2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3)

god shammgod · Post #741 » by **god shammgod** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:46 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I rather miss on one guy with Randle than miss on everything with the draft

hey look, i got him to admit randle sucks

nope

3toheadmelo · Post #742 » by **3toheadmelo** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 4:48 pm

god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
hey look, i got him to admit randle sucks

nope

Post #743 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:07 pm

we should pull together our money and send a representative from realgm to let our voice be heard! :lol:

Read on Twitter

RHODEY · Post #744 » by **RHODEY** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:12 pm

god shammgod wrote:

Read on Twitter

i don't know if i expected lamelo to be that much in the lead

And no Hayes..is that a sign that our front Office and fanbase are going to act like he doesn't even exist?

Post #745 » by **Manhattan Project** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:27 pm

Not that I watch or care about the Liberty, but it is funny how their about to have a draft that every Knick fan would kill for.
- First overall pick with a star available.
- Four first round picks in the top 15.

HarthorneWingo · Post #746 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:35 pm

mpharris36 wrote:we should pull together our money and send a representative from realgm to let our voice be heard!

Read on Twitter

Let me know when you got the money together. I'm the only one here with a prior relationship with Leon. :lol:

HarthorneWingo · Post #747 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:35 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Not that I watch or care about the Liberty, but it is funny how their about to have a draft that every Knick fan would kill for.
- First overall pick with a star available.
- Four first round picks in the top 15.

Of course.

knickstape21 · Post #748 » by **knickstape21** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:39 pm

In on Hayes. He has a chance to be special.

Told y’all about Tyrell Terry also

Context · Post #749 » by **Context** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:53 pm

Manhattan Project wrote:Not that I watch or care about the Liberty, but it is funny how their about to have a draft that every Knick fan would kill for.
- First overall pick with a star available.
- Four first round picks in the top 15.

Dam! That's exciting MP...

RHODEY · Post #750 » by **RHODEY** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:07 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
HEZI wrote:Hayes would be a really nice pickup for us. I really like him. There are shades of Goran Dragic in his game and that's probably his floor. He has more potential than that.

I do like the Dragic comp. He also has about a couple inches and 20-25 lbs on dragic as well. Has a bit of Manu in terms of not being the best athlete but his ability to get into the paint consistently and his ability to finish.

He's a bit too lefty dominant but isn't everyone at the of 18.

He also projects probably the best next to RJ long term as well being the higher upside. Haliburton might fit the best but I do think he has a bit of a limited upside.

I think the thing that separates Hayes from the other PG prospects is his ability to shoot of the dribble and he already has an NBA step back jumper.

Manu's athleticism was ...interesting. He was "tricky" athletic. He could unleash a ferocious dunk in traffic when it was least expected. He had (situational) ups, lateral quickness, flexibility, and the strength to absorb contact and still finish above the rim. If Hayes is that level we could do a hell of a lot worse.

Post #751 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:12 pm

RHODEY wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
HEZI wrote:Hayes would be a really nice pickup for us. I really like him. There are shades of Goran Dragic in his game and that's probably his floor. He has more potential than that.

I do like the Dragic comp. He also has about a couple inches and 20-25 lbs on dragic as well. Has a bit of Manu in terms of not being the best athlete but his ability to get into the paint consistently and his ability to finish.

He's a bit too lefty dominant but isn't everyone at the of 18.

He also projects probably the best next to RJ long term as well being the higher upside. Haliburton might fit the best but I do think he has a bit of a limited upside.

I think the thing that separates Hayes from the other PG prospects is his ability to shoot of the dribble and he already has an NBA step back jumper.

Manu's athleticism was ...interesting. He was "tricky" athletic. He could unleash a ferocious dunk in traffic when it was least expected. He had (situational) ups, lateral quickness, flexibility, and the strength to absorb contact and still finish above the rim. If Hayes is that level we could do a hell of a lot worse.

Read on Twitter

nice floater, steal, then flush. He's made huge improvements in explosiveness this year. He couldn't do that the year before.

Post #752 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:28 pm

The Ringer had Culver #2 on their board last year over Ja. They sometimes do some crazy things that end up looking bad.

Post #753 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:33 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:The Ringer had Culver #2 on their board last year over Ja. They sometimes do some crazy things that end up looking bad.

i mean they had Morant #3...its not like they had him #10

and that was back in February I can't seem to find a more updated 2019 power ranking from them

Post #754 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:43 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:The Ringer had Culver #2 on their board last year over Ja. They sometimes do some crazy things that end up looking bad.

i mean they had Morant #3...its not like they had him #10

But still....that is a big miss.

