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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#281 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jan 3, 2020 8:03 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Randle can put up numbers and can be good in the right spot.

My issue has always been I don’t like the fit if we are building around Mitch, RJ and whatever PG we have. With Randle, you have to play a certain way and you need to build around his skillset. Just doesn’t seem like we have the right pieces to do that successfully if we are keeping Mitch/RJ.


Is that really what the plan is though? To build around Mitch and RJ, and whatever?


Yeah, that didn’t seem like our plan, or at least not our priority which was part of my issue. I think we were focused more on trying to compete and win now. We wanted to find the best players we could on short term deals in free agency. It created some overlap and jumbled the roster a bit.

I would have preferred if we had focused on finding free agents that fit around our young players and put a higher priority on developing them. Granted, no matter what we did in our situation we weren't going to win a lot of games.

moocow007 wrote:So are folks looking for a Randle type offensive talent (who can rebound and pass well) that can also defend and shoot 3's? Just want to do a reality check cause you can count those type players on one hand.


Randle has a ton of talent. To me it was more about fit. I think his skill set and weakness are a bad fit next to Mitch and RJ. Some of their strengths and weakness overlap. Randle’s style is similar to the way RJ should be playing as a secondary playmaker that wants to attack the rim….and Mitch loves to attack the rim. While none are great shooters. Think a guy like Morris at PF who can spread the floor, be a versatile defender, do some dirty work would have been a better fit for RJ/Mitch.

In general PFs like Randle seem like a dying breed with the way teams are playing smaller and spreading the floor which is one of the reasons he hasnt been in high demand. Its hard to build a good team around him, especially when we have Mitch/RJ as starting points.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#282 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jan 3, 2020 9:14 pm

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Deeeez Knicks wrote:Randle can put up numbers and can be good in the right spot.

My issue has always been I don’t like the fit if we are building around Mitch, RJ and whatever PG we have. With Randle, you have to play a certain way and you need to build around his skillset. Just doesn’t seem like we have the right pieces to do that successfully if we are keeping Mitch/RJ.


it's really about how much rj can improve his shooting and if randle can maintain his outside shot. but i think they got randle for 2 reasons.

1. to see if he can be a late blooming all-star like oladipo
2. to act as a placeholder for a better player in the future. as an advertisement that the pieces around randle are good enough to support an all-star. that's what's they're gonna try to prove for the rest of this year and next. then hopefully they go into summer 2021 attracting someone even better.


Yeah, those are probably some reasons. He put up 21 and 9 last year so no doubt he can put up all-star numbers. He is someone that can put up numbers and they can market, but not invest in long term. I think that was another reason. Fiz was pretty much force feeding him to get his numbers.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#283 » by seren » Fri Jan 3, 2020 9:33 pm

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moocow007 wrote:So are folks looking for a Randle type offensive talent (who can rebound and pass well) that can also defend and shoot 3's? Just want to do a reality check cause you can count those type players on one hand.



If it’s just bigs I’m not sure it even goes one hand


Problem is the value is limited in today’s league. Someone was comparing KP and Randle‘s numbers this season. Even with worse shooting, today’s game prefers KP over Randle. You need size and shot blocking preferably with very good outside shooting from your bigs. Randle can put up these numbers yet never win with him playing a major role (not even talking about a Robin role). In his best and with superstars around, you wouldn’t even keep him. You would rather trade him for a Brook Lopez type player if available.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#284 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Jan 3, 2020 10:02 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:I don't get why people want to trade Randle. Unless we getting KAT just keep Randle. Randle is 25 years old, one year older than Brickstaps and is putting up great numbers under Mike Miller. Why not keep him and appreciate him for who he is. We've always wished we had a young stud like Randle and now that we have him people are quick to say "Trade him for picks" only to hope to draft a player like Randle. Makes no sense to me.


Currency of hope. Some folks just like the idea of some unknown draft superstar. Those same folks definitely play scratch off lotteries.


I'm eating that crow right now. I wanted him out but under Miller he looks like a damned good player for the money. He's a gem even if I cringe at some of the things he does. So long as he's not primary ball handler and decider... I'm actually liking Randle.


