Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread IV (Must read Post 1)

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Post#761 » by OkcSinceSGA » Sat Mar 21, 2020 11:58 pm

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LordCovington33 wrote:Tidbit:
The coronavirus itself measures between .05 and 0.2 microns in diameter, while the N95 masks filter out particles measuring 0.3 microns in diameter, so they provide an adequate level of protection.


Either you had a type or you don't know how decimals work.

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I meant to say “inadequate”

Edit:
Good for stopping droplets you produce, but not for incoming particles.
Still reduces chances tremendously.

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Post#762 » by Lalouie » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:03 am

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You're welcome any time bro...bout to be pool season here! No way the virus survives 120 :lol:


most of my friends are in scottsdale. i had to cancel because my seminar was cancelled. i know scottsdale like the back of my hand. i've been doing my seminar for 30yrs in old town.

yeah i can visit and we can talk about how big a fail miller has been and how miserable my bruins have been. :D :D :D


Ya...when this all blows over for sure! I wanted to do a meetup a couple of years ago...my wife works at the W in Scottsdale in sales. I can get great rates on rooms for everyone. I actually had interest but maybe we'll set something up in December....


near sprouts and fashion sq mall.....my wife knows the mall like the back of HER hand :lol:

the condo i was going to rent was in that complex 2blks west of the mall on camelback. i envy you and yours, mofo, you must feel at least a little more at ease than everyone else in this country
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Post#763 » by ken6199 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:03 am

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ken6199 wrote:Cepheid's Xpert Xpress SARS-COV2 test approved by FDA. This is the first FDA approved point-of-care testing, and it returns the results in 45 minutes.



First I'm hearing of Covid-2, the one that "causes" Covid-19.

Is that the only Covid that causes it? What percentage of Covid-19 patients would this screen for? Do they all get it from Covid-2? Or some from other numbers, or other things?

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They just announced a few hours ago so there isn't much data out there. These two links have a bit more info.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-fda/fda-approves-first-rapid-coronavirus-test-with-45-minutes-detection-time-idUSKBN218105
https://calgarysun.com/technology/u-s-fda-approves-first-rapid-coronavirus-test-with-45-minutes-detection-time/wcm/c36bbe6d-d117-49c6-95c9-3819aa46769f
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Post#764 » by nymets1 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:15 am

ClipsFanSince98 wrote:NY reporting zero recovered. So basically everyone is still sick. Not a good ratio. Wonder how many recent flu deaths nationwide were actually COVID?

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You might want to look at www.bing.com/covid like everyday. My state Florida is still at 0 recovered and it's HOT down here.
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Post#765 » by flavio_93 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:15 am

Badonkadonk wrote:Pretty interesting and seemingly effective tech being used in China

Read on Twitter
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Honestly the more I read about China and especially South Korea, the more primitive the North American response seems.

You don’t know the whole story about China lol this is the same country that a few months ago people were bashing for mass genocide and stealing organs from Muslim Chinese


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Post#766 » by flavio_93 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:16 am

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ClipsFanSince98 wrote:NY reporting zero recovered. So basically everyone is still sick. Not a good ratio. Wonder how many recent flu deaths nationwide were actually COVID?

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You might want to look at www.bing.com/covid like everyday. My state Florida is still at 0 recovered and it's HOT down here.

Makes sense that there is 0 recovered. Takes some time to recover. You can be completely fine but still with the virus and not be considered recovered


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Post#769 » by Zenzibar » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:21 am

Cuba here to help, says ambassador
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FORS FERNANDEZ... it's very important that there is solidarity between Cuba and Jamaica

Cuban Ambassador to Jamaica Ines Fors Fernández says in the wake of the novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) outbreak, both the Cuban and Jamaican governments must maintain a strong relationship.

The ambassador's comment follows news that Kingston has asked Havana to provide 100 nurses to help man local intensive care units (ICUs) which are critical in treating Jamaica's most severe cases of COVID-19.

Up to yesterday, Jamaica had confirmed 15 cases of the virus.

“Cuba is here to help. The world is experiencing one of the worst moments possible in recent years, so it's very important that there is solidarity between Cuba and Jamaica. It's very important to maintain cooperation and it's very important that we continue to help each other,” the ambassador told the Jamaica Observer in an interview on Wednesday.