Although I don't think Hayes at #1 is a stretch in this draft, since I had him #2.

Post #755 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 6:52 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:The Ringer had Culver #2 on their board last year over Ja. They sometimes do some crazy things that end up looking bad.

i mean they had Morant #3...its not like they had him #10

But still....that is a big miss.

Although I don't think Hayes at #1 is a stretch in this draft, since I had him #2.

at the time culver was playing out of his ass. I would like to see how there ranking had them prior to the draft because for the draft analysis they gave Memphis an A for Morant for the #2 pick and they gave Minnesota a B for the Culver @ #6 pick.

I think the touney gave teams that reassurance that Morant wasn't just a product of playing in a horrible conference in high school gyms. He had two huge games against Marquette and Florida State...which I think solidified him right after Zion.

Post #756 » by **Deeeez Knicks** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:09 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
i mean they had Morant #3...its not like they had him #10

But still....that is a big miss.

Although I don't think Hayes at #1 is a stretch in this draft, since I had him #2.

at the time culver was playing out of his ass. I would like to see how there ranking had them prior to the draft because for the draft analysis they gave Memphis an A for Morant for the #2 pick and they gave Minnesota a B for the Culver @ #6 pick.

I think the touney gave teams that reassurance that Morant wasn't just a product of playing in a horrible conference in high school gyms. He had two huge games against Marquette and Florida State...which I think solidified him right after Zion.

I mean it's a good read...I agree with some, and not others. Just saying, some of their rankings can be off and dont always pan out..like everyone else in the draft though...they seem to be more out there sometimes with some of their rankings (Terry #8?). They also left some guys out too like Tre Jones. Not sure if they are just not high on them or maybe mistakenly left out?

Still a good read and all though.

Post #757 » by **mpharris36** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 7:23 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Deeeez Knicks wrote:
But still....that is a big miss.

Although I don't think Hayes at #1 is a stretch in this draft, since I had him #2.

at the time culver was playing out of his ass. I would like to see how there ranking had them prior to the draft because for the draft analysis they gave Memphis an A for Morant for the #2 pick and they gave Minnesota a B for the Culver @ #6 pick.

I think the touney gave teams that reassurance that Morant wasn't just a product of playing in a horrible conference in high school gyms. He had two huge games against Marquette and Florida State...which I think solidified him right after Zion.

I mean it's a good read...I agree with some, and not others. Just saying, some of their rankings can be off and dont always pan out..like everyone else in the draft though...they seem to be more out there sometimes with some of their rankings (Terry #8?). They also left some guys out too like Tre Jones. Not sure if they are just not high on them or maybe mistakenly left out?

Still a good read and all though.

yeah by no means do I agree with all there rankings :lol:

I do like that they aren't afraid to be different.

HarthorneWingo · Post #758 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:18 pm

god shammgod wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:I’ve yet to see Coleslaw carry his team against a top ranked team like this. He is a lot worse than DSJ as a prospect. Numbers and eye test prove that

Watch on YouTube

you that last guy playing the violin on the titanic. jump off already.

No. You're the old guy we lock in the closet before we all escape. Melo's right, btw. Cole ain't shyt. Isn't it time for your ExLax?

Juco24 · Post #759 » by **Juco24** » Wed Apr 15, 2020 10:33 pm

I'm curious to see how everyone thinks Hayes can play alongside RJ? Don't they both need the ball in their hands? Both lefty dominant? Both have suspect jumpers? The Knicks (if selecting KH) would be wise imo to move RJ to SF.... I just don't like them paired in the backcourt

HarthorneWingo · Post #760 » by **HarthorneWingo** » Thu Apr 16, 2020 12:49 am

Juco24 wrote:I'm curious to see how everyone thinks Hayes can play alongside RJ? Don't they both need the ball in their hands? Both lefty dominant? Both have suspect jumpers? The Knicks (if selecting KH) would be wise imo to move RJ to SF.... I just don't like them paired in the backcourt

That's why I say Halliburton and move RJ to the 3. I also think RJ is working hard on his shot and I hope to see it improved come next season ... whenever that is. Two lefties is an issue. They're so weird, these lefties. RJ isn't even sure if he's lefty or not. :lol: