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Post#141 » by NippySudz » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:34 am

One Love wrote:LBJ is barking at him allot more during games... He needs to get back to being a “fire plug” for us & stop with the off-season drama (Puma deal, hair, celebs, parties, etc...)....

He could go either way right now... I am scared he will do something dumb & lose sight of basketball before being grounded...

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I don't think the off the court stuff are as big distractions as some might think.

I truly think he's just not being patient and not studying the game from an IQ perspective. He needs to do a better job of reading the game.

Maybe he'll get there. Maybe he'll never get there. Who knows

But I think that's why he's inconsistent. If he could make reads, he's avg 10pts off that consistently alone. You mix in his talent, that's a cool 15-20pts a night.

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Post#142 » by stan francisco » Tue Jan 28, 2020 1:18 pm

He just needs to flick that switch in his head now. Back to playing team ball. He needs to remember that he doesn’t have to score or prove stuff every time he touches the rock. Just pass it and move off the ball!
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Post#143 » by NippySudz » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:08 pm

stan francisco wrote:He just needs to flick that switch in his head now. Back to playing team ball. He needs to remember that he doesn’t have to score or prove stuff every time he touches the rock. Just pass it and move off the ball!
If that's all he was doing wrong, there wouldn't be a lot of barking from his teammates.

Like I said he doesn't let the game come to him. Giving the sixers an extra possession at the end of tne half is just one example.

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Post#144 » by BEazy » Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:18 pm

I think we’re going to see a different Kuzma guys. This is going to motivate everybody. Lakers are going to be crazy focused.
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Post#145 » by NippySudz » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:00 pm

ScHoolBoy B wrote:I think we’re going to see a different Kuzma guys. This is going to motivate everybody. Lakers are going to be crazy focused.
The whole league is going to be sharper. I'm not sure stating that means anything.

Kobe influenced a lot of players. A lot.

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Post#146 » by stan francisco » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:27 am

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stan francisco wrote:He just needs to flick that switch in his head now. Back to playing team ball. He needs to remember that he doesn’t have to score or prove stuff every time he touches the rock. Just pass it and move off the ball!
If that's all he was doing wrong, there wouldn't be a lot of barking from his teammates.

Like I said he doesn't let the game come to him. Giving the sixers an extra possession at the end of tne half is just one example.

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Uh, what would infuriate a team mate more than watching a team mate ignoring and not playing the team ball they’ve practiced? I’d guess this is why they’re pissed. He’s caught up by now in conditioning and learning curve delay. My advise would be no more excuses, nothing to prove individually for $1.9M per year, so just play the team ball you’re coached to play and all will fall in place.
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Post#147 » by NippySudz » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:43 am

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stan francisco wrote:He just needs to flick that switch in his head now. Back to playing team ball. He needs to remember that he doesn’t have to score or prove stuff every time he touches the rock. Just pass it and move off the ball!
If that's all he was doing wrong, there wouldn't be a lot of barking from his teammates.

Like I said he doesn't let the game come to him. Giving the sixers an extra possession at the end of tne half is just one example.

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Uh, what would infuriate a team mate more than watching a team mate ignoring and not playing the team ball they’ve practiced? I’d guess this is why they’re pissed. He’s caught up by now in conditioning and learning curve delay. My advise would be no more excuses, nothing to prove individually for $1.9M per year, so just play the team ball you’re coached to play and all will fall in place.
You really think Kyle kuzma is playing inconsistent because because he's focused on himself?

Okay, what about the nights he goes 2-6 for four points?

I think he does pay attention to the box score but I think it has to do with patience and understanding the game on a cerebral level

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Post#148 » by stan francisco » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:48 am

Cheers. He needs to give to get, not force it. If he wants the ball a bit more and not be yelled at, yes.
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Post#149 » by NippySudz » Wed Jan 29, 2020 1:54 am

stan francisco wrote:Cheers. He needs to give to get, not force it. If he wants the ball a bit more and not be yelled at, yes.
I think him being selfish is the more convenient excuse to hide his flaws as a basketball player. Just my opinion .. There are some nights he's not being super aggressive with his shot and as a result doesn't score as much. There are times where he's overcommitting in passing and gets bad turn overs

I really don't think he knows how to play on a cerebral level to capitalize most on the limited looks he's getting coming off the bench.

KCP and him play about the same mins and KCP can find his 11ppg within the system.

