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Re: Dame Time on Twitter! 

Post#41 » by Trey24 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 9:49 am

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reflex35 wrote:He made a point in post-game interview. I respect that and he's right.

But there's no reason to go to social networks and repeat that once again. Nothing will change.
Bad call unfortunately, but let's move on and not cry. There are a lot of bad calls happening each game.


I disagree completely..Only way to change things is to keep highlighting whats wrong until it's fixed. It's always the same excuses being made every time bad officiating ruins games. ''Bad calls happen move on''...How about fixing things?


This call right here, and the oproar afterwards WORLDwide, from players, media to fans, will result in further enhancement of the replay rules. "Shut up and move on" is not something that is going to spark change.

Just blasphemous refereeing at the end of another Jazz game that goes to their benefit. How many is this? 3 or 4 end of game situations where they obviously call a bs call which benefits the jazz? And thats just the ones that I have watched, ALL of which have involved Rudy Gobert. Why is he getting such preferential treatment from the refs in end of game situations?
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Post#42 » by Catchall » Sat Feb 8, 2020 9:52 am

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Catchall wrote:So first of all, yes, that was a badly missed goaltending call and it's inexcusable. However, there were bad calls all game, a few of which directly resulted in points for the Blazers.

Second of all, if goaltending were called, the game would have been tied, and the Jazz would have possession with an opportunity to win the game in regulation, and another opportunity to win the game in overtime. Blazers would have had a chance to win the game, but that call alone didn't singlehandedly cost them the game. That wasn't a game-winning shot attempt by Lillard. It would have sent the game into OT if the Jazz couldn't convert anything in their final possession.


To be fair, I though Lillard was clearly fouled on the final play as well. I also thought the refs missed a clear flagrant on O'Neal's undercutting of Simons.

I wouldn't say that the refs cost the Blazers the game. But they cost the Blazers a legitimate chance at winning the game. Which is plenty bad.


Okay, but when Hezonja traveled along the baseline before throwing a pass out to Gary Trent for a 3pt that he converted, that was a missed call that resulted in 3 pts for the Blazers.

When Juwan Morgan played good position defense in the lane and CJ McCollum leaned into him for a score and-1, that was another point for the Blazers.

The play with Simons and Royce O'Neale was a no call, imo, let alone a flagrant-1. Simons is jumping sideways and dangling both his legs forward. It's a strange play that Royce O'Neale couldn't anticipate and didn't have much time to react to. He had his back turned when the contact happened.

Maybe the fact that Carmelo shot 2 for 10, or that Lillard shot 7-for-19 in the 2nd half, or that Ariza blew his stack and got ejected early were all factors.

If that were a game-winning shot by Lillard, I could see people saying the refs cost the Blazers the game. As far as I'm concerned, it's likely that the Jazz would have gotten another good shot in the final 9 secs. and could still have won in regulation.
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Re: Dame Time on Twitter! 

Post#43 » by Roy The Natural » Sat Feb 8, 2020 9:58 am

Catchall wrote:
Roy The Natural wrote:
Catchall wrote:So first of all, yes, that was a badly missed goaltending call and it's inexcusable. However, there were bad calls all game, a few of which directly resulted in points for the Blazers.

Second of all, if goaltending were called, the game would have been tied, and the Jazz would have possession with an opportunity to win the game in regulation, and another opportunity to win the game in overtime. Blazers would have had a chance to win the game, but that call alone didn't singlehandedly cost them the game. That wasn't a game-winning shot attempt by Lillard. It would have sent the game into OT if the Jazz couldn't convert anything in their final possession.


To be fair, I though Lillard was clearly fouled on the final play as well. I also thought the refs missed a clear flagrant on O'Neal's undercutting of Simons.

I wouldn't say that the refs cost the Blazers the game. But they cost the Blazers a legitimate chance at winning the game. Which is plenty bad.


Okay, but when Hezonja traveled along the baseline before throwing a pass out to Gary Trent for a 3pt that he converted, that was a missed call that resulted in 3 pts for the Blazers.

When Juwan Morgan played good position defense in the lane and CJ McCollum leaned into him for a score and-1, that was another point for the Blazers.

