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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#21 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sun Mar 22, 2020 8:53 pm

1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#22 » by Mylie10 » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:05 pm

thinkingwarriors wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan


I love Patrick Willams' body, but Im not sure about him being good enough to warrant such a high pick.

He looks like he could guard the LeBron's and Kawhis of the world, but not sure he's going to be good enough.

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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#23 » by ChuckDurn » Sun Mar 22, 2020 9:34 pm

thinkingwarriors wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan

In 5 years, we may look back and see that this is the right answer.

I don't have Williams or Bey quite this high, but think they (along with Vassell and possibly Nesmith) may end up being some of the prizes of this draft.
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#24 » by GQ Hot Dog » Sun Mar 22, 2020 10:14 pm

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thinkingwarriors wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan

In 5 years, we may look back and see that this is the right answer.

I don't have Williams or Bey quite this high, but think they (along with Vassell and possibly Nesmith) may end up being some of the prizes of this draft.


If we picked 5th and missed out on Wiseman because of it, I would be happy with Williams at #5. The others I could only see us picking if we traded down.
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#25 » by Onus » Tue Mar 24, 2020 12:53 am

1. Wiseman
2. Avidja
3. Paul Reed
4. Tyrese Haliburton
5. Isaac Okoro
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#26 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:53 pm

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clyde21 wrote:1. R.J. Hampton
2. Scottie Lewis
3. Obi Toppin
4. Anthony Edwards (as trade value)
5. James Wiseman (as trade value)


You have RJ Hampton #1?
What I like is he looks like a smart player and is really fast. What I don't like is he's a poor FT shooter and a poor shooter overall. He is super young so he could always improve, but I'm surprised to see you have him #1.


yea, RJ is my #1 overall, i think if we can get RJ in the top 5 given who else is there that would be a nice coup, even though I'd still prefer to trade back and grab any combo of Hali/Scottie/Okoro/Green
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#27 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:53 pm

Onus wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Avidja
3. Paul Reed
4. Tyrese Haliburton
5. Isaac Okoro


you are on the right track with the bottom 3
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#28 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 4:54 pm

thinkingwarriors wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan


i like it, but you have the wrong Bey
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#29 » by GQ Hot Dog » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:14 pm

clyde21 wrote:
thinkingwarriors wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan


i like it, but you have the wrong Bey


Tyler Bey is a really dynamic run/jump athlete but I don't know how much of his offensive game will translate to the next level. He's not a shooter and likes to score out of the low post but his athleticism won't help him as much down there in the NBA.

Saddiq Bey can score everywhere on the court and is just as big and strong as Tyler while being not as explosive. Saddiq also went to Villanova and we know Jay Wright teaches his guys up to the NBA so chances are Saddiq would be able to contribute in year one which is great for us.
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#30 » by clyde21 » Tue Mar 24, 2020 5:19 pm

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clyde21 wrote:
thinkingwarriors wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan


i like it, but you have the wrong Bey


Tyler Bey is a really dynamic run/jump athlete but I don't know how much of his offensive game will translate to the next level. He's not a shooter and likes to score out of the low post but his athleticism won't help him as much down there in the NBA.

Saddiq Bey can score everywhere on the court and is just as big and strong as Tyler while being not as explosive. Saddiq also went to Villanova and we know Jay Wright teaches his guys up to the NBA so chances are Saddiq would be able to contribute in year one which is great for us.


Tyler is way more athletic, longer, much better rebounder and defender, has a much easier path to success than Saddiq, day 1 Tyler can rebound and guard multiple positions for u, Saddiq is kinda useless right now if he's not hitting his 3s, and he's a pretty simple shooter right now in that he's not gonna create a lot of looks on his own
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#31 » by ahmetmekin » Tue Mar 24, 2020 6:32 pm

For me it is
Edwards-Okoro then
Avdija-Wiseman-Haliburton
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#32 » by Mylie10 » Wed Mar 25, 2020 3:15 am

thinkingwarriors wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
thinkingwarriors wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan


i like it, but you have the wrong Bey


Tyler Bey is a really dynamic run/jump athlete but I don't know how much of his offensive game will translate to the next level. He's not a shooter and likes to score out of the low post but his athleticism won't help him as much down there in the NBA.

