Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread IV (Must read Post 1)

[Optimus_Steel]

Oh man - upside: maybe they'll start taking this more seriously

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Some people until it happens to them....

[thelead]

For those taking it seriously, are you ordering take-out? I get why governments are allowing it (economy) but wouldn’t one infected chef or delivery person infect a ton of people?

What would be the alternative?

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Eating at home. Meats are cooked at high temperatures (reducing transfer from a butcher) and produce can be washed before consumption at home. Just thinking out loud.

[thelead]

Oh man - upside: maybe they'll start taking this more seriously

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Some people until it happens to them....

Self-edit: too political for this thread

[mcmurphy]

Authorities need to hammer in the idea that "staying inside" will only produce 'results' 2, 3 weeks after it.

Even after the inevitable mandatory quarantines, the numbers will keep going up.

Italy has been shut down for a many days now and they're still not seeing the results. Next week is "crucial for them" (their words) in seeing the results of their lockdown.

In the US there are still mass gatherings. These will impact the numbers 10-14 days from now...

actually it seems that today for the first time there is a substantial decrease in new infected people (-15%) since the national lockdown...

[NinjaBro]

Authorities need to hammer in the idea that "staying inside" will only produce 'results' 2, 3 weeks after it.

Even after the inevitable mandatory quarantines, the numbers will keep going up.

Italy has been shut down for a many days now and they're still not seeing the results. Next week is "crucial for them" (their words) in seeing the results of their lockdown.

In the US there are still mass gatherings. These will impact the numbers 10-14 days from now...

actually it seems that today for the first time there is a substantial decrease in new infected people (-15%) since the national lockdown...

This is great news.

[Doug_12]

Authorities need to hammer in the idea that "staying inside" will only produce 'results' 2, 3 weeks after it.

Even after the inevitable mandatory quarantines, the numbers will keep going up.

Italy has been shut down for a many days now and they're still not seeing the results. Next week is "crucial for them" (their words) in seeing the results of their lockdown.

In the US there are still mass gatherings. These will impact the numbers 10-14 days from now...

actually it seems that today for the first time there is a substantial decrease in new infected people (-15%) since the national lockdown...

Hopefully, but we'll see. I think the new daily cases will dance around that 5500-7000 figure for like 5-7 days, then it'll start decreasing gradually.

[basketballRob]

I really wish tests were available for everyone. For the past 9 days I've had slight general fatigue, a few aches, scratchy throat, and a gentle cough that shows up a couple times per day. I have a pulse oximeter and a thermometer. My temperature went up to 99.0 F one day but has not gone above 98.6 since then. My oxygen levels are between 97 and 99 percent saturation so who knows honestly. I get a cold on average once every year or two and they are usually very mild and last a couple days. I wouldn't be surprised if I am a person that has mild symptoms so honestly I wouldn't be shocked to get a positive test.

You can order one from Everlywell for 135, but they aren't recognized by the FDA. Everlywell says they aren't going to make a penny from testing.


https://www.everlywell.com/blog/news-and-info/our-commitment-to-fighting-covid-19/

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[ItsDanger]

Its the daily growth rate of confirmed cases you need to track to see the progression.

[Stillwater]

What most are missing in the % fails to factor there's a vaccine available to people for the flu and there won't be one for a year on average projections for COVID-19.

The vaccine for the flu vaccinates you for the flu from the previous year(s). The flu itself often mutates season by season so the available vaccination for last years flu isn't effective.

There is no immunity for COVID-19 in place key word being NO...
We simply cannot look at data from any other non pandemic virus and compare it to one that has no vaccine with a straight face.
Soon every city in the Country sans some mountain where 3 people per 10000 acres live is going to be on some sort of stay at home order because of this...if that doesn't wake doubters up to how helpless we all are to fight this right now, I don't know what will.
Stay at home and pray you make it , or keep doing what you do until somebody makes you stop.

[Stillwater]

Ohio just issued their version of a stay at home order as the number of infected climbs rapidly...
the website for it crashed already... but here is a story about it:https://www.cleveland19.com/2020/03/22/live-ohio-gov-mike-dewine-addresses-public-covid-spreads-through-state/

[SactoKingsFan]

For those taking it seriously, are you ordering take-out? I get why governments are allowing it (economy) but wouldn’t one infected chef or delivery person infect a ton of people?

I'm avoiding take out. Been eating at home for a while. Not allowing my boomer parents to come over for weekly dinner. Only going out for running, walking the dog and picking up essential items. Pretty easy since I like to cook and already had extra food in the pantry and other stuff in garage freezer/ fridge.

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[mcmurphy]

Authorities need to hammer in the idea that "staying inside" will only produce 'results' 2, 3 weeks after it.

Even after the inevitable mandatory quarantines, the numbers will keep going up.

Italy has been shut down for a many days now and they're still not seeing the results. Next week is "crucial for them" (their words) in seeing the results of their lockdown.

In the US there are still mass gatherings. These will impact the numbers 10-14 days from now...

actually it seems that today for the first time there is a substantial decrease in new infected people (-15%) since the national lockdown...

Hopefully, but we'll see. I think the new daily cases will dance around that 5500-7000 figure for like 5-7 days, then it'll start decreasing gradually.

in Italy we don't have too many illusions but practically there had never been such a decisive decrease since the beginning of the epidemic (on 10 and 16 March the data of some regions were missing)... so we knock on wood

[basketballRob]

For those taking it seriously, are you ordering take-out? I get why governments are allowing it (economy) but wouldn’t one infected chef or delivery person infect a ton of people?

