Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA?

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#201 » by GoochyMane » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:11 am

imagine deciding on a player half thru their first season
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#202 » by Threezus » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:42 am

I will say this for Cam he did miss prtty much the entire offseason and preseason with us. Not sure how much that hurt him at the beginning of the season and until now. But hopefully it starts clicking for him more and he keeps improving little by little. as said im a Cam Reddish guy as he was who i wanted in the draft based on his upside at 10. so im gonna ride with him until i can't anymore if he never shows he can reach the next level. But for a rookie just now reaching the nba and missing quite a bit of the offseason im gonna atleast give him next season to start showing up more before i start going in on him much. I usually say it's a 3 year process for people who need time to mature and reach their potential.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#203 » by Time for Change » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:09 am

GoochyMane wrote:imagine deciding on a player half thru their first season


There is quote, which unfortunately I can’t find right now, about how long it takes to find out if a guy can play or not, and the answer was three hard practices. This was in regards to Darko, and how all the Pistons knew he couldn’t be a player in the NBA almost immediately.

You don’t need to give a guy 2, 3, 4 years to prove he is a bust or not the right fit.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#204 » by GrindCityHustle » Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:17 am

He is as of right now basically RJ Hunter except taken in the lottery instead as of a late 1st.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#205 » by God Squad » Sat Jan 18, 2020 10:21 am

Great game for Reddish. If we can criticize him for the bad, we should acknowledge the good.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#206 » by jayu70 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 12:48 pm

GrindCityHustle wrote:He is as of right now basically RJ Hunter except taken in the lottery instead as of a late 1st.

RJ Hunter??? In what way?
As much as Cam has struggled shooting his defense has been stellar.
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Post#208 » by mattg » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:02 pm

Maybe reddish can turn it around and become a solid 3+D guy. However he’s got such a long way to go, it’s telling when people are super excited and talking him up using fractional samples to show he’s still shooting really poorly, but framing it as a big positive.

Granted, I’ve only watched him play vs my team and tons in college, but he was horrific, to be nice about it. The only time he looked semi passable is when the shot falls, just think that despite his man defense his floor game and intangibles are too poor to every be a big impact player.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#209 » by BladeKor » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:14 pm

People were saying Trae was a bust last season, year 2 and he is already, like a top 5 pg.
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Post#210 » by Pharmcat » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:16 pm

mattg wrote:Maybe reddish can turn it around and become a solid 3+D guy. However he’s got such a long way to go, it’s telling when people are super excited and talking him up using fractional samples to show he’s still shooting really poorly, but framing it as a big positive.

Granted, I’ve only watched him play vs my team and tons in college, but he was horrific, to be nice about it. The only time he looked semi passable is when the shot falls, just think that despite his man defense his floor game and intangibles are too poor to every be a big impact player.


he was hurt in college if I recall and had some surgery afterwards

I think we have to wait for until year 2 to pass judgment on him
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Post#211 » by jayu70 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:21 pm

Cam Reddish has completed half his rookie season.
Monthly Splits to date:

Month: FG% / 3P% / TS%

Oct: 0.209 / 0.056 / 0.279
Nov: 0.320 / 0.279 / 0.428
Dec: 0.359 / 0.310 / 0.467
Jan: 0.391 / 0.400 / 0.527

Continued improvement as the season progresses.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#212 » by mattg » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:25 pm

Pharmcat wrote:
mattg wrote:Maybe reddish can turn it around and become a solid 3+D guy. However he’s got such a long way to go, it’s telling when people are super excited and talking him up using fractional samples to show he’s still shooting really poorly, but framing it as a big positive.

Granted, I’ve only watched him play vs my team and tons in college, but he was horrific, to be nice about it. The only time he looked semi passable is when the shot falls, just think that despite his man defense his floor game and intangibles are too poor to every be a big impact player.


he was hurt in college if I recall and had some surgery afterwards

I think we have to wait for until year 2 to pass judgment on him

He was hurt for the last game of the year, but he didn’t even tell his team that he was injured and wasn’t going to play until the pregame shoot around. He was fine for the other 30 games.
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Post#213 » by jayu70 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 4:30 pm

mattg wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
mattg wrote:Maybe reddish can turn it around and become a solid 3+D guy. However he’s got such a long way to go, it’s telling when people are super excited and talking him up using fractional samples to show he’s still shooting really poorly, but framing it as a big positive.