Kuz can do that if not more with consistency bball IQ and talent

I don't know if he gain the high bballiq but if he lets it come to him a little bit, work his spots, he'll be better. It's too easy to say he's selfishly thinking about himself. The same way it was too convenient to blame lack of training camp for his recent stretch prior to ad going out. But people did it anyway

This is why I said playoff basketball will help him grow as a player and slow things down for him

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Post#150 » by stan francisco » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:00 am

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stan francisco wrote:Cheers. He needs to give to get, not force it. If he wants the ball a bit more and not be yelled at, yes.
I think him being selfish is the more convenient excuse to hide his flaws as a basketball player. Just my opinion .. There are some nights he's not being super aggressive with his shot and as a result doesn't score as much. There are times where he's overcommitting in passing and gets bad turn overs

I really don't think he knows how to play on a cerebral level to capitalize most on the limited looks he's getting coming off the bench.

KCP and him play about the same mins and KCP can find his 11ppg within the system.

Kuz can do that if not more with consistency bball IQ and talent

I don't know if he gain the high bballiq but if he lets it come to him a little bit, work his spots, he'll be better. It's too easy to say he's selfishly thinking about himself. The same way it was too convenient to blame lack of training camp for his recent stretch prior to ad going out. But people did it anyway

This is why I said playoff basketball will help him grow as a player and slow things down for him

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Watch some of last season, please. I stopped reading after the first sentence. Inform yourself. I’ve said it about 100 times before in this thread, watch the home stretch of last season. Then we can talk.
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Post#151 » by kblo247 » Wed Jan 29, 2020 4:43 pm

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stan francisco wrote:Cheers. He needs to give to get, not force it. If he wants the ball a bit more and not be yelled at, yes.
I think him being selfish is the more convenient excuse to hide his flaws as a basketball player. Just my opinion .. There are some nights he's not being super aggressive with his shot and as a result doesn't score as much. There are times where he's overcommitting in passing and gets bad turn overs

I really don't think he knows how to play on a cerebral level to capitalize most on the limited looks he's getting coming off the bench.

KCP and him play about the same mins and KCP can find his 11ppg within the system.

Kuz can do that if not more with consistency bball IQ and talent

I don't know if he gain the high bballiq but if he lets it come to him a little bit, work his spots, he'll be better. It's too easy to say he's selfishly thinking about himself. The same way it was too convenient to blame lack of training camp for his recent stretch prior to ad going out. But people did it anyway

This is why I said playoff basketball will help him grow as a player and slow things down for him

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I will not say he isn’t over thinking but I will point out to you that kcp struggled last year with this.

Kcp struggled going to the bench and needed a year to get it all together. He played well late last year but that was because he got to start with injuries. Kuz is where kcp was last year, trying to figure out how to come off the bench and be effective while giving the team what it needs. Kcp last year to me tried a lot to do what he thought the team needed, defense, force shots, ball handling, and crashing for boards in traffic areas over just being kcp. Now I see Kuz trying hard to try and give the team the pass, the d, etc it needs over just being Kuz.
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Post#152 » by NippySudz » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:34 am

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stan francisco wrote:Cheers. He needs to give to get, not force it. If he wants the ball a bit more and not be yelled at, yes.
I think him being selfish is the more convenient excuse to hide his flaws as a basketball player. Just my opinion .. There are some nights he's not being super aggressive with his shot and as a result doesn't score as much. There are times where he's overcommitting in passing and gets bad turn overs

I really don't think he knows how to play on a cerebral level to capitalize most on the limited looks he's getting coming off the bench.

KCP and him play about the same mins and KCP can find his 11ppg within the system.

Kuz can do that if not more with consistency bball IQ and talent

I don't know if he gain the high bballiq but if he lets it come to him a little bit, work his spots, he'll be better. It's too easy to say he's selfishly thinking about himself. The same way it was too convenient to blame lack of training camp for his recent stretch prior to ad going out. But people did it anyway

This is why I said playoff basketball will help him grow as a player and slow things down for him

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Watch some of last season, please. I stopped reading after the first sentence. Inform yourself. I’ve said it about 100 times before in this thread, watch the home stretch of last season. Then we can talk.


I know rust exists but I don't think that excuses bball IQ nor time and score.

I don't think one can say refer to last yr during one stretch to highlight this guy has high basketball IQ when he's shooting the ball with plenty of time left multiple times in multiple games. I believe he did that in Utah (twice) but he made it.

But we'll see.

I'll be looking forward to the second half of the season. You're his ardent supporter so I hope for your sake, he's ready to be consistent in the second half of the season.