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On Tuesday, Opposition Leader Dr Peter Phillips announced that he had reached out to the Cuban Government for Jamaica to access the drug, which is said to be among 30 such drugs being used in the fight against COVID-19 in other jurisdictions.

“Interferon was among the medication used by China to treat the coronavirus and it has [had] good results. It is at our discretion to dispense this drug to countries that wish to have it,” Fors Fernández said, adding that this should be done through a formal channel.

“It depends on the country and what medication and drugs it decides on using. We, of course, have to respect this decision until they make request,” she added.

“Cuba is here to help, not just Jamaica but also other countries — other Caribbean countries, countries in Latin America and across the world. It's part of our humanitarianism and our push for solidarity,” the ambassador stated.

On Tuesday, Health and Wellness Minister Dr Christopher Tufton said Jamaica is planning to have discussions with Cuba to get more information about the drug.

“To the extent that there is a new pharmaceutical response to COVID-19, we will be very interested to learn more about that, and so the conversation will continue in that regard,” Tufton said at Jamaica House where he updated the nation on COVID-19 developments.

However, Tufton said Jamaica's medical team will first have to get the drug vetted by the standards agency before it is registered for use and made available to the public.

In the meantime, she said the Cuban Government has been following the World Health Organization's guidelines as it relates to tackling COVID-19 in the country and will continue to do so even as it assists other countries.
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Post#770 » by bigfnjoe96 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:27 am

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Post#771 » by Zenzibar » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:29 am

Instead of shamefully price gauging, how about some of the wealthiest U.S. Corporations take note and step up.


Sagicor donates US$1m to fight coronavirus
Saturday, March 21, 2020

A view of the Sagicor Jamaica headquarters in New Kingston

SAGICOR Financial Company Limited says it has committed US$1 million to aid in the fight against the novel coronavirus (COVID-19) in the Caribbean.

The insurance provider said it will use the funds to support containment and response efforts, and that it has already started dialogue with governments and health ministries in Barbados, Trinidad & Tobago, Jamaica, and the director general of the Organisation of Eastern Caribbean States.

In a release yesterday, Sagicor said the focus will be on enhancing early detection and providing equipment for the immediate care of those already infected.

In Barbados, the company said it is in discussions with the authorities regarding a plan to purchase “walk-through” scanners to be placed at the island's ports of entry, as well as specific high-traffic facilities.

Plans are already at an advanced stage for the distribution of handheld scanners and other medical supplies across the Eastern Caribbean, while in Trinidad & Tobago, the team is working with the Government to provide support, including the supply of critical medical equipment, the company continued.

Also, the release said Sagicor Jamaica is currently coordinating efforts with other private sector organisations to finance the purchase of medical equipment, as well as online educational tools for primary school students who are out of school during this time.
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Post#772 » by spacemonkey » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:30 am

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That increase in both Singapore and HK, but especially the latter, is being triggered by people returning home from the West. In HK's case, it is the highest spike they've had in 2 months after having successfully limited the spread of this.

This thing will absolutely last in phases because of how global the world is. Vigilance is required and will be for a lot longer than just a few weeks or whatever some are estimating.
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Post#773 » by Richfield » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:39 am

nymets1 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:NY reporting zero recovered. So basically everyone is still sick. Not a good ratio. Wonder how many recent flu deaths nationwide were actually COVID?

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You might want to look at www.bing.com/covid like everyday. My state Florida is still at 0 recovered and it's HOT down here.


A note to those following the "recovered" stats.

When somebody dies, we know it. We can count their numbers.

When somebody is fully recovered, we don't know it until they are re-tested.

I have to speak carefully here, because I'm not saying that anybody has recovered. But I want to say weI don't know how many of those that have tested positive have been continuously re-tested.

IF somebody has recovered, and that's a big IF, it's possible that tests are so scarce that they haven't used up a second or third one that would come back negative for Covid, thus giving them a chance to say they've "recovered". When tests become more abundant, we may learn that many have recovered, we may not. But as for now, that number is very much a question mark for me because I don't know if those who tested positive are being retested every day to see if they're "recovered".

