Trade Ideas Thread, 2019-20

[snowman]

One of the better proposals on here. Kief is having a career shooting year -- 40+% from 3, near-60% TS%. Adds physicality, experience, and toughness to our bench. Less blackholey than his twin brother (I think). Adds another defender for the Giannis/Lebron/PG types.

Concern is he's in a contract year and might want more touches/shots as Rozier/Mook did last season.

Reality is we can't do earth-shattering, game-changing moves. But we can improve on the margins.

Actually, according to HoopsHype Kief has a player option for next year.

[zoyathedestroya]

One of the better proposals on here. Kief is having a career shooting year -- 40+% from 3, near-60% TS%. Adds physicality, experience, and toughness to our bench. Less blackholey than his twin brother (I think). Adds another defender for the Giannis/Lebron/PG types.

Concern is he's in a contract year and might want more touches/shots as Rozier/Mook did last season.

Reality is we can't do earth-shattering, game-changing moves. But we can improve on the margins.

Actually, according to HoopsHype Kief has a player option for next year.

My bad. Read spotrac details wrong. I thought he had PO at the end of this season. That would be a great trade.

[celtxman]

Outsider here:

According to Hollinger, you guys may be looking for another versatile wing, why?

Why not add a few pieces and get a nice big if possible, such as Capela, but I don't think Hou moves him.
Maybe Jakob or get Baynes Back.

Would Kuzma interest you guys at all? Take Semi's minutes. 1.8M this year, 3.5M next year, andd a low cap hold in 2021

It may be possible that if there are rumors that Boston is looking at versatile wings it is because they would make a deal trading some they currently have.

This has to be the assumption which makes it odd that this is so public. Even losing Marcus Morris, minutes are tough with Hayward, Brown and Tatum, and hopefully working in Langford. The development of Tatum and Brown makes if seem that if the Celtics are looking for a versatile wing, let's say Markief, then there is a Hayward/Love type trade. You can change names around, but more wings are not something the Celtics need without a similar trade.

[100proof]

Outsider here:

According to Hollinger, you guys may be looking for another versatile wing, why?

Why not add a few pieces and get a nice big if possible, such as Capela, but I don't think Hou moves him.
Maybe Jakob or get Baynes Back.

Would Kuzma interest you guys at all? Take Semi's minutes. 1.8M this year, 3.5M next year, andd a low cap hold in 2021

It may be possible that if there are rumors that Boston is looking at versatile wings it is because they would make a deal trading some they currently have.

This has to be the assumption which makes it odd that this is so public. Even losing Marcus Morris, minutes are tough with Hayward, Brown and Tatum, and hopefully working in Langford. The development of Tatum and Brown makes if seem that if the Celtics are looking for a versatile wing, let's say Markief, then there is a Hayward/Love type trade. You can change names around, but more wings are not something the Celtics need without a similar trade.

I could see a hayward for a bigman deal, then a deal of poirier/filler for a sf/pf combo off bench.

Example idea, not proposing.

Hayward for adams and filler
Poirier and said filler for morris, or harris

Left with
Kemba/wannamaker
Smart/langford
Brown/morris
Tatum/theis
Adams/kanter

More balance...

[Higgs Boston]

markieff is more like a PF-C (he played minutes as a C in the wizards), he never has played as SF, it's marcus morris who is a SF-PF.

[Dannyboy36]

I don’t really have a trade in mind myself but if people think we are really that close. Like, say a big man away from challenging the Clippers and Lakers etc. then I wonder if Smart shouldn’t be the guy we’d consider dealing instead of Hayward. I say “SHOULD’NT “ because I know the backlash in Boston would be harsh unless the trade was returning a superstar.

[sarcasma]

I don’t really have a trade in mind myself but if people think we are really that close. Like, say a big man away from challenging the Clippers and Lakers etc. then I wonder if Smart shouldn’t be the guy we’d consider dealing instead of Hayward. I say “SHOULD’NT “ because I know the backlash in Boston would be harsh unless the trade was returning a superstar.

Smart is the guy I would trade. I think the team plays better without him...Tatum/Brown get involved in the offense more.

[100proof]

I don’t really have a trade in mind myself but if people think we are really that close. Like, say a big man away from challenging the Clippers and Lakers etc. then I wonder if Smart shouldn’t be the guy we’d consider dealing instead of Hayward. I say “SHOULD’NT “ because I know the backlash in Boston would be harsh unless the trade was returning a superstar.

Smart is the guy I would trade. I think the team plays better without him...Tatum/Brown get involved in the offense more.

That is a pretty incorrect statement, from top to bottom.

[winsomme2]

Count me in on a move to get Markieff Morris.

He helps with interior defense and outside shooting. He will be a good match up for Philly's big wings and another body to throw at Giannis. He checks off a lot of boxes and shouldn't cost that much.

I'd also like to re-look at Baynes. I know PHX is a fringe playoff team, so maybe they'd consider moving him.

