NBA TV Viewership Down: Warriors Dominance to Blame

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Re: NBA TV Viewership Down: Warriors Dominance to Blame 

Post#21 » by Jazzy13 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:31 pm

slamilcarBarca wrote:
JazzyPhinz wrote:I havent had cable for almost a decade. Im sure theyre not including me and I watch almost every Jazz game.
Its just how it is. Cable is pretty much finished.



how do you watch?

why do you think they aren't including you?


I stream straight from my TV internet browser.
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Post#22 » by dockingsched » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:33 pm

They need to start making these RSN’s available on streaming packages. Drop in ratings needs to be analyzed within the context of people in general moving away from cable/satellite. Need to know the size of the entire pie if you want to juxtapose the size of each slice.
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Post#23 » by slamilcarBarca » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:34 pm

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kobe_vs_jordan wrote:They should put NBA tv on online streaming services like Hulu or stop trying to charge 60 dollars a year for a standalone channel.


NBA TV is a part of package in Youtube TV.

I signed up for nba tv Fromm nba.com and the app for Apple TV was horrible. My bedroom can stream Hulu, nextflix and everything else just fine. Nba team would freeze and require a reboot of the app every few minutes.


why go thru the apple tv app then? why not just stream from nba.com?

when i stream league pass thru nba.com it runs more smoothly than anything else i stream.
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Post#24 » by dockingsched » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:35 pm

JazzyPhinz wrote:I havent had cable for almost a decade. Im sure theyre not including me and I watch almost every Jazz game.
Its just how it is. Cable is pretty much finished.

Same for me. I’d be willing to purchase a streaming service of one were made available, until then, watching my local games in a way their ratings model isn’t going to capture.
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Post#25 » by levon » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:36 pm

I thought parity was good for the league?
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Post#26 » by NBAFan93 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:37 pm

So except for the Jazz, Raptors and Grizzlies, even local ratings are down??? That’s really interesting and not good.

My opinion is that may be related to player impowerment/freedom of movement and people not feeling a sense of attachment to their local teams for fear of disappointment when those players leave them or get traded away.

National ratings being down is a different issue and probably has different causes. I know I definitely watch less national games this year myself, but I think my reasons may be different than those of casuals. Mine are I can’t stand the National announcing crews and their constant sucking up to certain players and teams. Sad when you find the local announcing crew of a team you despise more tolerable than one that is supposed to be neutral.

I think casuals aren’t watching as much cause more than half the basketball fans are in the Eastern time zone and all the stars/teams that the NBA always hypes play too late. Those Eastern fans have moved away from the NBA now that it’s all LA focused and are instead watching college basketball more.
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Post#27 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:37 pm

Scott Hall wrote:We talk about ratings on here all the time...

Isn't it down on all big 4 sports? WWEs ratings are down every year lots of reality shows ratings are down
from what I've read. I don't know any sport or entertainment show that is thriving and getting only
stronger year to year.

There's a million entertainment options now from 20 years ago and it makes no sense to pay for cable anymore.


NFL ratings have gone up for 2 or 3 consecutive seasons now and NHL ratings have gone up for 4 consecutive years. When they talk about ratings its not just cable ratings, they include streaming (legal) numbers in this as well.
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Post#28 » by alebaba » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:38 pm

We all knew it was going to be bad for the league long term when Kd joined the Warriors.
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Post#29 » by NBAFan93 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:40 pm

jg77 wrote:It's not the Warriors dominance...it's no Steph Curry. Curry is arguably the most popular player in the NBA so of course ratings are down when possibly their biggest star is out.


Durant too. And Kyrie.
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Post#30 » by slamilcarBarca » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:44 pm

dockingsched wrote:They need to start making these RSN’s available on streaming packages. Drop in ratings needs to be analyzed within the context of people in general moving away from cable/satellite. Need to know the size of the entire pie if you want to juxtapose the size of each slice.


what RSNs do you not find on streaming packages?

and when nba players are constantly pimping hulu are we supposed to think viewers on that portal (and other similar services) are not being counted?

what i mean is this . . . nba ratings on cable and networks are down. sure. are we supposed to think that the nba and execs at hulu, youtube etc just throw their hands in the air and say we have no idea how many viewers we have and what they are watching?

hulu etc viewers have counted in ratings for regular shows for years. why not for the nba?
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Post#31 » by Tanks1 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:45 pm

Ok, this is the NBA Ratings are down Post for the month
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Post#32 » by dockingsched » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:47 pm

slamilcarBarca wrote:
dockingsched wrote:They need to start making these RSN’s available on streaming packages. Drop in ratings needs to be analyzed within the context of people in general moving away from cable/satellite. Need to know the size of the entire pie if you want to juxtapose the size of each slice.


what RSNs do you not find on streaming packages?

and when nba players are constantly pimping hulu are we supposed to think viewers on that portal (and other similar services) are not being counted?

what i mean is this . . . nba ratings on cable and networks are down. sure. are we supposed to think that the nba and execs at hulu, youtube etc just throw their hands in the air and say we have no idea how many viewers we have and what they are watching?

hulu etc viewers have counted in ratings for regular shows for years. why not for the nba?


