Around the NBA (Non-Celtics) 2019-2020, Part 2 – "The Bubble Bunch"

[Triple7]

Zero chance they'd take Hayward and picks. They'd ask for Tatum, but won't get him. Would be a minimum of Jaylen/Smart/Romeo/Grizz pick, in this hypothetical situation.

then, IMO, they can completely kick sand.

I dont see embiid having that kind of value.

I'd consider it personally, but can definitely see why others wouldn't. Need to consider Sixers would want more for trading him within the division, especially after the Tatum Fultz trade.

Kemba/Hayward/Tatum/Grant/Embiid is a monster team.

We’re better off with a stretch 4, if we have an Embiid. Plus that lineup is slow.

[CeltsfanSinceBirth]

Zero chance they'd take Hayward and picks. They'd ask for Tatum, but won't get him. Would be a minimum of Jaylen/Smart/Romeo/Grizz pick, in this hypothetical situation.

then, IMO, they can completely kick sand.

I dont see embiid having that kind of value.

I'd consider it personally, but can definitely see why others wouldn't. Need to consider Sixers would want more for trading him within the division, especially after the Tatum Fultz trade.

Kemba/Hayward/Tatum/Grant/Embiid is a monster team.

I'd rather give up Kemba than Smart, since Kemba's body is already beginning to break down. It's too bad he didn't make a fuss before the trade deadline. Would have gladly offered them Kemba and Brown, plus picks. Can't work next summer because Jaylen's extension kicks in. Oh well.

Smart/Romeo/Hayward/Tatum/Embiid.....I like it.

[Feed Your Head]

then, IMO, they can completely kick sand.

I dont see embiid having that kind of value.

I'd consider it personally, but can definitely see why others wouldn't. Need to consider Sixers would want more for trading him within the division, especially after the Tatum Fultz trade.

Kemba/Hayward/Tatum/Grant/Embiid is a monster team.

I'd rather give up Kemba than Smart, since Kemba's body is already beginning to break down. It's too bad he didn't make a fuss before the trade deadline. Would have gladly offered them Kemba and Brown, plus picks. Can't work next summer because Jaylen's extension kicks in. Oh well.

Smart/Romeo/Hayward/Tatum/Embiid.....I like it.

I'd 100% have done that as well, trading Smart would devastate me. But yeah it's not going to happen, which is a shame, him and Tatum are a perfect fit.

[5InOfLouisville]

I'd consider it personally, but can definitely see why others wouldn't. Need to consider Sixers would want more for trading him within the division, especially after the Tatum Fultz trade.

Kemba/Hayward/Tatum/Grant/Embiid is a monster team.

I'd rather give up Kemba than Smart, since Kemba's body is already beginning to break down. It's too bad he didn't make a fuss before the trade deadline. Would have gladly offered them Kemba and Brown, plus picks. Can't work next summer because Jaylen's extension kicks in. Oh well.

Smart/Romeo/Hayward/Tatum/Embiid.....I like it.

I'd 100% have done that as well, trading Smart would devastate me. But yeah it's not going to happen, which is a shame, him and Tatum are a perfect fit.

I don't think anybody who shrinks the floor and closes lanes on offense is a perfect fit with Tatum. Or really any dynamic wing.

[Feed Your Head]

I'd rather give up Kemba than Smart, since Kemba's body is already beginning to break down. It's too bad he didn't make a fuss before the trade deadline. Would have gladly offered them Kemba and Brown, plus picks. Can't work next summer because Jaylen's extension kicks in. Oh well.

Smart/Romeo/Hayward/Tatum/Embiid.....I like it.

I'd 100% have done that as well, trading Smart would devastate me. But yeah it's not going to happen, which is a shame, him and Tatum are a perfect fit.

I don't think anybody who shrinks the floor and closes lanes on offense is a perfect fit with Tatum. Or really any dynamic wing.

Embiid doesn't really do that though, the problem is both him and Simmons together clog the lanes. It's so easy to double Embiid with the Sixers being such a horribly flawed roster. You surround him with elite outside shooters? Good luck. Him and Tatum running PnR's or forcing switches would be beyond deadly.

When i say Tatum and Embiid are a perfect fit, i mean because they are both legitimate elite two way talents. And Tatum would open up so much for Embiid, unlike Simmons who is too stubborn to expand his game. He is the problem in that duo, if the Sixers prefer to keep him over Embiid, more power to them.

[5InOfLouisville]

I'd 100% have done that as well, trading Smart would devastate me. But yeah it's not going to happen, which is a shame, him and Tatum are a perfect fit.

I don't think anybody who shrinks the floor and closes lanes on offense is a perfect fit with Tatum. Or really any dynamic wing.

Embiid doesn't really do that though, the problem is both him and Simmons together clog the lanes. It's so easy to double Embiid with the Sixers being such a horribly flawed roster. You surround him with elite outside shooters? Good luck. Him and Tatum running PnR's or forcing switches would be beyond deadly.

Simmons is more the problem, and if the Sixers keep him instead of Embiid, more power to them. The last two seasons the Sixers have a better net rating with Simmons on the bench than when he is in the game, when Embiid is out they have fallen off a cliff.

I don't necessarily mean that it COULDN'T work. And i do believe that, in a vacuum, Embiid is "better" than smart/brown, but in my mind, it's just hard to pay any "traditional" big man max money in the modern era.