[zoyathedestroya]

Count me in on a move to get Markieff Morris.

He helps with interior defense and outside shooting. He will be a good match up for Philly's big wings and another body to throw at Giannis. He checks off a lot of boxes and shouldn't cost that much.

I'd also like to re-look at Baynes. I know PHX is a fringe playoff team, so maybe they'd consider moving him.

We can't reacquire Baynes within this season unless he gets traded to another team first, then waived.

[Pacino62]

Oh dear. People talking about trading Smart

[Scarletfire81]

I dont believe there is a trade to make that will be a difference maker. I may have been ok trading Hayward if I felt he was going to be out with alot with injuries, he still looks good out there, I dont want to trade him. Trading Smart, our best defender, makes zero sense. His salary isnt high enough to bring anything that will make a significant difference. We are better off staying put and accepting our strengths and weaknesses.

[Floody100]

We have the third best record in the NBA without consistently having our best players on the court.
Let’s just leave it the way it is.

[Gant]

We have the third best record in the NBA without consistently having our best players on the court.
Let’s just leave it the way it is.

amen

[100proof]

We have the third best record in the NBA without consistently having our best players on the court.
Let’s just leave it the way it is.

Should be looking for the best record in the nba.
And there are weaknesses as currently constructed
And winning could be a bi product of being forced into running more balanced lineups
And I dont see room for another 3 rookies this offseason

Can argue either side, but a trade needs made if for no other reason than consolidation.

[CelticFaninLBC]

Hang onto the 5 Core guys (Tatum, Brown, Kemba, Smart & Heyward), along with Romeo & the MEM pick, and try to add some size to deal with Giannis, like Robert Covington or Thaddeus Young.. Maybe something like...

Poirier, G. Williams, Ojeleye and the MILW pick for Robert Covington.

[snowman]

With the way we are playing, I doubt a big trade is coming through any time soon. That being said, we could stand to get more production from our bench. Part of that will take care of itself as the injured played get back, what about new injuries. We need to be ready.
Pretty safe to say that Walker, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Smart or Theis are not going to be moved. Also, I am going out on a limb to say R. Williams, and most of the rooks, (G. Williams, Langford, Waters, Fall ) are pretty safe unless bringing back something MUCH better. I also think Wannamaker and Kanter have both played their way safe, and have established a niche for themselves here. I also Green and Edwards has so much to potential that as the 12 and 13th man, it would be hard to be better.

In my mind, that leaves Semi and Poirier as the fringe players to try to improve.

We also have 3 FRP's and 1 SRP to add as trade cash to barter with. I do not want to move the Memphis pick at all. I also don't want to try and stash players over seas next draft because that worked so well the last time we tried that. With that being said IMHO, I think we need to move some combination of the following to upgrade the end of the bench.

Boston's FRP, currently 28th overall
Buck's FRP, currently 30th overall
Semi
Poirier

I suggest that we find a defensive bench big, and another pure shooter from a treadmill team or bottom dwelling team that could use FRP's to upgrade the fringe players.

[CelticFaninLBC]

With the way we are playing, I doubt a big trade is coming through any time soon. That being said, we could stand to get more production from our bench. Part of that will take care of itself as the injured played get back, what about new injuries. We need to be ready.
Pretty safe to say that Walker, Brown, Hayward, Tatum, Smart or Theis are not going to be moved. Also, I am going out on a limb to say R. Williams, and most of the rooks, (G. Williams, Langford, Waters, Fall ) are pretty safe unless bringing back something MUCH better. I also think Wannamaker and Kanter have both played their way safe, and have established a niche for themselves here. I also Green and Edwards has so much to potential that as the 12 and 13th man, it would be hard to be better.

In my mind, that leaves Semi and Poirier as the fringe players to try to improve.

We also have 3 FRP's and 1 SRP to add as trade cash to barter with. I do not want to move the Memphis pick at all. I also don't want to try and stash players over seas next draft because that worked so well the last time we tried that. With that being said IMHO, I think we need to move some combination of the following to upgrade the end of the bench.

Boston's FRP, currently 28th overall
Buck's FRP, currently 30th overall
Semi
Poirier

I suggest that we find a defensive bench big, and another pure shooter from a treadmill team or bottom dwelling team that could use FRP's to upgrade the fringe players.

Poirier, Semi and Edwards can bring back a player making around $10 million/year. Davis Bertans is about the only guys I can think of who makes under $10 mil and fills a need for Boston though.

[Festurs]

How much does Aaron Baynes make. From what I recall it’s not a ton and I can’t envision Phoenix signing him to big money with Ayton on the roster.
I would happily trade a late first with filler to bring him back if possible


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[CelticFaninLBC]

How much does Aaron Baynes make. From what I recall it’s not a ton and I can’t envision Phoenix signing him to big money with Ayton on the roster.
I would happily trade a late first with filler to bring him back if possible


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Boston can't trade for Baynes, since they dealt him last June.