Do you know of any RSNs carried by YouTube tv, ATT TV Now, Hulu TV?

I don’t think it’s something that can be addressed until the next round of TV contracts get agreed to.
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Post#33 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:47 pm

slamilcarBarca wrote:
dockingsched wrote:They need to start making these RSN’s available on streaming packages. Drop in ratings needs to be analyzed within the context of people in general moving away from cable/satellite. Need to know the size of the entire pie if you want to juxtapose the size of each slice.


what RSNs do you not find on streaming packages?

and when nba players are constantly pimping hulu are we supposed to think viewers on that portal (and other similar services) are not being counted?

what i mean is this . . . nba ratings on cable and networks are down. sure. are we supposed to think that the nba and execs at hulu, youtube etc just throw their hands in the air and say we have no idea how many viewers we have and what they are watching?

hulu etc viewers have counted in ratings for regular shows for years. why not for the nba?


Ya Ive had PsVue and Hulu, with both I had access to local teams. Streaming numbers are accounted for when dealing with ratings overall now (legal streaming, obviously not illegal).
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Post#34 » by ItsDanger » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:47 pm

I think the league passes for the major sports are all too expensive in comparison to how many games you actually end up watching.
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Post#35 » by dho4ever » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:50 pm

There's a ton of interesting games that don't get a lot of exposure. The main reason to blame is accessibility. No one watches TNT and NBA TV/NBA League pass is a ripoff.

If they had some streaming service that was reasonably priced, they would notice much higher viewership.
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Post#36 » by INKtastic » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:50 pm

KingDavid wrote:ESPN and tnt being down is expected since the warriors and Zion were injured yet still being thrown on tv.


They really need to stop setting the national tv schedule before the season starts and also would do well over the long run to give national exposure to all of the teams.
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Post#37 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:50 pm

dockingsched wrote:
slamilcarBarca wrote:
dockingsched wrote:They need to start making these RSN’s available on streaming packages. Drop in ratings needs to be analyzed within the context of people in general moving away from cable/satellite. Need to know the size of the entire pie if you want to juxtapose the size of each slice.


what RSNs do you not find on streaming packages?

and when nba players are constantly pimping hulu are we supposed to think viewers on that portal (and other similar services) are not being counted?

what i mean is this . . . nba ratings on cable and networks are down. sure. are we supposed to think that the nba and execs at hulu, youtube etc just throw their hands in the air and say we have no idea how many viewers we have and what they are watching?

hulu etc viewers have counted in ratings for regular shows for years. why not for the nba?


Do you know of any RSNs carried by YouTube tv, ATT TV Now, Hulu TV?

I don’t think it’s something that can be addressed until the next round of TV contracts get agreed to.


Yes. Hulu TV has regional sports networks. I had Hulu TV and I got NBC Sports Bay Area and NBC Sports California. I was able to watch both the Warriors and Kings games on Hulu.
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Post#38 » by Scott Hall » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:53 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:We talk about ratings on here all the time...

Isn't it down on all big 4 sports? WWEs ratings are down every year lots of reality shows ratings are down
from what I've read. I don't know any sport or entertainment show that is thriving and getting only
stronger year to year.

There's a million entertainment options now from 20 years ago and it makes no sense to pay for cable anymore.


NFL ratings have gone up for 2 or 3 consecutive seasons now and NHL ratings have gone up for 4 consecutive years. When they talk about ratings its not just cable ratings, they include streaming (legal) numbers in this as well.


Let's face it with NHL ratings there was only one way to go but up lol...

Heard NFL ratings were up since they plummeted a few years ago but is it substantially up?

Also what's the point of legal streaming? lol
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Post#39 » by dho4ever » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:54 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:We talk about ratings on here all the time...

Isn't it down on all big 4 sports? WWEs ratings are down every year lots of reality shows ratings are down
from what I've read. I don't know any sport or entertainment show that is thriving and getting only
stronger year to year.

There's a million entertainment options now from 20 years ago and it makes no sense to pay for cable anymore.


NFL ratings have gone up for 2 or 3 consecutive seasons now and NHL ratings have gone up for 4 consecutive years. When they talk about ratings its not just cable ratings, they include streaming (legal) numbers in this as well.


NFL/Monday night football is American "culture". Its not going away. And its on local channels.

I live in the bay area. I'm about 15 mins driving distance from Oracle Arena (back when the Warriors were good and played there)... and on my local TV stations, I cannot watch Warrior games. Netflix/Hulu has made it pointless for a lot of people to pay for TV cable.. and when Game of Thrones was on, Comcast had a promotion which gave HBO for free.

I believe this Viewership issue is due to technology changes coupled with the inaccessibility of NBA games.
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Post#40 » by The4thHorseman » Tue Feb 18, 2020 7:55 pm

Do live games being recorded at home with the TV off count towards the ratings? There's lots of times I'll record games, avoid the scores and watch em later or the next day.
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