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We "Don't" Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread

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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1341 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Nov 18, 2019 3:38 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:It's a fun season for sure. Never imagined it possible after Kemba left. Monk is so entertaining to watch. If he gains confidence and continues to deliver while putting on more size it's only gonna get more entertaining from here. He has great chemistry with Devonté. Kemba Walker was a great influence on this group. Terry was a solid addition and PJ was a great pick. Zeller is hitting threes. Being mediocre can really drain a fan. But this is just the beginning. Our floor is higher than most imagined.


Monk can still use 10 to 15 more pounds, but his ability to drive the lane is such a wonderful surprise.


He has the quickness to get to the hoop, especially with his improved handles (yes, I've noticed). The defense must push out to the perimeter on him because they respect his range. He's making them pay for it. He's become more unpredictable because he can launch one, pass or drive. Lately he's been eyeing the perimeter, driving and passing to the open shooter. He knows where the ball is going before he puts it on the floor. His court vision is underrated. But this is a kid who sees the floor well. He tries to do too much at times but more frequently he's making the simple pass and racking up assists. He's creating good looks for his teammates and getting open for them. A bigger Monk is a handful. I love watching the dynamic between Monk and Devonté. They're both very dangerous and tough to defend. Both have improved and the results will fuel greater confidence. It's a great backcourt duo.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1342 » by yosemiteben » Sat Dec 7, 2019 3:00 am

Monk's 3PT% on the season down to 27%. I don't understand how that's possible.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1343 » by DY_nasty » Sat Dec 7, 2019 3:18 am

he sucks right now. dude has no sort of creative ball handling to drive so people close out on him and he's just screwed

his offball game would need a few more years to develop so right now he's left with hitting hard shots or nothing
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1344 » by Rich4114 » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:45 pm

He was looking great for a stretch but has really tapered off lately and his 3pt shot just hasn’t been falling at a good enough rate. I still like his ability to drive and create, but he’s got to be more consistent offensively with a better 3pt % otherwise his deficiency on defense aren’t worth it.

It seems he is better with certain configurations but I think he really needs the ball in his hands to be effective and he won’t get it much with Terry out there and to a lesser degree, Devonte.

I honestly think the way to fix this is to start him with Devonte and let Terry be 6th man. JB won’t do it because he values Terry’s empty stats over anything else it seems, but it would make us better IMO.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1345 » by fatlever » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:53 pm

Note to self, do not play monk when he has an injured finger.

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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1346 » by Rich4114 » Sat Dec 7, 2019 5:59 pm

fatlever wrote:Note to self, do not play monk when he has an injured finger.

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It’s been pretty bad since then hasn’t it.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1347 » by yosemiteben » Mon Dec 16, 2019 12:31 am

His 3PT% is down to 26.7%. He's shooting 21% from three in December.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1348 » by HornetJail » Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:14 am

He's playing ok otherwise, but man his 3s just won't go this year. Must be frustrating for him. If he's even shooting last season's percentages he'd be having a legitimately good season
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Post#1349 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Dec 16, 2019 4:21 am

He honestly hasnt been that good of a shooter his entire career thus far
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1350 » by Diop » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:26 am

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nice to be able to post a good defensive highlight.

was a great play
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1351 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:33 am

Monk just seems better at a faster pace where he can use his quickness to find open space. I don't like him in half court sets at this stage of his career. Pretty sure Terry will pound the air out of the ball before ever passing to him. He's developing as a playmaker but I hope he comes into training camp firing away next year. Time to work on his three pointers.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1352 » by 316Hornets » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:19 pm

Monk just doesn't have a shot like most talented shooters have. He's erratic and lacks intensity on both ends of the floor. He spends so much time trying to create space because he can't shoot over guys due to his short height. If he spends every waking moment in the gym and finds a shot he can hit with his eyes closed, maybe he'll have a chance. As it stands, I don't see it and think he's on his way out of the league.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1353 » by DY_nasty » Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:17 pm

I've got zero faith in Monk to consistently do anything well. Even when he makes a nice play I'm just meh because I know 2 weeks of disappointment is soon to follow.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1354 » by BigSlam » Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:16 pm

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nice to be able to post a good defensive highlight.

was a great play

While the pass worked out, I actually think it was a horrible, low percentage pass that he shouldn’t have attempted.

