Rookie Discussion [19/20] [part I]

[THE J0KER]

Out of the rookies which played more than 5 games and 10 minutes per game, 7 have PER over 15 so far.

24.58 Zion Williamson, NO
21.91 Brandon Clarke, MEM
20.04 Michael Porter Jr., DEN
18.42 Ja Morant, MEM
18.17 Jaxson Hayes, NO
17.19 Daniel Gafford, CHI
16.03 Terence Davis, TOR

[zimpy27]

i mean, even if he was a jr, Cam Johnson was a 5th yr senior and went 11th overall, so not sure that's entirely it

NBA realgms are honestly just incompetent for the most part, there are only a handful that really know what they're doing (Masai is one) the rest kinda seem like they're just spitballing hoping a few stick here and there.

This is true, it makes you wonder what the path is to become a GM. Could someone on this forum get there?

im sure it's possible, Spencer from the draft board did consulting for NBA teams (maybe still does).

Masai got there working for free as a scout and working his way up. I'm guessing if youre motivated enough and got enough resiliency to failure, many could work there way to a FO position.

So scouting talent seems to be the best way to get there. I suppose it's hard to prove success or failure in a shorter time frame than a year. Seems like Ujiri took 5 years to break-through to a paid role.

[FinNasty]

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Except on Tacko...

you gotta love the big fat font and everything written in capitals as if it was some memorable legendary quote that will survive for centuries

Damn straight it is...

He said that and everyone was like “OMG WHAT HAS HE DONE?!?!!1??”

...and then he went out and backed it up. Instant legend!

[TraBuch]

I mean, I guess technically he backed up his talk in that Zion wasn’t able to dunk on him, but he did put up 32/11/4 in that game.

[FinNasty]

I mean, I guess technically he backed up his talk in that Zion wasn’t able to dunk on him, but he did put up 32/11/4 in that game.

Not when Tacko was on the floor...

[Marcus]

I mean, I guess technically he backed up his talk in that Zion wasn’t able to dunk on him, but he did put up 32/11/4 in that game.

Not when Tacko was on the floor...

who you got in a re-draft?

[FinNasty]

I mean, I guess technically he backed up his talk in that Zion wasn’t able to dunk on him, but he did put up 32/11/4 in that game.

Not when Tacko was on the floor...

who you got in a re-draft?

Obviously Tacko... who wouldn’t?

[Jurassic_Park]

Ja won obviously.... but who finishes 2nd?

[NO-KG-AI]

I mean, I guess technically he backed up his talk in that Zion wasn’t able to dunk on him, but he did put up 32/11/4 in that game.

Not when Tacko was on the floor...

Didn’t Zion finish an and 1 that tied the game over Tacko in the waning seconds?

[FinNasty]

I mean, I guess technically he backed up his talk in that Zion wasn’t able to dunk on him, but he did put up 32/11/4 in that game.

Not when Tacko was on the floor...

Didn’t Zion finish an and 1 that tied the game over Tacko in the waning seconds?

Yep, he got the And 1. Tacko should have just fouled him hard, but he had 4 fouls and was trying to not foul out. In hindsight... he should have just crushed Zion, but it is what it is. That was a heart breaker lol...

Regardless... the impact Tacko had on Zion that game was huge.

[VCfor3]

A little late but Wednesday against the Mavs Ja had 21pts on 10-12 from the field (1-2 from 3) with 3 assists.

Clarke had 18pts on 7-10 from the field (1-2 from 3) with 6 rebounds, 3 assists, and a block.

[Fat]

Ja won obviously.... but who finishes 2nd?

I’d give it to herro 2nd

[drosereturn]

Out of the rookies which played more than 5 games and 10 minutes per game, 7 have PER over 15 so far.

24.58 Zion Williamson, NO
21.91 Brandon Clarke, MEM
20.04 Michael Porter Jr., DEN
18.42 Ja Morant, MEM
18.17 Jaxson Hayes, NO
17.19 Daniel Gafford, CHI
16.03 Terence Davis, TOR

Yeah Gafford is a top 10 pick in a redraft. Easily take him over White #7.
Him and Clarke, Porter have played way above their draft position.

[clyde21]

Ja won obviously.... but who finishes 2nd?

I’d give it to herro 2nd

1. Zion
2. Ja
3. Herro
4. MPJr
5. Davis

HMs: Rui, PJ, RJ, Clarke

[RaptorsLife]

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[Young gun 6]

With Ja looking likely for a Unanimous ROTY campaign who do we think comes 2-5 and all rookie teams?

1) Ja


2) Zion
3) MPJ
4) Nunn
5) Davis

All Rookie Teams:

Ja/Garland
Nunn/Davis
MPJ/Barrett
Zion/Rui
Clarke/Paschall

[Amare_1_Knicks]

I was trying to think of where to post this, and this is as good a place as any. A few weeks ago after Morant had another great performance social media was abuzz and Shannon Sharpe and T-Mac in particular had some hot takes. Sharpe said Morant will have a better career than Zion and McGrady said he’s going to be an MVP and the best player in the game.

T-Mac’s statement isn’t so egregious on its own, but the point is that they were both saying these things without having seen Zion play a game yet. He’s only 8 games in but he’s had an incredibly strong start to his career and I’m not sure whose better between the two. I just don’t get the rush to ‘anoint’ someone as the best this, or best that, especially when the #1 pick in his draft hasn’t played yet.

Zion through 8 games: 20/7.5/2 on 61%TS and a 22.5 PER

The Pelicans are quite a bit better with him on the floor and it’s CLEAR when watching them that they are.

[clyde21]

all rook teams

G Ja Morant
G Tyler Herro
F Michael Porter Jr.
F Zion Williamson
C Brandon Clarke

G Darius Garland
G Terence Davis
F Rui Hachimura
F PJ Washington
C Jaxson Hayes

G Coby White
G Kendrick Nunn
F Matisse Thybulle
F RJ Barrett
C Daniel Gafford

usually i struggle making 2 all rook teams but this was easy

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[VCfor3]

Ja with the triple double to lead Memphis back from a double digit deficit. Not too shabby.