Miami Heat Regular Season Thread Vol. Iggy

[KingDavid]

I'm watching the OKC/Sac game and just thinking, there really was a path THIS SEASON(and for the next 2-3 years) to have CP3, Butler, Robinson, Gallo, and Bam as Heat starters. That's a championship-caliber squad.

Nah. I'm not sure about that. That's a very weak front court defensively. Duncan and Gallo would give up too many points.

[AirP.]

I'm watching the OKC/Sac game and just thinking, there really was a path THIS SEASON(and for the next 2-3 years) to have CP3, Butler, Robinson, Gallo, and Bam as Heat starters. That's a championship-caliber squad.

Nah. I'm not sure about that. That's a very weak frontcourt defensively. Duncan and Gallo would give up too many points.

You can always move Butler to either wing and bring in another wing instead of Robinson. Me, I'd keep Robinson and his shooting on the court for the first 3 quarters, probably go more defensive at the end of games.

[puppa bear]

Well, I had us 6th behind Philly and Indy, at the start of pre-season. Bam has stepped up more than I expected and we got a lot more from Nunn/Herro/Robinson than I imagined we might. So, for me this year is a win. We’ve potentially positioned ourselves to bid for a max FA this year (AD), should it become a thing, and cleared more cap for 2021 (or allowed space to resign DJJ).

If we can host in the 1st round and see the 2nd, then it’s a huge experience win for the rooks and youngsters.

AD is not leaving the Lakers. He got traded to the team and the city he wanted to play for and the Lakers gave up a lot for him.

Or whoever they may be targeting - it might still be Beal, or another player locked up but with ties to Miami/Jimmy.

Edit: 2021 is clearly still the plan, but there appears to be a plan for this off-season as well.

[Kobewade11]

I'm watching the OKC/Sac game and just thinking, there really was a path THIS SEASON(and for the next 2-3 years) to have CP3, Butler, Robinson, Gallo, and Bam as Heat starters. That's a championship-caliber squad.

Reach. When has Gallo ever been championship caliber? Robinson is a stretch too. Nice role guy

[Bishop45]

Yea', considerable reach, can't blame AirP for always wanting to see the whole staircase- but the reality is that we're a few standard deviations from being 'there' sans kidnapping some superstars

[AirP.]

I'm watching the OKC/Sac game and just thinking, there really was a path THIS SEASON(and for the next 2-3 years) to have CP3, Butler, Robinson, Gallo, and Bam as Heat starters. That's a championship-caliber squad.

Reach. When has Gallo ever been championship caliber? Robinson is a stretch too. Nice role guy

It has a lot more to do with Gallo being your 4th best player and the 5th best player if not guarded tightly could drop a bunch of 3s on you. The other 3 were all all-stars this season. Then on the bench you probably have at least Nunn and Herro still, just add some defense and yes, that team is good enough to win a championship, a favorite probably not but absolutely a threat to get to the finals and have a real shot at winning.

Going off the 4th and 5th starter stats right now, both playing 30 minutes a night, you could get 7 3s from your 2 worse starters while they're shooting over 41% from 3.

[Feel_the_Heat15]

Why this Heat team is 2-7 over last 9 games:

#1-Missing clutch shooter in Herro.
#2-Bam playing center after Leonard injury.
#3-Nunn was awful after injury.
#4-Butler missing games.
#5-Scoring droughts in 4th quarter(goes back to #1).
#6-Playing on the road.
#7-Iguodala needing time to acclimate.

Just forget all of the past 7 losses after Herro and Leonard come back.

[AirP.]

[TMIMITW]

I'm watching the OKC/Sac game and just thinking, there really was a path THIS SEASON(and for the next 2-3 years) to have CP3, Nunn/Robinson, Butler, Gallo, and Bam as Heat starters. That's a championship-caliber squad.

It's nuts that OKC, who traded George and Westbrook, this late in the year have a better record than Miami.

People forget that Billy Donavan is a champion coach with college kids, so with young talent he knows how to win.

[GameTime_3]

Why this Heat team is 2-7 over last 9 games:

#1-Missing clutch shooter in Herro.
#2-Bam playing center after Leonard injury.
#3-Nunn was awful after injury.
#4-Butler missing games.
#5-Scoring droughts in 4th quarter(goes back to #1).
#6-Playing on the road.
#7-Iguodala needing time to acclimate.

Just forget all of the past 7 losses after Herro and Leonard come back.

Don't see anywhere where our coach leaves Duncan Robinson vs. Larry Nance or Subbing our DJJ/KO for Jae who is 1/7 or numerous other coaching failures over last 9 games. Spo was hitting all the right buttons to start the year, he added the zone to win some games, he had the rotation going. Credit was due.....These last 9 games, he has been the opposite and should receive the same energy.

[dolphinatik]

I wad thinking about this the other day. Billy donovan and Brad Stevens ate college coaches so they ate use to molding young talent into their system. The also work best with young impressionable talents and not vets set in their ways.

Spo is opposite as here prefers vets that can tech him something but not all vets work well together. Spo can't get vets to submit to his system and can't adjust to make it work. Dion and jj and winny really didn't play much at all this season so for a while it was like spo was Billy d. Now add all these vets and nobody is listening or in sync.

