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Re: Dame Time on Twitter! 

Post#81 » by Lysdexic » Sat Feb 8, 2020 7:39 pm

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That's normal Jazz behavior.

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Post#82 » by NBAFan93 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 7:40 pm

Marcus_Shart wrote:The Harden missed dunk call was ridiculous as well, and people did put up a little stink about it. People weren't as up in arms over it simply because there was time left, and Houston was up double digits. This Gobert goaltend would have tied a game with mere seconds left. There was enough time for the Jazz to get a good look to ice the game, but it's no guarantee they make it. Seems to me like it was a combination of the refs just wanting to end a chippy game, and Ariza going at one of them earlier just made the decision to turn a blind eye easier for them. The stakes were a lot higher here especially for an injured team fighting for the last spot in the playoffs. Feels like Houston fans ITT are just displaying their victim complex over Harden.


Stakes are high for the Rockets too. One game could totally change their playoff seeding. I know both situations are bad, but the outcry of “poor Blazers, poor Lillard, what an outrage“...is what’s annoying. Even Woj was tweeting about it. The attitude was that cause the Rockets are the Rockets they should just suck it up and real w/ losing 2 points - when the game ended in a tie and an OT loss - so obviously those two points mattered.

There was a team Twitter that beat the Rockets shortly after that happened (or maybe it was after their protest w/ the league was denied) that tweeted “protest that” and everyone was laughing - I think it might have actually been the Blazers. Edit - it was the Kings. Still people were laughing like it’s funny for the Rockets to get screwed, but cause it’s the league’s lovable Golden Boy and his underperforming team everyone feels bad.
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Post#83 » by Roy The Natural » Sat Feb 8, 2020 8:12 pm

NBAFan93 wrote:Oh look - more double standards for golden boy Dame and the Blazers. The Rockets literally had a basket got through the hoop and weren’t awarded 2 points and were mocked by everyone for being upset about it and protesting. I guess this is somehow different though.


Extremely stupid take. A missed call with a ton of time left isn't the same thing as one with 19 seconds left in the game.

A really lazy take by you, and a complete false equivalency.
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Post#84 » by NBAFan93 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 8:19 pm

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Myth wrote:Please point out the all-star game that Lillard cried his way into instead of earned his way into.


Years ago. It's not relevant now, I think at this point Dame would trade all future All-Star games just to sneak into the playoffs this year. If he doesn't make it in it's going to suck. The injury luck this year has been insane for the Blazers.

That isn't really an answer. Lillard complained one season, and wasn't put in it (I think he should have been, but whatever). So you think one of the all-star games Lillard made after that he didn't deserve the selection? I would love to hear the case for which all-star game after that complaint he didn't actually deserve and only got in because of the complaint. Was it his very next all-star selection? The one during the season that he led Portland to the 3rd seed on 26.9/4.5/6.6? I'm genuinely curious, because I think it is a ridiculous take that one of his last 3 all-star selections (the only ones post complaint) was because of his public complaint.


IIRC the Blazers record at the time he made that 2018 All Star game was seen as an underperformance. Yes by the end things worked out that he should have made it, but at the time he was one of the borderline guys. The top snub that year he made it in as a reserve was Paul George his first year on the Thunder (who was also a team who was seen as underperforming in late January). PG eventually got in when Boogie got injured I believe.

I remember many people saying Dame got the nod over PG cause Dame complained the prior year and that the Thunder didn’t deserve two all stars cause they were expected to be a top 2-3 seed and were something like 5th or 6th - but IIRC they still had more wins than Portland at the time.
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Re: Dame Time on Twitter! 

Post#85 » by Mephariel » Sat Feb 8, 2020 8:21 pm

I think the difference between this and other calls is that goaltending is easily reviewable and non-subjective.

Why can't they just have a guy reviewing goaltending/out of bound plays similar to a soccer ref reviewing off-side calls?
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Post#86 » by Roy The Natural » Sat Feb 8, 2020 8:25 pm

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Years ago. It's not relevant now, I think at this point Dame would trade all future All-Star games just to sneak into the playoffs this year. If he doesn't make it in it's going to suck. The injury luck this year has been insane for the Blazers.