The play with Simons and Royce O'Neale was a no call, imo, let alone a flagrant-1. Simons is jumping sideways and dangling both his legs forward. It's a strange play that Royce O'Neale couldn't anticipate and didn't have much time to react to. He had his back turned when the contact happened.

Maybe the fact that Carmelo shot 2 for 10, or that Lillard shot 7-for-19 in the 2nd half, or that Ariza blew his stack and got ejected early were all factors.

If that were a game-winning shot by Lillard, I could see people saying the refs cost the Blazers the game. As far as I'm concerned, it's likely that the Jazz would have gotten another good shot in the final 9 secs. and could still have won in regulation.


There were plenty of missed calls both ways. I could go into all of them if you'd like. Neither team benefited from the whistle throughout the course of the game in my opinion.

Blazers had 14 freethrows to the Jazz's 24. You're not going to be able to effectively argue that the Jazz deserved 30 freethrows while ignoring the fact that the Blazers had many that were left uncalled as well. I though overall the game was fairly called, and that's what made the last play more egregious. There was NO POINT in this game where the Jazz were getting screwed.

They got to the line plenty of times. Were the Blazers overly physical at times? Absolutely. Were the Jazz overly physical at times? Absolutely.

Edit: Let me clarify. The game was fairly officiated as far as foul calls IMO. I didn't complain. There were plenty of times I wanted to. There were plenty of fouls that I saw where as a Blazer fan I thought the refs missed a call. But I also saw plenty of fouls that Portland got away with. There was no foul disparity favoring the Blazers.

HOWEVER, the game was ABYSMALLY officiated from a control perspective. They allowed the game to get way to physical on both sides. That is why tempers began to flare. The refs never took control of the game, and allowed it to spiral out of control with frustration. That all culminated with a horrendous missed call to end the game.

It was a terrible game for NBA reffing. But it was somewhat fairly terrible until the end. It would have been nice to see how the game ended in the universe where the refs did their jobs though.
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Re: Dame Time on Twitter! 

Post#44 » by Jables » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:04 am

I feel like people have subtly accepted that referees can do whatever they want a long time ago, nothing will change by this point. When referees sabotage challenges by completely ignoring them being called just nothing happens, it's like no one cares and there's no accountability.

We've always seen referees act spitefully, unprofessionally and right here we've seen referees deny an obvious goaltend when multiple of them had to have been looking at the ball. Sometimes it's a hard job, but this isn't some Hanlon's Razor bs.
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Post#45 » by Catchall » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:05 am

Have a good night y'all.
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Post#46 » by And1+2 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:07 am

How do you start a movement? The NBA needs a public outcry. We need to get mad. It's the only way we can change this BS, the players don't have the power.
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Post#47 » by Scott Hall » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:22 am

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Post#48 » by Lakers In 5 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:35 am

I fully agree with Lillard and I am glad he's the one to draw the line. Look, losing is the easiest thing in the world to accept if another team just outplays you, or if they performed better than you down the stretch, but losing due to human error that is not within your power is awful. People make mistakes, you can miss a call, how obvious it may seem. Hell, players make more mistakes a game than referees do. But when a referee fails to see something, it is 1). not within your own power, 2). there is nothing you can do about it.

The NBA should help their referees by making these things reviewable. Instead all we get is a godawful report from the NBA that 1). throws their own employees under the bus, 2). changes absolutely nothing to what just transpired. This has been costing teams wins, it's been costing them playoff series. Someone had to say enough is enough and draw the line. Lillard has just done that, good for him. Silver needs to change something that really matters, instead of intoxicating the league with dumb ideas.
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Post#49 » by E-Balla » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:36 am

Myth wrote:Based on CJ's comments, it seems that they were more upset with how the refs handled the miss call rather than missing the call in the first place. He stopped just short of calling the refs unprofessional.

If they really told them it wasn't close fire the whole crew.
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Post#50 » by E-Balla » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:38 am

Demagoog wrote:I fully agree with Lillard and I am glad he's the one to draw the line. Look, losing is the easiest thing in the world to accept if another team just outplays you, or if they performed better than you down the stretch, but losing due to human error that is not within your power is awful. People make mistakes, you can miss a call, how obvious it may seem. Hell, players make more mistakes a game than referees do. But when a referee fails to see something, it is 1). not within your own power, 2). there is nothing you can do about it.