It can not be under stated just how good Cody was to catch that pass and finish.

9 times out of 10 that pass by Monk sails out of bounds over the end zone.

Firing a half court, no look, underhand rocket at a streaking 7 footer at full speed and putting the pass that low is just dumb.

Cody made it ok.


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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1355 » by Liver_Pooty » Sun Dec 29, 2019 11:32 pm

316Hornets wrote:Monk just doesn't have a shot like most talented shooters have. He's erratic and lacks intensity on both ends of the floor. He spends so much time trying to create space because he can't shoot over guys due to his short height. If he spends every waking moment in the gym and finds a shot he can hit with his eyes closed, maybe he'll have a chance. As it stands, I don't see it and think he's on his way out of the league.


He also has more of a line drive shot. Not a beautiful Bradley Beal type arc.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1356 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Dec 30, 2019 1:10 am

Out of the league :lol:

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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1357 » by fatlever » Mon Dec 30, 2019 8:26 pm

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Post#1358 » by Snidely FC » Wed Jan 8, 2020 2:09 pm

Wasn't Monk drafted to be a shooter? I mean, wasn't that his thing in college? He would get hot from 3 and put up 40 points? Why is this team not making him shoot 3s? I know I know I know he is shooting like 20% from 3. But that's my point. Seriously, make him chuck until he shoots his way out of the cold streak and finds some confidence in his shot. With a streak shooter like him isn't it all about confidence? It's not like we're winning games anyway. I don't really get letting him play the way he is. I don't really see how he is helping this team being a "scorer." He needs to be a shooter. A volume three point shooter. Without a 3 ball he is useless. Either make him shoot (he is averaging 3x3s/game to Devonte's 9x3s/game) until he rediscovers confidence in his shot...or send him to Greensboro where he can hoist 25 three pointers every night...or trade him the heck out of here!
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1359 » by DY_nasty » Wed Jan 8, 2020 2:38 pm

Snidely FC wrote:Wasn't Monk drafted to be a shooter? I mean, wasn't that his thing in college? He would get hot from 3 and put up 40 points? Why is this team not making him shoot 3s? I know I know I know he is shooting like 20% from 3. But that's my point. Seriously, make him chuck until he shoots his way out of the cold streak and finds some confidence in his shot. With a streak shooter like him isn't it all about confidence? It's not like we're winning games anyway. I don't really get letting him play the way he is. I don't really see how he is helping this team being a "scorer." He needs to be a shooter. A volume three point shooter. Without a 3 ball he is useless. Either make him shoot (he is averaging 3x3s/game to Devonte's 9x3s/game) until he rediscovers confidence in his shot...or send him to Greensboro where he can hoist 25 three pointers every night...or trade him the heck out of here!

He could shoot - but he was also branded to be a monta ellis type of slasher as well. Which is far, far more concerning to me because he has zero lateral movement and his ability as a ballhandler will likely never match his abilities as an athlete.

I'd patiently wait for the shooting to come if he had the mindset of a shooter. Reddick didn't start out hot, etc. He doesn't and never has though. He only brings aggression and looks to score when he's driving because that's what he is as a player.
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Re: We Want the Monk: The Malik Monk Thread 

Post#1360 » by Rich4114 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 2:56 am

Monk has become more conservative with his shot. Which is good, but now he has to dial it back up and look for his range shot more. He should be doing whatever Devonte did to improve his range and his shot. He was touted by Jay Bilas before the draft as “the best PURE shooter in the draft” which he clearly was not. But he’s also not what he’s showing us right now in terms of shooting. I will say this though, we play better when he has the ball in his hands and can drive or create. Plus he’s one of the best finishers at the rim on our team. Someone needs to work with this guy and optimize him. An
Optimized Monk could be a star.

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