That isn't really an answer. Lillard complained one season, and wasn't put in it (I think he should have been, but whatever). So you think one of the all-star games Lillard made after that he didn't deserve the selection? I would love to hear the case for which all-star game after that complaint he didn't actually deserve and only got in because of the complaint. Was it his very next all-star selection? The one during the season that he led Portland to the 3rd seed on 26.9/4.5/6.6? I'm genuinely curious, because I think it is a ridiculous take that one of his last 3 all-star selections (the only ones post complaint) was because of his public complaint.


IIRC the Blazers record at the time he made that 2018 All Star game was seen as an underperformance. Yes by the end things worked out that he should have made it, but at the time he was one of the borderline guys. The top snub that year he made it in as a reserve was Paul George his first year on the Thunder (who was also a team who was seen as underperforming in late January). PG eventually got in when Boogie got injured I believe.

I remember many people saying Dame got the nod over PG cause Dame complained the prior year and that the Thunder didn’t deserve two all stars cause they were expected to be a top 2-3 seed and were something like 5th or 6th - but IIRC they still had more wins than Portland at the time.


I think you're recalling incorrectly. Blazer didn't struggle much in either 2017-18 or 2018-19. It was the 2016-17 season where they were bad until the Nurkic trade saved their season.
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Post#87 » by NBAFan93 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 8:25 pm

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NBAFan93 wrote:Oh look - more double standards for golden boy Dame and the Blazers. The Rockets literally had a basket got through the hoop and weren’t awarded 2 points and were mocked by everyone for being upset about it and protesting. I guess this is somehow different though.


Extremely stupid take. A missed call with a ton of time left isn't the same thing as one with 19 seconds left in the game.

A really lazy take by you, and a complete false equivalency.


It wasn’t just a “missed call” - it was a basketball going through the hoop during the game. Much bigger deal, much less outrage. It’s cause of who the player is this time versus then that the attitude is different.
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Post#88 » by NBAFan93 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 8:38 pm

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Myth wrote:That isn't really an answer. Lillard complained one season, and wasn't put in it (I think he should have been, but whatever). So you think one of the all-star games Lillard made after that he didn't deserve the selection? I would love to hear the case for which all-star game after that complaint he didn't actually deserve and only got in because of the complaint. Was it his very next all-star selection? The one during the season that he led Portland to the 3rd seed on 26.9/4.5/6.6? I'm genuinely curious, because I think it is a ridiculous take that one of his last 3 all-star selections (the only ones post complaint) was because of his public complaint.


IIRC the Blazers record at the time he made that 2018 All Star game was seen as an underperformance. Yes by the end things worked out that he should have made it, but at the time he was one of the borderline guys. The top snub that year he made it in as a reserve was Paul George his first year on the Thunder (who was also a team who was seen as underperforming in late January). PG eventually got in when Boogie got injured I believe.

I remember many people saying Dame got the nod over PG cause Dame complained the prior year and that the Thunder didn’t deserve two all stars cause they were expected to be a top 2-3 seed and were something like 5th or 6th - but IIRC they still had more wins than Portland at the time.


I think you're recalling incorrectly. Blazer didn't struggle much in either 2017-18 or 2018-19. It was the 2016-17 season where they were bad until the Nurkic trade saved their season.


2016-2017 was the year Dame didn’t make it and he complained. In 2017-2018 he got in. Based on an article I just looked up, the All Star reserves were announced on 1/23/18 - on that date the Blazers were 7th in the West w/ a 25-22 record. Thunder were in 5th w/ a 27-20 record and PG didn’t make it. There was at least some room for controversy at the time. And yes, I remember people saying it was cause Lillard complained the prior season - of course they were biased and wanted their own guy to get it over him, but that’s how those things always are - there was at least enough of a narrative there that it made the media shows, etc.
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Post#89 » by fox2jk » Sat Feb 8, 2020 9:11 pm

This is nothing new. I like the idea of fining the refs (never thought of that) but Adam Silver is a weasel just like David Stern was. The game is rigged and that wont change. This is just 1 of thousands of rigged games by the refs. Gambling is still going on and its all about ratings and money. The lottery draft is rigged for crying out loud. Its a terrible shame.

What will the NBA do? Fine CJ and Dame.
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Post#90 » by Soulyss » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:32 pm

Roy The Natural wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:Oh look - more double standards for golden boy Dame and the Blazers. The Rockets literally had a basket got through the hoop and weren’t awarded 2 points and were mocked by everyone for being upset about it and protesting. I guess this is somehow different though.


