot has fallen off his defense has still been stellar)
Robin Lopez (Brother of Brooke andhas played about to what we expected when we signed him)
Thiannis (Obvious)
Ersan ( Extremly smart player, still performs well, excels in the playoffs)
Kyle Korver Spreads the Court so much when he is in the game)

These are players I would consider trading:
Bledsoe (Shooting, mental mistakes, takes bad shots, playoffs concern, overrated defender has and is likely to struggle versus Simmons and k. walker.)
Sterling Brown Has played ok but packaged in a trade might get you more. His contract is up after season, how much are you going to pay him?
DJ same as above
D. Bender I hoped he might be the error replacement to Brooke someday. Has the tools, doesn't have the body or physical tools to live up to that roll. Will he someday since he is young, I don't know.

Having said that I would strongly consider trading Bledsoe. I like Eric Bledsoe, I think he carried himself admirably since he arrived here. I like his hustle. However I think he diminishes are chances to win a Title. If he starts jacking bad shots in the playoffs like he most likely will, he could be the reason we wil losel a close game. His basketball IQ is all over the place. You never know which Bledsoe will show up.

I can only think of a couple of trades I would consider when comes to Bledsoe.

Trade 1 Bledsoe to New York for Marcus Morris strait up. The upside is you get a 40% 3 point shooter who plays tough defense, is a peak performer in the playoffs and who plays hard. Same age as Bledsoe, Downside he is on a 1 year deal and he has had his moments with the Bucks in the past. If we do this, it moves Donte to starting PG, he looks ready in my humble opinion. That Moves Kris to SG and puts Morris at the Small forward. This is better starting lineup both offensively and defensively then we currently have. It also lowers our cap slightly which might let up add a player in buyout market.

Trade 2 Bledsoe and Sterling Brown Out Davis Bertans and DJ Augustine in. This trade goes like this. Orlando gets Bledsoe, CJ Miles, Mortiz Wagner, Washington gets Aaron Gordon and Sterling Brown. This trade helps all three teams, Orlando becomes a lock as a playoff team, Washington gets a better building block for the future and the Bucks get impressive shooting. I Like Betrans as Ersan's future replacement and DJ Augustine as better smarter, capable shooting PG coming off the bench who expires at the end of they year giving us more flexibility next off season as well as some cap room during this years buyout market.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1468 » by drone3 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:03 am

DanoMac wrote:The next jrue lmao dude is one of the worst players in the entire league
Frank has elite defensive tools, I'm positive with the right development and vitamins he would be an awesome all round fit for Bud ball.
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Post#1469 » by Garbs_7 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:13 pm

mbucks007 wrote:I have reading these posts about improving the Bucks to insure better results in the upcoming playoffs. Some of names thrown around here Randle, Jrue Holdiday, and so on are just a terrible idea in my humble opinion. In order to get these type of players we would have to move core players from our team that have great chemistry and are playing the roles we expect them to play and playing them effectively.
The following players in my opinion should but untouchable unless some ridiculous lopsided trades comes are way. Those players are:
Gianniss (obvious)
Kris (obvious)
George Hill (obvious)
Dante (Young talent who has made incredible improvement)
Pat C. (Defense and Hustle that ignites the team)
Brooke Lopez (While 3 point shot has fallen off his defense has still been stellar)
Robin Lopez (Brother of Brooke andhas played about to what we expected when we signed him)
Thiannis (Obvious)
Ersan ( Extremly smart player, still performs well, excels in the playoffs)
Kyle Korver Spreads the Court so much when he is in the game)



Giannis*
Khris*
Donte*
Brook*
Thanasis*


Also trading Bledsoe for Marcus Morris is that bad it could cost us a championship.

The Bledsoe + Sterling for Augustin + Bertans trade is interesting. A lot of shooting coming in, but lose a lot of D, I say no as chemistry could also be affected heavily with Bled and Giannis close (as well as with Khris), but I could easily see people liking that trade.
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Post#1470 » by Ruzious » Fri Dec 20, 2019 12:14 pm

mbucks007 wrote:I have reading these posts about improving the Bucks to insure better results in the upcoming playoffs. Some of names thrown around here Randle, Jrue Holdiday, and so on are just a terrible idea in my humble opinion. In order to get these type of players we would have to move core players from our team that have great chemistry and are playing the roles we expect them to play and playing them effectively.
The following players in my opinion should but untouchable unless some ridiculous lopsided trades comes are way. Those players are:
Gianniss (obvious)
Kris (obvious)
George Hill (obvious)
Dante (Young talent who has made incredible improvement)
Pat C. (Defense and Hustle that ignites the team)
Brooke Lopez (While 3 point shot has fallen off his defense has still been stellar)
Robin Lopez (Brother of Brooke andhas played about to what we expected when we signed him)
Thiannis (Obvious)
Ersan ( Extremly smart player, still performs well, excels in the playoffs)
Kyle Korver Spreads the Court so much when he is in the game)

These are players I would consider trading:
Bledsoe (Shooting, mental mistakes, takes bad shots, playoffs concern, overrated defender has and is likely to struggle versus Simmons and k. walker.)
Sterling Brown Has played ok but packaged in a trade might get you more. His contract is up after season, how much are you going to pay him?
DJ same as above
D. Bender I hoped he might be the error replacement to Brooke someday. Has the tools, doesn't have the body or physical tools to live up to that roll. Will he someday since he is young, I don't know.

