2019-2020 Trade Deadline Thread

[ThunderBolt]

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[Dadouv47]

Portland trying to pay less in taxes instead of improving their roster...

[ThunderBolt]

Portland has obviously been devastated by injuries but this year really says something for how lousy teams like the kings, wolves and phx are. The west was as open as its been in year.ps. Between us and the warriors taking a step back, the opportunity to make a playoff appearance is right there for the taking. Yet they still are basement dwellers.

[spearsy23]

Caleb swanigan going back to the team that drafted him to end his career. How is this not a bigger story?

[ThunderBolt]

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It’s a shame that teams that are buying aren’t great fits with the pieces we have available.

Article in the athletic by John Hollinger said the Portland trade likely sets up other moves to get Portland completely out of the tax so they don’t face the repeater tax in the coming years. In other words, they are punting on this season.
Per the athletic :

With Portland’s announcement that they are open for business, the question is what the Blazers can do now to get themselves under the tax entirely. This is a potentially important consideration, given that they’re likely to either threaten or land in the tax in each of the next four seasons, and thus could face some ugly repeater bills if they’re in the tax this year too. Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum alone will combine to make over $86M in 2023-24; between those two and the $2.6M in dead money still on the books in that year for Andrew Nicholson’s contract (may it rest in peace), the Blazers only have $70M left below the projected tax to pay the other 13 players.

[CROklahoma]

Its clear CP3 has a huge player value, which should still net us with some positive player asset.

Presti is gonna be a busy man in upcoming weeks.

[Dadouv47]

Its clear CP3 has a huge player value, which should still net us with some positive player asset.

Presti is gonna be a busy man in upcoming weeks.

Huge contract as well, so only way to get value from him is if we take back another bad contract (Horford, Griffin, Wiggins etc.)

[ThunderBolt]

I will say that Royce was wrong in his article. They heat would be better with cp3.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Huge contract as well, so only way to get value from him is if we take back another bad contract (Horford, Griffin, Wiggins etc.)

While salary matching is a requirement in NBA trades it doesn't have to be another bad contract. It can be a large expiring contract. I don't expect CP3 to get moved this season. Maybe in the off-season when the cap jumps $16M and there will be teams that could take on the contract while sending out less money due to space in what will be a weak FA class. We are talking about a FA class where Gallinari and VanVleet can be argued as the best UFAs.

Looking specifically at PGs that teams could sign you are talking about VanVleet, Isaiah Thomas (he's having a nice bounce back year), Teague and Dragic as your best options. Would you want any of them over CP3 if you had the choice even if you had to give up an asset or two to get CP3? I'd take VanVleet, but after missing on him CP3 is likely to be the best PG available. Jrue could also be on what NOLA decides to do going forward and how Zion plays the rest of the season. If I am a team looking to contend I don't want Thomas, Teague or Dragic as my starting PG, although the others would be good coming off the bench.

[Dadouv47]

Trying to find some prospects we could trade for but it's pretty tough (the good ones are untouchable and the others...not worth trading assets). Any ideas about players to target? Ideia would be to give up a player that has some value (Schroeder, Gallo) and a late FRP (Denver 1st, Miami 2021 FRP).

I would obviously pay a lot for guys like Collins or Isaac but no way we could get them.

[Kizz Fastfists]

Trying to find some prospects we could trade for but it's pretty tough (the good ones are untouchable and the others...not worth trading assets). Any ideas about players to target? Ideia would be to give up a player that has some value (Schroeder, Gallo) and a late FRP (Denver 1st, Miami 2021 FRP).

I think Phoenix might be a destination for something like Schroder, Denver 1st and Miami's 2021 first. Phoenix is rumored to be wanting another ball handler for their second unit. If they would take that package for Bridges, Cam Johnson and Jevon Carter I'd be happy. Bridges and Johnson would give OKC two very good wing prospects and Carter is a promising combo guard. Salaries would have to balance so throw in Tyler Johnson, overpaid garbage but is an expiring, from Phoenix with Nader and Burton going from OKC. It gets OKC out of the tax. As long as Phoenix doesn't see one of Bridges, Johnson or Carter as their 3rd star next to Booker and Ayton they probably do something like that to have draft capital to move up for a player or players they think could be their 3rd star.

[ThunderBolt]

The bulls are a team that I could see doing something foolish. Their owner was rumored to be disappointed in their poor start. Perhaps garpax feels pressure and is willing to move a young guy. Same could be said for the Knicks and Phx too.
Isaac is a nice player but he can’t stay healthy. I don’t think he would be worth the price even if Orlando wanted to move him.

[Galloisdaman]

Be careful what you wish for. Being a perennial bottom dweller for years on end is no fun. Way too many teams that have played that role for most of the last 10-20 years.

[Old Man Game]

I'm to the point I think I might be okay with keeping Chris Paul for the end of his contract. I am really enjoying his presence on this roster.

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[Dadouv47]

I'm to the point I think I might be okay with keeping Chris Paul for the end of his contract. I am really enjoying his presence on this roster.

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I would definitely be ok. The question is : would he be ok with this? If not, it could be ugly.

[Galloisdaman]

I'm to the point I think I might be okay with keeping Chris Paul for the end of his contract. I am really enjoying his presence on this roster.

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Crazy as it sounds this current team has a 2 year window to roll the dice on something big. They should package some draft choices and go for a difference maker. If KAT became available for a center and a handful of draft picks this team would have a legit chance this season. I think many of those picks should be used as assets to trade for a big time guy as long as he is not older than 26.

KAT
Gallo
SF
SGA
CPS
Schroeder

That team could battle the rest of the West teams IMO.

[Balkman32]

I will say that Royce was wrong in his article. They heat would be better with cp3.

He said Miami was better off w/o CP3? Wow - I mean this dude came in and reshaped our culture, and bought in with Billy and they are now running an actual offense.

I think its safe to say that the Heat would be better off with CP3 if they could have gotten the Thunder to take on Waiters, Dragic & Olynyk.

The issue is the final year of CP's contract and how its an expiring contract the year after Giannis' free agency & Miami's lack of assets to move in this deal. I don't see a move happening. But, Miami would have to be taken real seriously if they can find a way to add CP3.

[ThunderBolt]

I will say that Royce was wrong in his article. They heat would be better with cp3.

He said Miami was better off w/o CP3? Wow - I mean this dude came in and reshaped our culture, and bought in with Billy and they are now running an actual offense.

I think its safe to say that the Heat would be better off with CP3 if they could have gotten the Thunder to take on Waiters, Dragic & Olynyk.

The issue is the final year of CP's contract and how its an expiring contract the year after Giannis' free agency & Miami's lack of assets to move in this deal. I don't see a move happening. But, Miami would have to be taken real seriously if they can find a way to add CP3.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28505221/miami-heat-oklahoma-city-thunder-benefiting-chris-paul-staying-put

There are a lot of teams going to be disappointed when Giannis doesn't sign with them.

[Dadouv47]

I will say that Royce was wrong in his article. They heat would be better with cp3.

He said Miami was better off w/o CP3? Wow - I mean this dude came in and reshaped our culture, and bought in with Billy and they are now running an actual offense.

I think its safe to say that the Heat would be better off with CP3 if they could have gotten the Thunder to take on Waiters, Dragic & Olynyk.

The issue is the final year of CP's contract and how its an expiring contract the year after Giannis' free agency & Miami's lack of assets to move in this deal. I don't see a move happening. But, Miami would have to be taken real seriously if they can find a way to add CP3.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/28505221/miami-heat-oklahoma-city-thunder-benefiting-chris-paul-staying-put

There are a lot of teams going to be disappointed when Giannis doesn't sign with them.

and teams could still give up some assets to get rid of CP3 in 2021. Just don't get it at all...

[Balkman32]

Especially an expiring deal. Even thought its $44 million i still feel like it wouldn't be that difficult to move him, especially if you have Giannis committed, plus they could use CP3 in a sign and trade to get him from the Bucks.