The "perfect" fit, for Taytum or any other dynamic wing, always has to open up the floor, in my mind. Embiid doesn't do that because he isn't a credible outside threat.

Now, a big man can also open up lanes by being super active, setting screens and constantly moving, but I don't think Embiid does that either. Theis does this AND stretch the floor and he's much cheaper.

Again, not saying Theis is better than Embiid, or that I couldn't talk myself into an Embiid trade in 2 seconds if it happened.

[100proof]

Give me Thomas Bryant and Lauri Markanen in the offseason.
Hayward stays, great, he and smart come off the bench. Give all picks away, and all youth not named Grant Williams.

[Iguodaladon]

I'm personally loving how the Sixers have become us from last season A stacked team turning up against the big sides and then completely underperforming against everyone else, drama from the best player and the fans convincing themselves that Milwaukee is a fake giant and the team will turn it on in the playoffs.

Al Horford must think he's trapped in a timeloop

[Celts17Pride]

Read on Twitter

Hell of a lot of money to be paying a bench player

[Bleeding Green]

Name the last team that did anything with a high usage center as the best player on the team. I'll hang up and listen.

[MagicBagley18]

then, IMO, they can completely kick sand.

I dont see embiid having that kind of value.

I'd consider it personally, but can definitely see why others wouldn't. Need to consider Sixers would want more for trading him within the division, especially after the Tatum Fultz trade.

Kemba/Hayward/Tatum/Grant/Embiid is a monster team.

I'd rather give up Kemba than Smart, since Kemba's body is already beginning to break down. It's too bad he didn't make a fuss before the trade deadline. Would have gladly offered them Kemba and Brown, plus picks. Can't work next summer because Jaylen's extension kicks in. Oh well.

Smart/Romeo/Hayward/Tatum/Embiid.....I like it.

I honestly don’t think kembas body is breaking down. I think for the 1st time in his career he has the luxury of being able to sit out games and his team doesn’t crumble. I think him and the Celtics are both taking advantage of that. Obviously as he gets older he’ll have more bumps and bruises but I don’t think there any real significant breaking down issues.

[Homerclease]

Wow did we dodge a bullet with Horford. Could this offseason have gone any better?

[reload141]

Wow did we dodge a bullet with Horford. Could this offseason have gone any better?

It's like double good too because Philly are still imploding.

[itrsteve]

Hell of a lot of money to be paying a bench player

It’s still a smart move. I don’t put much into who starts, interested to see if he’s in the finishing lineup though.

Remember when people were crapping on us for having Hayward come off the bench? Sucked to do it in terms of optics, but it was the correct move.

[Theocy]

Hell of a lot of money to be paying a bench player

It’s still a smart move. I don’t put much into who starts, interested to see if he’s in the finishing lineup though.

Remember when people were crapping on us for having Hayward come off the bench? Sucked to do it in terms of optics, but it was the correct move.

Hayward was crap. And that because he wasn't ready yet.

Al is just Al and he won't change. It is the right move for them but it's not as if he will be patiently waiting until he recovers. It won't sit well with him

[K For Three]

I'd consider it personally, but can definitely see why others wouldn't. Need to consider Sixers would want more for trading him within the division, especially after the Tatum Fultz trade.

Kemba/Hayward/Tatum/Grant/Embiid is a monster team.

I'd rather give up Kemba than Smart, since Kemba's body is already beginning to break down. It's too bad he didn't make a fuss before the trade deadline. Would have gladly offered them Kemba and Brown, plus picks. Can't work next summer because Jaylen's extension kicks in. Oh well.

Smart/Romeo/Hayward/Tatum/Embiid.....I like it.

I honestly don’t think kembas body is breaking down. I think for the 1st time in his career he has the luxury of being able to sit out games and his team doesn’t crumble. I think him and the Celtics are both taking advantage of that. Obviously as he gets older he’ll have more bumps and bruises but I don’t think there any real significant breaking down issues.

Kemba deserves more credit for helping to transform what was a toxic wasteland here last season. His leadership has been HUGE, its very underrated. But maybe not by other players who voted him a clear #1 to be all star starter.

We have to load manage him at times though, he literally carried a garbage team for so many years.....

As for Embiid people need to stop, Philly ain't trading him to us. And I need to see how this all develops with him. Sometimes I wonder if he's a 7 foot Kyrie Irving now. All the talent but comes with drama.

I'm not saying btw I would turn down Embiid for Browns/picks or something, but I still am feeling very very cautious of who is here on this team after last season.....

I want guys who want to be Celtics. The Kyrie and AD crap when they both ended up turning their noses up at us is not something I am going to chase anymore as a fan in fantasies. Screw them.

[zoyathedestroya]

Embiid is a back-to-the-basket player. Not much of a rimrunner. I don't think him and Tatum are perfect fits. Just cos of his age, would rather have Jaylen (or Langford) turn into pre-injury Hayward and have the offense run through two elite wings than have a Myles Turner or JJJ type as our center.

[K For Three]

Looks like Philly showed up tonight, lets see if they can hold the lead. I would hate getting the Clippers coming off a loss but some of these west coast teams (like we saw with the Lakers) aren't the same beast out east.

[K For Three]

Oh geez I forgot they had Marcus Morris already until I just saw him score lol.

Who would have thought on last years Celtics disaster that Mook would end up with the best chance to get a ring a year later?

[Celts17Pride]

Clippers going to be tough in the playoffs. They got a ton of firepower on that team.