The NBA should help their referees by making these things reviewable. Instead all we get is a godawful report from the NBA that 1). throws their own employees under the bus, 2). changes absolutely nothing to what just transpired. This has been costing teams wins, it's been costing them playoff series. Someone had to say enough is enough and draw the line. Lillard has just done that, good for him. Silver needs to change something that really matters, instead of intoxicating the league with dumb ideas.

The league did make goaltends reviewable though that's the egregious part. They just have to blow the whistle if it's even iffy and then they're allowed to go check at the table. That's what makes this egregious, there's 3 of y'all there and all you have to do is blow a whistle if it's even close to a goaltend then go to the scorer's table. 3 refs and no one thought that was even close to a goaltend?
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Post#51 » by Lalouie » Sat Feb 8, 2020 1:28 pm

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Post#52 » by DrCoach » Sat Feb 8, 2020 1:43 pm

This is a Billion dollar industry.

NBA has to do better.

Very frustration for Liliard and Port Fans
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Post#53 » by OdomFan » Sat Feb 8, 2020 1:46 pm

It's always something with these referees.
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Post#54 » by DTP » Sat Feb 8, 2020 1:55 pm

Not a good look for Lillard & McCollum post game....I understand heat of the moment but especially the social media stuff I'm not a fan of. Hope the league comes down hard but I know they won't because Silver & Co. let these guys do wtf they want.

Officials are human and take up for each other, good luck Dame & CJ getting any benefit of the doubt the next couple of games. Seeing how Ariza went off earlier in the night at an official, wouldnt surprise me if that's the reason the last call Utah got the benefit of the doubt. That's not right I know but as I said, people are human. Overall players need to play and stop all the whining.
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Post#55 » by Soulyss » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:06 pm

EGame wrote:Mitchell is such a dunce lol. Utah will lose in the first round yet again, they displayed no mental toughness at all tonight. They lost to an undermanned Nuggets team and needed a little extra help to beat an undermanned Blazers team.


This is just part of the learning process for Mitchell... in situations like this you just keep your mouth shut.
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Post#56 » by Soulyss » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:12 pm

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Myth wrote:Based on CJ's comments, it seems that they were more upset with how the refs handled the miss call rather than missing the call in the first place. He stopped just short of calling the refs unprofessional.

If they really told them it wasn't close fire the whole crew.


This is a ridiculous take, no one should lose their job because they make a single mistake in a GAME. If the referee had a history of poor performance, sure... but you don't ruin someone's career over one mistake, egregious or otherwise.

Do you reprimand them privately? Oh hell yes. Do you issue a public apology to the Blazers... most certainly. But firing someone over a single mistake like this does not solve the officiating problem.
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Post#57 » by Lysdexic » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:12 pm

Curious how many people supporting Dame right now simultaneously bashed Harden and the Rockets for the botched call by the ref on a made dunk. Not even a missed goal tend. But a steal that lead to a breakaway dunk that wasn't counted.
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Post#59 » by NBAFan93 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:24 pm

Oh look - more double standards for golden boy Dame and the Blazers. The Rockets literally had a basket got through the hoop and weren’t awarded 2 points and were mocked by everyone for being upset about it and protesting. I guess this is somehow different though.
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Post#60 » by EGame » Sat Feb 8, 2020 4:36 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:Oh look - more double standards for golden boy Dame and the Blazers. The Rockets literally had a basket got through the hoop and weren’t awarded 2 points and were mocked by everyone for being upset about it and protesting. I guess this is somehow different though.


I have no idea about this situation so I cant really comment but I would love to see the video. How does the ball go through the basket and you don't get awarded 2 points? Unless an offensive foul or something was called that makes no sense at all. But this has nothing to do with Dame being a "golden boy" or the Blazers for that matter. This could have happened to any team last night and it would be just as much BS still. And this play is what myself and many are asking for some sort of replay in system so you get this right. It was already an easy call to make, but the speed of the game is too much for these poor souls.

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