GT: Seahawks at Packers - 5:40 - FOX

Mags FTW · Post #541 » by **Mags FTW** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:34 am

LaFleur said they would've gone for it if they marked it short.

HaroldinGMinor · Post #542 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:44 am

Mags FTW wrote:LaFleur said they would've gone for it if they marked it short.

Would have screamed loudly had they not

StickeeFingaz · Post #543 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:52 am

Can't believe Weezy was out there leading Roll Out the Barrel.

LikeABosh · Post #544 » by **LikeABosh** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:00 am

Mags FTW wrote:LaFleur said they would've gone for it if they marked it short.

I'm glad. QB sneak probably seals it then

WeekapaugGroove · Post #545 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:13 am

Graham got there. If we're going to play the bitch about refs there was a lot of holding on some of Wilsons scambles.

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th87 · Post #546 » by **th87** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:15 am

Pete Carroll went MM and punted. Had he not, I think they win.

TroyD92 · Post #547 » by **TroyD92** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:29 am

Had no idea AD was such a huge Packer fan. Pretty cool experience for him.

LikeABosh · Post #548 » by **LikeABosh** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:17 am

th87 wrote:Pete Carroll went MM and punted. Had he not, I think they win.

4th and 11, 3 timeouts, and the 2 minute warning. I really don't think that's an MM level screw up

RiotPunch · Post #549 » by **RiotPunch** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:42 am

AD TO WISCONSIN

THANK YOU COBB

LikeABosh · Post #550 » by **LikeABosh** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:56 am

RiotPunch wrote:AD TO WISCONSIN

THANK YOU COBB

And KCP lmao

BUCKnation · Post #551 » by **BUCKnation** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:45 pm

Javale and Rondo were there too

Post #552 » by **paulpressey25** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:01 pm

th87 wrote:Pete Carroll went MM and punted. Had he not, I think they win.

Sort of agree here. Packers were having an extreme time trying to contain Wilson in the second half. He was a one man wrecking crew.

Think you could justify it either way.

JimmyTheKid · Post #553 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:05 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:That photo of the Graham play is pretty misleading. If you watch the replay on DVR at slo-mo as I just did numerous times now, you see that Graham is stretched out in the air (but not down) at the point of that photo. And the guy is 6-7”. So by the time his head and the ball hit the ground, he’s at the 36.

Big props to Jimmy Graham. In real time I thought he was down well before the marker. After a few replays there was nothing to overturn the spot. But the combination of simply catching that pass, keeping his feet, and lunging toward the first down while being tackled had such a tremendously high degree of difficulty. Especially considering what we've seen out of JimmyG all season in terms of going down immediately the second he's touched by an opposing tackler. Incredible individual effort to put the game away.

JimmyTheKid · Post #554 » by **JimmyTheKid** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:09 pm

McCarthy definitely runs three times to force Seattle timeouts and punts in the same situation, no?

Love that LaFleur has "played to win" all season. Something most McCarthy detractors have been begging for for what seems like a decade. Because Aaron Rodgers. One year with a new coach and its like, f***ing finally!

Frank Nova · Post #555 » by **Frank Nova** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:29 pm

LikeABosh wrote:
th87 wrote:Pete Carroll went MM and punted. Had he not, I think they win.

4th and 11, 3 timeouts, and the 2 minute warning. I really don't think that's an MM level screw up

Yeah this is an awful assessment imho. We sacked them on 3rd down to force 4th and long. They had 4 chances to stop the clock with the 2min warning to have plenty of time left for 1 last drive. 99.9% of coaches punt in that situation and assume the OTHER team goes full out MM and punts the ball back and only takes 24secs off the clock.

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chuckleslove · Post #556 » by **chuckleslove** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:47 pm

If not for an amazing audible and throw to Adams on 3rd down Seattle would have gotten the ball back with 2 timeouts and the 2 minute warning so it almost worked for them.

We just took care of business and executed for once l

WeekapaugGroove · Post #557 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:16 pm

Frank Nova wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
th87 wrote:Pete Carroll went MM and punted. Had he not, I think they win.