I think that's why Utah celtics OKC and spurs make things work, a lot of young talent and home grown or young guys to buy into their system.

[goodboy]

Why this Heat team is 2-7 over last 9 games:

#1-Missing clutch shooter in Herro.
#2-Bam playing center after Leonard injury.
#3-Nunn was awful after injury.
#4-Butler missing games.
#5-Scoring droughts in 4th quarter(goes back to #1).
#6-Playing on the road.
#7-Iguodala needing time to acclimate.

Just forget all of the past 7 losses after Herro and Leonard come back.

I agree with all of this but you forgot one more point.

Spo's decision making skills. His rotations really dug us in holes in few games that were winnable. I get he has few new players but during crucial possessions, he jeopardized monumental moments.

[goodboy]

Why this Heat team is 2-7 over last 9 games:

#1-Missing clutch shooter in Herro.
#2-Bam playing center after Leonard injury.
#3-Nunn was awful after injury.
#4-Butler missing games.
#5-Scoring droughts in 4th quarter(goes back to #1).
#6-Playing on the road.
#7-Iguodala needing time to acclimate.

Just forget all of the past 7 losses after Herro and Leonard come back.

Don't see anywhere where our coach leaves Duncan Robinson vs. Larry Nance or Subbing our DJJ/KO for Jae who is 1/7 or numerous other coaching failures over last 9 games. Spo was hitting all the right buttons to start the year, he added the zone to win some games, he had the rotation going. Credit was due.....These last 9 games, he has been the opposite and should receive the same energy.

100%

[batterybro42]

We really miss having Tyler Herro, and it just highlights how good and talented of a player he is. The points Herro scores rarely reflect in the box score. What he brings is energy, and he provides a legit scoring threat when the game winds down, and extra space for Butler. Robinson is a good utility piece, but for whatever reason at the end of games he can’t shoot. Herro makes those shots, puts the ball on the floor and ignites the bench and crowd when he does anything.

The last stretch has sucked, but it’s not as bad as it looks. This type of thing happens in an 82 game season. We are blowing leads not getting blown out. This team is finding its way we just added two rotation pieces, lost our starting center, and our complimentary scorer when the game is on the line. Give it some time have some patience we’ll be back to the 1st half of the season Miami Heat by the time the post season comes around.

[BenoUdrihFTL]

We really miss having Tyler Herro, and it just highlights how good and talented of a player he is. The points Herro scores rarely reflect in the box score. What he brings is energy, and he provides a legit scoring threat when the game winds down, and extra space for Butler. Robinson is a good utility piece, but for whatever reason at the end of games he can’t shoot. Herro makes those shots, puts the ball on the floor and ignites the bench and crowd when he does anything.

The last stretch has sucked, but it’s not as bad as it looks. This type of thing happens in an 82 game season. We are blowing leads not getting blown out. This team is finding its way we just added two rotation pieces, lost our starting center, and our complimentary scorer when the game is on the line. Give it some time have some patience we’ll be back to the 1st half of the season Miami Heat by the time the post season comes around.

One underrated aspect of Herro's game we've been missing is his rebounding. Yeah he's only averaging a meh 4.0 but he seemed to have a knack for asserting his focus and crashing the defensive glass in key instances whenever we were struggling there. He's grabbed at least 5 REB in 20 of 46 games played, 8 games of 7 or more. Pretty damn solid for a 19yo backup SG

[al bondiga]

Every team misses players, up and downs, 82 Game season... the key is how do you adjust to that? spo Haas done a bad job so far, but measuring stick will be towards the end of the season and the playoffs... come on spo, stop being such a screw-up... you started reediming yourself a bit, is it that you need talent to perform?

[Wiltside]

Would cut Silva for Jordan Bell tbh

[BenoUdrihFTL]

Tied for 3rd best record vs winning teams



That record vs losing teams tho (worst among all winning teams)... playing up/down to level of competition, home/road disparity, consistently blowing leads... these are symptoms of a more fundamental issue and that issue isn't the roster

[AirP.]

Yesterday in a podcast Ethan Skolnick said that Heat currently consider Bam #1, Herro #2, and Robinson #3 in their long term core with Butler and that Robinson could possibly overtaking Herro at #2. There were 3 podcasts put out, this nugget was in the Gannis one. People still don't get Robinson's impact on this team. His current ORTG is 121 and DRTG is 113 which is a +8 per 100 possessions, in those same numbers Herro is a -12 and Nunn is a -6. To put it in perspective, Butler is a +14 and Bam is a +5, Crowder with the Heat... a +24 so far.

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I do remember talking about Robinson should be looked upon as a core player for the Heat back in December.
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[BFRESH44]

Despite some of our lackluster and frustrating defensive performances, we're still 12th in defensive efficiency, just percentage points outside the top 10, and 7th overall in defensive FG%.

We have sacrificed a slight bit of Miami Heat style defense this year, to become the no.2 three-point shooting team in the league and a top 10 offense. Pretty good.

Makes you think how much better we could've been having a healthy Point Winslow at the point of attack defensively night in, night out. Unfortunately, Winslow wasn't dependable to play basketball as often as we'd like, so Riley had to salvage that situation the best he could with the Iggy/Crowder deal in the short term. And that's yielding some solid returns thus far.

Going to be a interesting and fun run these next couple months.