Granted, I’ve only watched him play vs my team and tons in college, but he was horrific, to be nice about it. The only time he looked semi passable is when the shot falls, just think that despite his man defense his floor game and intangibles are too poor to every be a big impact player.


he was hurt in college if I recall and had some surgery afterwards

I think we have to wait for until year 2 to pass judgment on him

He was hurt for the last game of the year, but he didn’t even tell his team that he was injured and wasn’t going to play until the pregame shoot around. He was fine for the other 30 games.

IIRC, a knee injury is what kept him out that game. However, he had rib and core injury he played through for most of the year.
Hence why he needed surgery before the draft.
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Post#214 » by jbk1234 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:37 pm

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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#215 » by mattg » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:43 pm

jayu70 wrote:
mattg wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:
he was hurt in college if I recall and had some surgery afterwards

I think we have to wait for until year 2 to pass judgment on him

He was hurt for the last game of the year, but he didn’t even tell his team that he was injured and wasn’t going to play until the pregame shoot around. He was fine for the other 30 games.

IIRC, a knee injury is what kept him out that game. However, he had rib and core injury he played through for most of the year.
Hence why he needed surgery before the draft.

His dad after the season claimed Cam played with broken ribs most of the year and a broken toe yet there was never even a hint of anything all season. Also happens to mention in passing a past groin injury for no real reason. Smells like an after the fact excuse to justify/explain why Cam played so horrifically as a freshman in an effort to preserve his draft stock as his production profile just wasn’t of an nba prospect at all. And obviously it worked, he still went lotto and people think he was actually all sorts of injured all year.
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Post#216 » by marco102 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 7:53 pm

mattg wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
mattg wrote:He was hurt for the last game of the year, but he didn’t even tell his team that he was injured and wasn’t going to play until the pregame shoot around. He was fine for the other 30 games.

IIRC, a knee injury is what kept him out that game. However, he had rib and core injury he played through for most of the year.
Hence why he needed surgery before the draft.

His dad after the season claimed Cam played with broken ribs most of the year and a broken toe yet there was never even a hint of anything all season. Also happens to mention in passing a past groin injury for no real reason. Smells like an after the fact excuse to justify/explain why Cam played so horrifically as a freshman in an effort to preserve his draft stock as his production profile just wasn’t of an nba prospect at all. And obviously it worked, he still went lotto and people think he was actually all sorts of injured all year.


There were reports about his injuries. He was injured in preason that's why he didn't play with Duke during their Canada tour. He also got the rib injury sometime before the first North Carolina game I believe, but the Hawks GM and Coach discussed his injuries before the season. You know they actually get his medical records so it's not something made up by his dad.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#217 » by jayu70 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:10 pm

mattg wrote:
jayu70 wrote:
mattg wrote:He was hurt for the last game of the year, but he didn’t even tell his team that he was injured and wasn’t going to play until the pregame shoot around. He was fine for the other 30 games.

IIRC, a knee injury is what kept him out that game. However, he had rib and core injury he played through for most of the year.
Hence why he needed surgery before the draft.

His dad after the season claimed Cam played with broken ribs most of the year and a broken toe yet there was never even a hint of anything all season. Also happens to mention in passing a past groin injury for no real reason. Smells like an after the fact excuse to justify/explain why Cam played so horrifically as a freshman in an effort to preserve his draft stock as his production profile just wasn’t of an nba prospect at all. And obviously it worked, he still went lotto and people think he was actually all sorts of injured all year.

This stuff is really easy to find without much effort.
After the Blue-White scrimmage Duke Basketball Head Coach Mike Krzyzewski announced that Reddish suffered a fractured rib in practice on Tuesday but has been playing through the injury after consulting with the teams medical staff and coaches.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/balldurham.com/2018/10/19/duke-basketball-cam-reddish-playing-fractured-rib/amp/
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Post#218 » by kg01 » Sat Jan 18, 2020 8:30 pm

What is it about the kid makes people so keen on disparaging him. Now guy's claiming he faked the injuries?

Yeesh.
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Re: Is Cam Reddish the worst starter in the NBA? 

Post#219 » by GoochyMane » Sun Jan 19, 2020 10:00 pm

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GoochyMane wrote:imagine deciding on a player half thru their first season


There is quote, which unfortunately I can’t find right now, about how long it takes to find out if a guy can play or not, and the answer was three hard practices. This was in regards to Darko, and how all the Pistons knew he couldn’t be a player in the NBA almost immediately.

You don’t need to give a guy 2, 3, 4 years to prove he is a bust or not the right fit.




you kinda do though. players aren't finished products right away and have to grow.
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