Kobe Bryant Discussion, Part Two

[lakerz12]

I'm saying this from a humble place and mean no disrespect toward the pilot or his family. And I am not an aviation expert. But:

I don't understand why he thought it was okay to fly at that altitude.

Was he completely ignorant of the fact that there are hills at that altitude?

Seems like a blatant and dumb error. It doesn't add up with the fact that he is supposedly a very experienced pilot.

Maybe he didn't have a lot of experience in that region and was off his normal path. Also, why didn't someone in Air Traffic Control tell him that there were hills at that altitude or did they?

It seems like it would cross anyone's mind that being that low was a risk. Observers have said there was no evidence that anything was wrong with the helicopter.

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[The Laker Kid]

My teenage son is not taking this really well. He has a huge Kobe poster in his room and he told me this morning that he tears up everytime he looks at it. We sat down on the stairs and I told him, sometimes I watch Tatum's turnaround jumper and see Kobe's moves.. when I watch Trey Young drive, I see Kobe. When I watch Booker's circus shots I see Kobe. When I see Lebron's angry emotion, I see Kobe. So you see, he's not really dead. He is still with us and we still get to see him via these players. He nodded and I left for work.

His body may have died, but Mamba lives forever.

[DS17]

LA and the lakers lost their biggest star.

[Tron Carter]

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News organizations should protect their journalists, not acquiesce to the mob when it comes for them.

The Washington Post not only failed Felicia Sonmez, but set a dangerous precedent.

Yes lets spin the attention whore using tragedy as a vehicle to generate clicks into a referendum of a “dangerous precedent” for journalism.

She has no journalistic integrity. She was just baiting.

[alienswon]

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[ATRAIN53]

Story in LA Times says a student at flight school said-

“He doesn’t let anyone else fly him around but Ara,” Kemp said.

Makes me think he really trusted the guy. The pilot makes the final decision to fly or not.

but it makes you wonder how hard it is to say "NO" to Kobe Bryant.

[OkcSinceSGA]

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News organizations should protect their journalists, not acquiesce to the mob when it comes for them.

The Washington Post not only failed Felicia Sonmez, but set a dangerous precedent.

Yes lets spin the attention whore using tragedy as a vehicle to generate clicks into referendum for a “dangerous precedent” for journalism.

She has no journalistic integrity. She was just baiting.

This #METOO stuff is getting really pervasive. I'm not going to derail this thread with politics, but if people can't see why this was EXTREMELY out of line to throw out the rape case immediately after a tragedy took 9 lives... they are a **** idiot, too stupid to be employed by any respectable company. I'm all for freedom of speech etc, but the complete disregard here and lack of respect is something a mother **** moron does. It's just incredibly sick.

[Slava]

Spoiler:

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News organizations should protect their journalists, not acquiesce to the mob when it comes for them.

The Washington Post not only failed Felicia Sonmez, but set a dangerous precedent.

What her and you are doing is the definition of baiting at a time of sorrow and grief. How about you both take a pause and choose a different place to troll for a few days?

[Beethoven]

My teenage son is not taking this really well. He has a huge Kobe poster in his room and he told me this morning that he tears up everytime he looks at it. We sat down on the stairs and I told him, sometimes I watch Tatum's turnaround jumper and see Kobe's moves.. when I watch Trey Young drive, I see Kobe. When I watch Booker's circus shots I see Kobe. When I see Lebron's angry emotion, I see Kobe. So you see, he's not really dead. He is still with us and we still get to see him via these players. He nodded and I left for work.

His body may have died, but Mamba lives forever.

NICE

[GiannisNowitzki]

I'm tired of feeling the way I do today. One day in. Basketball has always been something to help distract me from all of the bs in life, but not today. I imagine that every single NBA player is struggling with life today, and I can't begin to guess the emotions that each of them feel as they have to play tonight. I guess that if there's any silver lining in any of this, it's to serve as a reminder of Kobe's unstateable impact and love that is so magnified now. I'm in the anger stage of grief.

[MagicBagley18]

I'm saying this from a humble place and mean no disrespect toward the pilot or his family. And I am not an aviation expert. But:

I don't understand why he thought it was okay to fly at that altitude.

Was he completely ignorant of the fact that there are hills at that altitude?

Seems like a blatant and dumb error. It doesn't add up with the fact that he is supposedly a very experienced pilot.

Maybe he didn't have a lot of experience in that region and was off his normal path. Also, why didn't someone in Air Traffic Control tell him that there were hills at that altitude or did they?

It seems like it would cross anyone's mind that being that low was a risk. Observers have said there was no evidence that anything was wrong with the helicopter.

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TMZ has said that he did have experience in that area but again it’s tmz I think obviously we will never know but u have to chalk it up as he just panicked. It happened so quick so fast and you go from visibility to no visibility if he did in fact get caught in a cloud layer. I’m sure on board there was panick as well- children involved etc.

Again there’s no excuses but it’s just a terrible stress filled situation that require immediate decisions which can impact lives

[Jayt99]

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News organizations should protect their journalists, not acquiesce to the mob when it comes for them.