4th and 11, 3 timeouts, and the 2 minute warning. I really don't think that's an MM level screw up
Yeah this is an awful assessment imho. We sacked them on 3rd down to force 4th and long. They had 4 chances to stop the clock with the 2min warning to have plenty of time left for 1 last drive. 99.9% of coaches punt in that situation and assume the OTHER team goes full out MM and punts the ball back and only takes 24secs off the clock.

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That sack by Preston was huge. I think they go for it without that.

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th87 · Post #558 » by **th87** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:53 pm

Frank Nova wrote:
LikeABosh wrote:
th87 wrote:Pete Carroll went MM and punted. Had he not, I think they win.

4th and 11, 3 timeouts, and the 2 minute warning. I really don't think that's an MM level screw up
Yeah this is an awful assessment imho. We sacked them on 3rd down to force 4th and long. They had 4 chances to stop the clock with the 2min warning to have plenty of time left for 1 last drive. 99.9% of coaches punt in that situation and assume the OTHER team goes full out MM and punts the ball back and only takes 24secs off the clock.

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Anyone advocating for punting lacked feel for what was happening. The Packers defense was completely gassed and had no answer.

That third down sack was basically the only play they had made the whole quarter. First down they dropped an easy one, second was a positive gain, and third down, the sack. Was it really likely the exhausted Packers would make two plays in a row? I would highly doubt that. They hadn't the entire second half.

They chose to take it out of the hands of their best player and left it up to the defense who had serious difficulty containing Rodgers and Adams, who needed only 20 yards to win the game.

MM would be *destroyed* for this. This is much worse than not going for 2 after Rodgers hit two Hail Marys.

Happy for their miscalculation though.

Bernman · Post #559 » by **Bernman** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:16 pm

th87 wrote:Anyone advocating for punting lacked feel for what was happening. The Packers defense was completely gassed and had no answer.

That third down sack was basically the only play they had made the whole quarter. First down they dropped an easy one, second was a positive gain, and third down, the sack. Was it really likely the exhausted Packers would make two plays in a row? I would highly doubt that. They hadn't the entire second half.

They chose to take it out of the hands of their best player and left it up to the defense who had serious difficulty containing Rodgers and Adams, who needed only 20 yards to win the game.

MM would be *destroyed* for this. This is much worse than not going for 2 after Rodgers hit two Hail Marys.

Happy for their miscalculation though.

It's a false dichotomy. Both choices would have been debatable. On 4th and 11, odds would have been against conversion, and if they didn't do it that would have nearly ended the game. But odds were against getting the ball back and then winning w/ the better field position and probably point differential yet less time. It's a trade-off.

They were 2 inches away from the scenario where they got the ball back. It wouldn't have been in better field position because a couple of Packers' 1st downs. But you can't expect that. Normally a defense gets a stop in that situation.

If the Packers wouldn't have gotten the favorable spot on Graham's catch they'd have been in a similar predicament. Punt and make them go the whole field w/ 1:38 and no TO's (I tend to be on the more aggressive side, but that's where I was leaning). Or try to get the 2 inches, they probably achieve, but knowing if they don't time isn't really a factor for Seattle anymore. The Packers' defense would have had to stop a unit that was out-playing them from getting 2-3 first downs. And Seattle would have had a lot more than 1 play per series to work with. Happy for the miscalculation on the spot though.

HaroldinGMinor · Post #560 » by **HaroldinGMinor** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:20 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
th87 wrote:Pete Carroll went MM and punted. Had he not, I think they win.

Sort of agree here. Packers were having an extreme time trying to contain Wilson in the second half. He was a one man wrecking crew.

Think you could justify it either way.

I think you let the best player on the field do his thing instead of relying on a shaky defense to get two stops. Wilson was literally a one man wrecking crew in the 2nd half when Seattle finally decided to abandon the run. He single handedly could have won that thing. If anything he is a massively underrated QB given the ineptitude of their offensive philosophy.