spikeslovechild wrote:Neutral 123 wrote:spikeslovechild wrote:
If you can't see the difference between factory farming which has some questionable practices from a moral and ethical perspective but is still regularly inspected by the FDA and has controls put in place to trace any comprised product back to the source and this outbreak I don't know how to have a reasonable discussion with you.
You keep focusing on product. This is not about the meat. It's not about the final product. It is largely about live animals. Viruses mutate among live animals,
creating new and deadly disease that are more likely to pass to humans through interaction with life animals or the processing. So yes, it is very unlikely that you will get some new disease from eating a properly cooked piece of meat. You will get it from a farm where a new disease was created and spread to workers and carries across countries and the world. In fact, it has NOT been proven or even widely accepted that this was from a bat, eating bat or whatever. It just seems clear it originated in China. I get it. It gets hard now when this involves changes on our part instead of just getting angry at someone else.
Once again there are standards for how meat is butchered in the united states. There are standards of how it is prepared in most other developed nations as well. Hell even China I assume has some basic standards as well at least for the products they wish to export which would be enforced by the CFDA.
Here are the FDA guidelines:
https://www.fda.gov/media/110822/downloadThere are none at the wet market it's the wild-wild west and more to the point they are selling animals that are not commonly consumed so there is no tracking of what is happening out in the wild as it relates to diseases in the animal food chain. The other poster mentioned there are many potential pandemics that we aren't even aware of that is because for the most part the system works and the diseased animals are removed from the supply chain before it gets to this point . It's a large part of the reason why we still don't know to this day WHAT animal caused the pandemic I mean we now the bat was the likely source but we still don't know the intermediary think of how frighting that is? China needs to change it's medieval practices or be isolated from the world community. It really is that simple.
The standards allow for horrible living conditions and terrible treatment. Have you ever seen video from inside industrial chicken farms? Pig farms? They're living in awful, cramped, filthy conditions where diseases spread and mutate and then by interacting with workers or transporters, that's what causes animal-to-human transmission.
They need space to live and have a life. They need to be treated better than mere commodities, because they aren't. They're living creatures that feel pain and sadness, and they are killed in the millions for our nourishment. It's time to give them the respect they deserve and give them better lives - otherwise another pandemic will happen again, and next time it could be an American one.
I hope by the time we have gotten through this crisis that you will see some merit to my position and be a part of pushing for BETTER STANDARDS for yourself and your family and everyone else's. In the end the benefits would greatly outweigh the costs. From better quality meat with more nutrition, to eating less animal fats and red meat which will help reduce a myriad a diseases that are prevalent across the western world, to significantly aiding the fight against climate change as animal agriculture is the #1 cause of greenhouse gases, we have much to gain from lowering consumption and improving quality and standards significantly.