Saddiq Bey can score everywhere on the court and is just as big and strong as Tyler while being not as explosive. Saddiq also went to Villanova and we know Jay Wright teaches his guys up to the NBA so chances are Saddiq would be able to contribute in year one which is great for us.


Not sure if Saddic will declare. If he does he'll rise up the board for sure.
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#33 » by cdubbz » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:37 am

1. James Wiseman
2. Anthony Edwards
3. Onyeka
4. Obi Toppin
5. Lamelo
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Post#34 » by whatisacenter » Thu Mar 26, 2020 6:31 am

1. James Wiseman
2. Tyler Haliburton
3. R.J. Hampton
4. Deni Avdija
5. Killian Hayes
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Post#35 » by Kuya » Thu Mar 26, 2020 8:11 am

1. Anthony Edwards
2. James Wiseman
3. LaMelo Ball
4. Deni Avdija
5. Isaac Okoro
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Post#36 » by likashing » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:46 pm

For the older folks... will Wiseman be another Olowokandi?
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#37 » by cdubbz » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:54 pm

likashing wrote:For the older folks... will Wiseman be another Olowokandi?


In what ways? Lol there is nothing similar about the two at all. Olowokandi started hooping later in his teens and finally had a good season his junior year at pacific.

If you just mean a bust? No.
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#38 » by whatisacenter » Thu Mar 26, 2020 5:03 pm

cdubbz wrote:
likashing wrote:For the older folks... will Wiseman be another Olowokandi?


In what ways? Lol there is nothing similar about the two at all. Olowokandi started hooping later in his teens and finally had a good season his junior year at pacific.

If you just mean a bust? No.


yeah, I agree with cdubbz, different body types and Wiseman mostly plays facing the basket.
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#39 » by KevinMcreynolds » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:13 pm

1. Wiseman - too much potential
2. Edwards - chalking up his bad play to not giving af about college ball
3. Hayes - I feel like this kid is going to fill it up, just hope he's not another DLo
4. Okoro - this dude has a crazy motor, if he can develop a better shot he'll be unstoppable
5. Haliburton - reminds me of Shai and seems like the smartest player of the bunch, but that shooting form worries me

honorable mention: Avdija - love the all around game, but I'm scared of the euro bust factor
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Re: GS 1-5 draft no trading the pick 

Post#40 » by GQ Hot Dog » Thu Mar 26, 2020 9:54 pm

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thinkingwarriors wrote:1. Wiseman
2. Patrick Williams FSU 6'7 215 6'11 wingspan
3. Isaac Okoro Aub 6'6 225 6'9 wingspan
4. Saddiq Bey Vil 6'8 216 6'11 wingspan
5. Onyeka Okongwu 6'9 220 7'1 wingspan


I love Patrick Willams' body, but Im not sure about him being good enough to warrant such a high pick.

He looks like he could guard the LeBron's and Kawhis of the world, but not sure he's going to be good enough.

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I've been watching as much tape on Williams as I can find with all the free time and in this case the Kawhi Leonard comparisons are eerily spot on. He just moves like Kawhi. He's incredibly strong and kind of glides around the court, never rushing, going wherever he wants, whenever he wants.

His biggest strength and most reliable asset is his mid range game. Two to three dribbles to a spot around the free throw line, rises, a flick of the wrist and drains it. And he shoots threes the same way, just a flick of the wrist with a nice arc. There's no wasted movement with this guy, no flashiness, just efficiency across the board.

I'm staring to come around to thinking he's the top talent in the draft. He was hidden on FlaSt because he came off the bench only getting 23 mpg.
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