I'm avoiding take out. Been eating at home for a while. Not allowing my boomer parents to come over for weekly dinner. Only going out for running, walking the dog and picking up essential items. Pretty easy since I like to cook and already had extra food in the pantry and other stuff in garage freezer/ fridge.

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You still have to go to the grocery store and can be exposed there.

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[mcmurphy]

Its the daily growth rate of confirmed cases you need to track to see the progression.

do you talk to me?

[Dirk]

For those taking it seriously, are you ordering take-out? I get why governments are allowing it (economy) but wouldn’t one infected chef or delivery person infect a ton of people?

What would be the alternative?

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Eating at home. Meats are cooked at high temperatures (reducing transfer from a butcher) and produce can be washed before consumption at home. Just thinking out loud.

I think it's perfectly safe. You would need a scenario where the cook was literally coughing over the food or something like that.

Currently, there is no evidence to support transmission of COVID-19 by food. Unlike foodborne gastrointestinal (GI) viruses, like norovirus and hepatitis A, that often make people ill through contaminated food, SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, is a virus that causes respiratory illness. Foodborne exposure to this virus is not known to be a route of transmission. All food preparation and manufacturing establishments are required to follow FDA and USDA food safety rules, including the maintenance of clean and sanitized facilities and food contact surfaces.

Check this comprehensive site from cornell https://instituteforfoodsafety.cornell.edu/coronavirus-covid-19/food-safety-recommendation-consumer/

[SactoKingsFan]

For those taking it seriously, are you ordering take-out? I get why governments are allowing it (economy) but wouldn’t one infected chef or delivery person infect a ton of people?

I'm avoiding take out. Been eating at home for a while. Not allowing my boomer parents to come over for weekly dinner. Only going out for running, walking the dog and picking up essential items. Pretty easy since I like to cook and already had extra food in the pantry and other stuff in garage freezer/ fridge.

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You still have to go to the grocery store and can be exposed there.

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I have a good 2+ weeks of food left. When I need more I'll get it from Amazon. No interaction with cashier or other shoppers and everything can be disinfected.

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[Pharmcat]

What would be the alternative?

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Eating at home. Meats are cooked at high temperatures (reducing transfer from a butcher) and produce can be washed before consumption at home. Just thinking out loud.

I think it's perfectly safe. You would need a scenario where the cook was literally coughing over the food or something like that.

Currently, there is no evidence to support transmission of COVID-19 by food. Unlike foodborne gastrointestinal (GI) viruses, like norovirus and hepatitis A, that often make people ill through contaminated food, SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, is a virus that causes respiratory illness. Foodborne exposure to this virus is not known to be a route of transmission. All food preparation and manufacturing establishments are required to follow FDA and USDA food safety rules, including the maintenance of clean and sanitized facilities and food contact surfaces.

Check this comprehensive site from cornell https://instituteforfoodsafety.cornell.edu/coronavirus-covid-19/food-safety-recommendation-consumer/

I bring take out home : wash hands , get a plate , dump food into plate, throw bag out . Wash hands again
Use home utensils . And then eat

[basketballRob]

What would be the alternative?

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Eating at home. Meats are cooked at high temperatures (reducing transfer from a butcher) and produce can be washed before consumption at home. Just thinking out loud.

I think it's perfectly safe. You would need a scenario where the cook was literally coughing over the food or something like that.

Currently, there is no evidence to support transmission of COVID-19 by food. Unlike foodborne gastrointestinal (GI) viruses, like norovirus and hepatitis A, that often make people ill through contaminated food, SARS-CoV-2, which causes COVID-19, is a virus that causes respiratory illness. Foodborne exposure to this virus is not known to be a route of transmission. All food preparation and manufacturing establishments are required to follow FDA and USDA food safety rules, including the maintenance of clean and sanitized facilities and food contact surfaces.

Check this comprehensive site from cornell https://instituteforfoodsafety.cornell.edu/coronavirus-covid-19/food-safety-recommendation-consumer/

I personally would feel less exposed getting takeout, than going in a packed grocery store.

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[Movics]

Would anyone be able the link the newest curve of infection rate compared to Italy, Spain, and Germany?

[Doug_12]

For those taking it seriously, are you ordering take-out? I get why governments are allowing it (economy) but wouldn’t one infected chef or delivery person infect a ton of people?

What would be the alternative?

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We for example bought a couple of stuff which is enough for like 4 weeks (I think this is what others consider "hoarding") because we thought that online delivery from supermarkets will not be an option for like a month and also shoppers and the shops won't be able to implement the appropriate safety measures until that time. That's exactly what happened: I checked yesterday and I cannot order anything earlier than mid april and in stores people are standing in queues like 0.5m distance from each other without any protection...

So we are cooking at home: Sometimes potato, sometimes rice, sometimes spaghetti. As currently basically no one is wearing a mask, neither on the streets nor in the shops and only like 30-40% of people keep the 2m distance I don't consider supermarkets a safe option. (At least not until the cashiers get masks or a plexi, or people are obliged to either wear a mask or wait outside until like no one is in). Also as we test much less than other neighbouring countries I cannot know what is the approx. probability of getting infected - so I choose to minimize risk as much as possible.