The Washington Post not only failed Felicia Sonmez, but set a dangerous precedent.

Yes lets spin the attention whore using tragedy as a vehicle to generate clicks into a referendum of a “dangerous precedent” for journalism.

She has no journalistic integrity. She was just baiting.

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Washington post has its bases covered. She deserved what she got. Made a terrible tweet then panicked at the backlash and messed up. Instant karma.

[SFour]

insight into why Kobe used helicopters @36:20 mark

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[Mickey8]

I never been fan of Kobe and his game but this is just sad , he was way too young and all those people who died with him especially kids, tragedy.

[Jayt99]

insight into why Kobe used helicopters @36:20 mark

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The man was so dedicated to trying to make time for his family. This one hurts.

[GA34]

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Thank you made me smile in this tough time

[Beethoven]

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News organizations should protect their journalists, not acquiesce to the mob when it comes for them.

The Washington Post not only failed Felicia Sonmez, but set a dangerous precedent.

Yes lets spin the attention whore using tragedy as a vehicle to generate clicks into referendum for a “dangerous precedent” for journalism.

She has no journalistic integrity. She was just baiting.

This #METOO stuff is getting really pervasive. I'm not going to derail this thread with politics, but if people can't see why this was EXTREMELY out of line to throw out the rape case immediately after a tragedy took 9 lives... they are a **** idiot, too stupid to be employed by any respectable company. I'm all for freedom of speech etc, but the complete disregard here and lack of respect is something a mother **** moron does. It's just incredibly sick.

Amen . thank you sir.


(I cant believe im actually saying "amen thank you sir" to a clipper fan. but so be it)

[lakerz12]

I'm saying this from a humble place and mean no disrespect toward the pilot or his family. And I am not an aviation expert. But:

I don't understand why he thought it was okay to fly at that altitude.

Was he completely ignorant of the fact that there are hills at that altitude?

Seems like a blatant and dumb error. It doesn't add up with the fact that he is supposedly a very experienced pilot.

Maybe he didn't have a lot of experience in that region and was off his normal path. Also, why didn't someone in Air Traffic Control tell him that there were hills at that altitude or did they?

It seems like it would cross anyone's mind that being that low was a risk. Observers have said there was no evidence that anything was wrong with the helicopter.

Watch on YouTube

TMZ has said that he did have experience in that area but again it’s tmz I think obviously we will never know but u have to chalk it up as he just panicked. It happened so quick so fast and you go from visibility to no visibility if he did in fact get caught in a cloud layer. I’m sure on board there was panick as well- children involved etc.

Again there’s no excuses but it’s just a terrible stress filled situation that require immediate decisions which can impact lives

It didn't happen that quickly though, that's the thing.

Not even counting all of the time prior to the final minutes (that he was hovering around Glendale, for example---he could have probably landed somewhere if he wanted to) - - -

If you watch the above video with the eye/ear witness account, the helicopter was traveling at a very low speed (I think he said maybe 3-7 MPH).

There was plenty of time to think that maybe we are at too low of an altitude.

See the Air Traffic Control person that said "you are still too low" - - but it wasn't said with a lot of urgency.

But it's not like the helicopter suddenly dropped and fell to this hill level.

He was traveling slowly at this altitude for a prolonged period of time. My question is why the thought didn't occur that this was a dangerous altitude.

Maybe he was trying to avoid being in the fog. But that was obviously a blatant error.

[gold_leader64]

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News organizations should protect their journalists, not acquiesce to the mob when it comes for them.

The Washington Post not only failed Felicia Sonmez, but set a dangerous precedent.

they did nothing wrong by suspending her

She was simply seeking attention and being a complete idiot during this time of sorrow.

So...like every major news network?

[Pillendreher]

I'm saying this from a humble place and mean no disrespect toward the pilot or his family. And I am not an aviation expert. But:

I don't understand why he thought it was okay to fly at that altitude.

Was he completely ignorant of the fact that there are hills at that altitude?

Seems like a blatant and dumb error. It doesn't add up with the fact that he is supposedly a very experienced pilot.

Maybe he didn't have a lot of experience in that region and was off his normal path. Also, why didn't someone in Air Traffic Control tell him that there were hills at that altitude or did they?

It seems like it would cross anyone's mind that being that low was a risk. Observers have said there was no evidence that anything was wrong with the helicopter.

Watch on YouTube

TMZ has said that he did have experience in that area but again it’s tmz I think obviously we will never know but u have to chalk it up as he just panicked. It happened so quick so fast and you go from visibility to no visibility if he did in fact get caught in a cloud layer. I’m sure on board there was panick as well- children involved etc.

Again there’s no excuses but it’s just a terrible stress filled situation that require immediate decisions which can impact lives

I have no idea whatsoever about aircraft navigation, so please excuse my naivite: Can't you use GPS to least know where you are? When I'm caught in the fog with my car and can't see further than a couple of feet ahead of me, I can at least turn to my car's navigational system to know where I'm at.