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Post#153 » by NippySudz » Thu Jan 30, 2020 10:59 am

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stan francisco wrote:Cheers. He needs to give to get, not force it. If he wants the ball a bit more and not be yelled at, yes.
I think him being selfish is the more convenient excuse to hide his flaws as a basketball player. Just my opinion .. There are some nights he's not being super aggressive with his shot and as a result doesn't score as much. There are times where he's overcommitting in passing and gets bad turn overs

I really don't think he knows how to play on a cerebral level to capitalize most on the limited looks he's getting coming off the bench.

KCP and him play about the same mins and KCP can find his 11ppg within the system.

Kuz can do that if not more with consistency bball IQ and talent

I don't know if he gain the high bballiq but if he lets it come to him a little bit, work his spots, he'll be better. It's too easy to say he's selfishly thinking about himself. The same way it was too convenient to blame lack of training camp for his recent stretch prior to ad going out. But people did it anyway

This is why I said playoff basketball will help him grow as a player and slow things down for him

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I will not say he isn’t over thinking but I will point out to you that kcp struggled last year with this.

Kcp struggled going to the bench and needed a year to get it all together. He played well late last year but that was because he got to start with injuries. Kuz is where kcp was last year, trying to figure out how to come off the bench and be effective while giving the team what it needs. Kcp last year to me tried a lot to do what he thought the team needed, defense, force shots, ball handling, and crashing for boards in traffic areas over just being kcp. Now I see Kuz trying hard to try and give the team the pass, the d, etc it needs over just being Kuz.
I think it's kuz not playing to his strengths(trying to be things he's not or do things he can't do) and I also think it has to do with a bit of the coaching. Trying to keep him engaged in the game because sometimes there are games or times in the games where he looks completely uninterested.

People say he can shoot teams out of a game but we've seen this yr he will barely attempt any at all and put up single digit games.

I don't buy the kuzma hype. I think he's overrated by a portion of the Lakers fanbase.

But I do think he's better than what's he's showing. If kuz would allow the game to come to him, play patiently he'd be more of a consistent player imo.

Star? Nah I don't think so but he'd be more consistent.

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Post#154 » by stan francisco » Thu Jan 30, 2020 3:46 pm

I think you should try to understand that many of us here are still waiting for him to play like he did last season. If you haven’t watched him before this season, how can you argue against it? I’m out.
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Post#155 » by LAKESHOW » Thu Jan 30, 2020 5:16 pm

Kuz still looks like hes tryin to figure it out. Where he fits. Whats his role. Ive said this about caruso, not the most talented. But KNOWS HIS ROLE, and plays extremely hard in that limited area. Kuz does seems confused at times when to attack. When to pass. When to slice and cut. He has got to reel that in mentally. There is no teaching of it with this coach, Kuz is gonna have to figure that out on his own. We are hoping that this gets done in the 2nd half.
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Post#156 » by NippySudz » Thu Jan 30, 2020 11:23 pm

stan francisco wrote:I think you should try to understand that many of us here are still waiting for him to play like he did last season. If you haven’t watched him before this season, how can you argue against it? I’m out.
I have watched him before. Last yr is when I was on the kuz train before I quickly got off. I just never paid attention to his flaws last yr.

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Post#157 » by LAKESHOW » Fri Jan 31, 2020 8:28 pm

According to wiretap, Kings offered Pick and Bjelica for Kuz. We asked for the other guy with a euro name, think bodanovic, both offers rejected.
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Post#158 » by Landsberger » Sat Feb 1, 2020 2:04 am

LAKESHOW wrote:According to wiretap, Kings offered Pick and Bjelica for Kuz. We asked for the other guy with a euro name, think bodanovic, both offers rejected.


I think Kuz is gone. This is a win now team at the moment. He needs time to adjust and we're not going to wait. It is what it is and there is no reason to believe we want to in any way develop anyone anymore.
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Post#159 » by Danny Darko » Sat Feb 1, 2020 8:39 am

Kuz failed in the big moments and is redundant. goodbye kuz, and I'll miss the young lakers. but... bye bye weakling. Off to Detroit for Rose & Morris
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Post#160 » by NippySudz » Sat Feb 1, 2020 11:11 am

Danny Darko wrote:Kuz failed in the big moments and is redundant. goodbye kuz, and I'll miss the young lakers. but... bye bye weakling. Off to Detroit for Rose & Morris
He didn't play well defensively last night but dude..he was the only Laker outside of LeBron and ad that showed up last night and he got 15 boards.

I got to give him some credit for being an to play at all given the memorial.


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