Miller has been able to fine tune Randle's control nobs. :D
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#285 » by nedleeds » Tue Jan 7, 2020 1:35 am

He is still terrible and playing out of position. Playing against wretched defenses like Atlanta, Wiz and Portland put some shine on him. He also randomly made some uncontested 3's. If he can actually shoot north of 35% from 3 maybe he is a replacement level 4.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#286 » by Fat » Tue Jan 7, 2020 10:40 am

nedleeds wrote:He is still terrible and playing out of position. Playing against wretched defenses like Atlanta, Wiz and Portland put some shine on him. He also randomly made some uncontested 3's. If he can actually shoot north of 35% from 3 maybe he is a replacement level 4.


He’s not playing out of position he’s playing
On a roster that he won’t thrive in.

Randle/Mitch/Rj what could possibly go wrong?

Mitch plays around the rim
Rj plays around the the rim

You signed a player in Randle who plays around the rim to play with more guys that play around the rim? Genius :lol:

Not to mention you didn’t bother to sign a guard that can shoot to make the lineup less toxic.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#287 » by Dunk93 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 6:54 pm

Any word on randle?
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#288 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jan 9, 2020 6:56 pm

Dunk93 wrote:Any word on randle?

He’s not going anywhere
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#289 » by Dunk93 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 7:04 pm

No. Regarding his off court family issue. Hope everything's ok.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#290 » by Jstock12 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 7:05 pm

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Dunk93 wrote:Any word on randle?

He’s not going anywhere
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#291 » by 3toheadmelo » Thu Jan 9, 2020 8:09 pm

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Dunk93 wrote:Any word on randle?

He’s not going anywhere
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#292 » by seren » Thu Jan 9, 2020 10:58 pm

Randle is an undersized center in today’s NBA. He can put the ball in the hoop and he has some passing abilities. That is it. He would never be a significant component of a championship team. He can’t carry a team to playoffs either. Best to spend that money elsewhere
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#293 » by bleedblue3303 » Thu Jan 9, 2020 11:27 pm

He’s not a bad player. But... u absolutely need a pg that can break down defensives and get him open close to the basket. Or hit him rolling to the hoop. I don’t think he is capable of doing the things we wanted him to do.


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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#294 » by nyk2017 » Fri Mar 6, 2020 1:43 am

The next Knicks coach should create Julius Randle rules...

Rule #1 - not allowed to bring the ball up the court.
Rule #2 - not allowed to get any touches behind the 3 point line.
Rule #3 - only allowed to get the ball in the post.
Rule #4 - not allowed to take more than 2 dribbles.
Rule #5 - not allowed to spin with the ball below his waist.

If the Knicks follow these rules then Randle can be effective enough to maybe come close to his salary.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#295 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Mar 6, 2020 7:38 am

nyk2017 wrote:The next Knicks coach should create Julius Randle rules...

Rule #1 - not allowed to bring the ball up the court.
Rule #2 - not allowed to get any touches behind the 3 point line.
Rule #3 - only allowed to get the ball in the post.
Rule #4 - not allowed to take more than 2 dribbles.
Rule #5 - not allowed to spin with the ball below his waist.

If the Knicks follow these rules then Randle can be effective enough to maybe come close to his salary.

If he follows the rules, he still can't protect the rim OR space the floor. Completely useless.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#296 » by Tron Carter » Fri Mar 6, 2020 9:57 am

Dunk93 wrote:Any word on randle?


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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#297 » by robillionaire » Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:26 am

I would prefer not to trade him
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#298 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:30 am

robillionaire wrote:I would prefer not to trade him


The way he’s playing now , why would you ? Lol. He’s reached his potential with the Knicks.
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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#299 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Mar 14, 2021 2:54 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Randle is here for the next 3 years and you’ll like it


Oh, you don't think have faith that Mills and Perry will pull off a trade for a haul given Randle's soaring present market value?

I don't get why people want to trade Randle. Unless we getting KAT just keep Randle. Randle is 25 years old, one year older than Brickstaps and is putting up great numbers under Mike Miller. Why not keep him and appreciate him for who he is. We've always wished we had a young stud like Randle and now that we have him people are quick to say "Trade him for picks" only to hope to draft a player like Randle. Makes no sense to me.

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Re: Official trade Julius Randle thread 

Post#300 » by Chanel Bomber » Sun Mar 14, 2021 3:06 am

I'll remember 2020 as the year I messed up with the Randle and Lamelo takes.

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