I'm not a doctor. But if my logic here is off I hope somebody will set me straight.
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Post#774 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:42 am

1,603 hospitalized in New York.

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Post#775 » by Richfield » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:53 am

Ainosterhaspie wrote:How is Washington state managing to achieve controlled growth without shutting everything down? They've had an average of about 200 new cases per day the last four days so its growing, but not exponentially. I wonder if there's something we can apply from there to other places to keep things running. Just curious because it looks like they aren't shutting down as aggressively as other places, but don't have out of control growth either.


They can have 200 new cases per day with limited tests if their test availability is limited in a linear or decreasing pattern.

Doesn't mean there isn't exponential growth of cases, undetected.

The limits on tests can make case numbers look much more tame than they really are.

I hope that's not the case there, of course. Just want to point out test availability is a huge problem for getting accurate numbers from any region. Numbers like tests done per day and the methods how people can get tested become factors that effect the totals.

Some numbers are better than no numbers. But drawing conclusions from the numbers has to be done carefully.
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Post#776 » by nymets1 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 12:58 am

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nymets1 wrote:
ClipsFanSince98 wrote:NY reporting zero recovered. So basically everyone is still sick. Not a good ratio. Wonder how many recent flu deaths nationwide were actually COVID?

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You might want to look at www.bing.com/covid like everyday. My state Florida is still at 0 recovered and it's HOT down here.


A note to those following the "recovered" stats.

When somebody dies, we know it. We can count their numbers.

When somebody is fully recovered, we don't know it until they are re-tested.

I have to speak carefully here, because I'm not saying that anybody has recovered. But I want to say weI don't know how many of those that have tested positive have been continuously re-tested.

IF somebody has recovered, and that's a big IF, it's possible that tests are so scarce that they haven't used up a second or third one that would come back negative for Covid, thus giving them a chance to say they've "recovered". When tests become more abundant, we may learn that many have recovered, we may not. But as for now, that number is very much a question mark for me because I don't know if those who tested positive are being retested every day to see if they're "recovered".

I'm not a doctor. But if my logic here is off I hope somebody will set me straight.



When I look at the word "recovered", i'm thinking they were re-tested and they were negative or they been cleared by a medical person.
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Post#777 » by Badonkadonk » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:00 am

flavio_93 wrote:
Badonkadonk wrote:Pretty interesting and seemingly effective tech being used in China

Read on Twitter
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Honestly the more I read about China and especially South Korea, the more primitive the North American response seems.

You don’t know the whole story about China lol this is the same country that a few months ago people were bashing for mass genocide and stealing organs from Muslim Chinese

No, it's pretty impossible to miss the tyranny of that government. It is somewhere between oppressive and evil.

I was only showing another example of how they're specifically better at dealing with a pandemic, I never said it was a great place full of freedoms.
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Post#778 » by spacemonkey » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:02 am

Once the panic sets in, it's like people forget how to function.

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Post#779 » by LKN » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:06 am

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Post#780 » by Richfield » Sun Mar 22, 2020 1:06 am

nymets1 wrote:
Richfield wrote:
nymets1 wrote:
You might want to look at www.bing.com/covid like everyday. My state Florida is still at 0 recovered and it's HOT down here.


A note to those following the "recovered" stats.

When somebody dies, we know it. We can count their numbers.

When somebody is fully recovered, we don't know it until they are re-tested.

I have to speak carefully here, because I'm not saying that anybody has recovered. But I want to say weI don't know how many of those that have tested positive have been continuously re-tested.

IF somebody has recovered, and that's a big IF, it's possible that tests are so scarce that they haven't used up a second or third one that would come back negative for Covid, thus giving them a chance to say they've "recovered". When tests become more abundant, we may learn that many have recovered, we may not. But as for now, that number is very much a question mark for me because I don't know if those who tested positive are being retested every day to see if they're "recovered".

I'm not a doctor. But if my logic here is off I hope somebody will set me straight.



When I look at the word "recovered", i'm thinking they were re-tested and they were negative or they been cleared by a medical person.


Right. So how often are those who have tested positive being re-tested? Every day? Once a week? Ever?

Or are tests prioritized for original diagnoses?

They say they're limited. Not sure how limited.

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