Extremely stupid take. A missed call with a ton of time left isn't the same thing as one with 19 seconds left in the game.

A really lazy take by you, and a complete false equivalency.


What do you expect from someone defending Harden... Lazy D all around.
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Post#91 » by MrBigShot » Sat Feb 8, 2020 10:39 pm

Roy The Natural wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:Oh look - more double standards for golden boy Dame and the Blazers. The Rockets literally had a basket got through the hoop and weren’t awarded 2 points and were mocked by everyone for being upset about it and protesting. I guess this is somehow different though.


Extremely stupid take. A missed call with a ton of time left isn't the same thing as one with 19 seconds left in the game.

A really lazy take by you, and a complete false equivalency.


They aren't the same thing to be sure, but I think what the poster was trying to get across is that both impact the game albeit at various points. A missed call earlier in the game can outright change the position two teams are later in the game, i.e. instead of being a tie one team is down by 1 or 2 playing the foul game.

Still, this kind of missed call (and subsequently not being able to review it?) is inexcusable so I 100% support Dame and CJ being really upset and really trying to bring attention to it.
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Post#92 » by Catchall » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:04 pm

CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Blazers should protest that call. If I'm the league, I probably agree to it and have the 2 teams re-play that last remaining bit as a tie game.


You mean, give the Jazz the ball with 9 seconds to try and score to win the game? Really?
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Post#93 » by NBAFan93 » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:08 pm

Soulyss wrote:
Roy The Natural wrote:
NBAFan93 wrote:Oh look - more double standards for golden boy Dame and the Blazers. The Rockets literally had a basket got through the hoop and weren’t awarded 2 points and were mocked by everyone for being upset about it and protesting. I guess this is somehow different though.


Extremely stupid take. A missed call with a ton of time left isn't the same thing as one with 19 seconds left in the game.

A really lazy take by you, and a complete false equivalency.


What do you expect from someone defending Harden... Lazy D all around.


Oh yes - cause Lillard is some elite all world defender. Cmon.
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Post#94 » by CeltsfanSinceBirth » Sat Feb 8, 2020 11:28 pm

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CeltsfanSinceBirth wrote:Blazers should protest that call. If I'm the league, I probably agree to it and have the 2 teams re-play that last remaining bit as a tie game.


You mean, give the Jazz the ball with 9 seconds to try and score to win the game? Really?


Yeah.
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Post#95 » by -HB- » Sun Feb 9, 2020 1:12 am

lamscott wrote:Have the Refs been really inconsistent this season or is it just me. See a lot of new faces too.


Hmmm. It's almost as if betting is legalized.
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Post#96 » by LakerLegend » Sun Feb 9, 2020 1:13 am

How can a professional ref blow a call like that?
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Post#97 » by E-Balla » Sun Feb 9, 2020 2:01 am

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Myth wrote:Based on CJ's comments, it seems that they were more upset with how the refs handled the miss call rather than missing the call in the first place. He stopped just short of calling the refs unprofessional.

If they really told them it wasn't close fire the whole crew.


This is a ridiculous take, no one should lose their job because they make a single mistake in a GAME. If the referee had a history of poor performance, sure... but you don't ruin someone's career over one mistake, egregious or otherwise.

Do you reprimand them privately? Oh hell yes. Do you issue a public apology to the Blazers... most certainly. But firing someone over a single mistake like this does not solve the officiating problem.

If they missed the call that's entirely different than saying it wasn't close. I don't believe for a second you can be competent as a ref and think that wasn't close to a goaltend.
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Post#98 » by Marcus_Shart » Sun Feb 9, 2020 2:06 am

LakerLegend wrote:How can a professional ref blow a call like that?


Well see there was this playoff series between 2 teams in (noticed I said "in" not "from") California way back in May 2002............
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Post#99 » by Catchall » Sun Feb 9, 2020 2:08 am

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Post#100 » by LakerLegend » Sun Feb 9, 2020 2:28 am

Marcus_Shart wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:How can a professional ref blow a call like that?


Well see there was this playoff series between 2 teams in (noticed I said "in" not "from") California way back in May 2002............


You talking about the series where the game with the biggest discrepancy in ft's was in favor of the team that lost the series(Game 5) which also the team that shot more total free throws in the series?

Marcus_Shart wrote:
LakerLegend wrote:How can a professional ref blow a call like that?


(noticed I said "in" not "from")


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