Having said that I would strongly consider trading Bledsoe. I like Eric Bledsoe, I think he carried himself admirably since he arrived here. I like his hustle. However I think he diminishes are chances to win a Title. If he starts jacking bad shots in the playoffs like he most likely will, he could be the reason we wil losel a close game. His basketball IQ is all over the place. You never know which Bledsoe will show up.

I can only think of a couple of trades I would consider when comes to Bledsoe.

Trade 1 Bledsoe to New York for Marcus Morris strait up. The upside is you get a 40% 3 point shooter who plays tough defense, is a peak performer in the playoffs and who plays hard. Same age as Bledsoe, Downside he is on a 1 year deal and he has had his moments with the Bucks in the past. If we do this, it moves Donte to starting PG, he looks ready in my humble opinion. That Moves Kris to SG and puts Morris at the Small forward. This is better starting lineup both offensively and defensively then we currently have. It also lowers our cap slightly which might let up add a player in buyout market.

Trade 2 Bledsoe and Sterling Brown Out Davis Bertans and DJ Augustine in. This trade goes like this. Orlando gets Bledsoe, CJ Miles, Mortiz Wagner, Washington gets Aaron Gordon and Sterling Brown. This trade helps all three teams, Orlando becomes a lock as a playoff team, Washington gets a better building block for the future and the Bucks get impressive shooting. I Like Betrans as Ersan's future replacement and DJ Augustine as better smarter, capable shooting PG coming off the bench who expires at the end of they year giving us more flexibility next off season as well as some cap room during this years buyout market.

If you trade Bledsoe and Brown, you need to get more than rentals like Bertans and Augustin. Bucks have a good set-up now that allows them to limit Hill's minutes. And Bledsoe is a key to the team defense. I'd rather go with what we have.

I'd stay away from the Morris brothers. They seem to be questionable characters with anger issues. Marcus has improved over the last year or so and did well in the playoffs against Milwaukee, but he's never struck me as a player I'd want on my team.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1471 » by WimpyDeer » Fri Dec 20, 2019 1:05 pm

DanoMac wrote:The next jrue lmao dude is one of the worst players in the entire league


Who has he played for?
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Post#1472 » by raferfenix » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:18 pm

Coach Carter wrote:I think we need bogdan or reddick. Bogdan is the better ball handler and shot creator but reddick is a more efficient shooter, not mention FT shooter. You know reddick will show up as for bogdon, no playoff experience though he's a demon in pressure situations especially for serbia and i think it can translate to the playoffs


Bogdan's contract is easier to acquire than JJ's if the Bucks are prioritizing keeping Ersan vs DJ.

This kind of consolidation deal would have the least impact on our current rotation of any of the scenarios we are throwing around:


Bucks trade: Pacers pick + DJ + Brown + Bender
Kings trade: Bogdan + 2nd round pick


The question is whether Bogdan moves the needle enough to be worth shaking up the rotation and team chemistry at all, and whether we could replace DJ effectively with someone from the waiver wire in case Ersan gets hurt.

That and whether we really want to pay Bogdan what he will get, while DJ has a locked in contract next year, and we'd be giving up the Pacers pick to boot.
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Re: Bucks News, Trades, Transactions - Hollinger/Duncan rate organization, pg 40 

Post#1473 » by DanoMac » Fri Dec 20, 2019 7:47 pm

WimpyDeer wrote:
DanoMac wrote:The next jrue lmao dude is one of the worst players in the entire league


Who has he played for?


the same team Porzingis looked like a superstar on. Blaming the organization can only go so far
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Post#1474 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:23 pm

I’d do Wilson for Vlatko Cancar, a rookie Slovene locked in to a four year minimum and shooting 40% from beyond the arc through 10 G-league games. #TalkSoon.
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Post#1475 » by LuessiT » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:29 pm

Ntilikina actually looks decent this year and most metrics support that. He was one of the worst players last season. He's not anymore. I still wouldn't consider him a good contract on face value alone but he's still got tremendous potential. Shooting 47% from 16ft-3 is actually really promising.
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Post#1476 » by ShootingtheJ » Fri Dec 20, 2019 8:37 pm

drone3 wrote:Sterling and a 2nd for Nitlikina



That deal is over $2 million off from being legal. Among the reasons to avoid Frank is he's really overpaid.
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Post#1477 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:10 pm

Alen Smailagić is going to be an NBA contributor. Phenomenal defensive instincts.
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Post#1478 » by TroyD92 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 10:37 pm

People think trading bledose is a good idea still?
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Post#1479 » by blazza18 » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:33 pm

TroyD92 wrote:People think trading bledose is a good idea still?


Yes. At least until he redeems himself in the playoffs.
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Post#1480 » by ReasonablySober » Fri Dec 20, 2019 11:41 pm

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