Leon Rose named New York Knicks President of Basketball Operations [OFFICIAL pg 74]

[newyorker4ever]

He worked with Gilbert and known as a capologist. Can’t do any harm.

Tbh, Perry has been on the good side of rumors. Steve Mills was the bad one. I’m willing To give him another shot. Him and Leon cheering for RJ that first game may be a chance that they may build around him.

I'm not sure if RJ is someone you build around or if we still need that stud player to build around and RJ is just one of the pieces for building around him. I'm leaning right now that he's not that player and is just a good piece as part of a rebuild. I sure do hope i'm wrong but as we all know the Knicks always miss that star player in every draft by one pick and looks like that could be the case in last years draft and that Zion and Ja were the build around pieces.

RJ was always a top player growing up. I have no doubts this guys is going to be great. 2 way Slashing unstoppable playmaker is my view for him.

He has to learn how to shoot and that's from everywhere on the court even the FT line.

[Knicksfan1992]

What have Perry's positives resulted in? Are we better, worse, or the same under his leadership? Do we know more, less, or the same about the direction of the Knicks now than we did in 2017?

If there was a VORP for execs, where do you think Perry falls?

VORGM?

I don't think Perry has put together a large enough body of work for us to judge him on. Especially with Mills being head of bball operations.

My point exactly. I know you're not a fan of Leon but i have no reason not to trust his judgment especially with his knowledge of people around the league.

If he's been there for a few months and thinks Perry is good enough to be his right hand man then we shouldn't be worried until something happens that makes us have to be. This offseason will be interesting.

[knickstape4ever]

We doing work. I feel like Miller would make it but I do not know about Perry. Perry May stay on because of connections.

We have literally done nothing except bring on a capologist

and we haven't even done that yet

[HarthorneWingo]

VORGM?

I don't think Perry has put together a large enough body of work for us to judge him on. Especially with Mills being head of bball operations.

My point exactly. I know you're not a fan of Leon but i have no reason not to trust his judgment especially with his knowledge of people around the league.

If he's been there for a few months and thinks Perry is good enough to be his right hand man then we shouldn't be worried until something happens that makes us have to be. This offseason will be interesting.

I’ll only hold onto a grudge if I can leverage it. I’ll get to him somehow. He owes me! I want Christian Wood!

[Nazrmohamed]

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I thought I saw he had an illness but had Mills signed him as a coach perhaps he'd still have a job.

[G_K_F]

VORGM?

I don't think Perry has put together a large enough body of work for us to judge him on. Especially with Mills being head of bball operations.

My point exactly. I know you're not a fan of Leon but i have no reason not to trust his judgment especially with his knowledge of people around the league.

If he's been there for a few months and thinks Perry is good enough to be his right hand man then we shouldn't be worried until something happens that makes us have to be. This offseason will be interesting.

No reason not to trust his judgment? The guy has zero experience in this position. That's all the reasoning to not trust his judgment.

Listen man, I know this is the typical thing to do when the Knicks hire a new guy. We must forgive and forget and pretend they're good and that we need to give them a chance. You're not the first person to do this, nor the last. However, we all know how the story ultimately ends.

We know that Perry chased scrubs like Payton and Hezonja, among others. We know his ability to judge talent is below average at best. The type of player he has coveted is the same throughout - low IQ, no defense, inefficient. Leon Rose supporting him doesn't change that.

[HarthorneWingo]

I don't think Perry has put together a large enough body of work for us to judge him on. Especially with Mills being head of bball operations.

My point exactly. I know you're not a fan of Leon but i have no reason not to trust his judgment especially with his knowledge of people around the league.

If he's been there for a few months and thinks Perry is good enough to be his right hand man then we shouldn't be worried until something happens that makes us have to be. This offseason will be interesting.

No reason not to trust his judgment? The guy has zero experience in this position. That's all the reasoning to not trust his judgment.

Listen man, I know this is the typical thing to do when the Knicks hire a new guy. We must forgive and forget and pretend they're good and that we need to give them a chance. You're not the first person to do this, nor the last. However, we all know how the story ultimately ends.

We know that Perry chased scrubs like Payton and Hezonja, among others. We know his ability to judge talent is below average at best. The type of player he has coveted is the same throughout - low IQ, no defense, inefficient. Leon Rose supporting him doesn't change that.

The CBA requires us to fill out the roster. At least no one signed, except for fcking Randle, has more than a one-year contract. And we don’t know how much of that plan came from Mills. Maybe Perry did the best he could given his orders from above? We don’t know.

Hey, at least when Mills wanted to do something desperate at the trade deadline, like trade for Andre Drummond, Perry held firm against it. That’s not nothing.

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[KnicksGadfly]

Perry cost us pick position while investing valuable playing time in guys who had no future on the New York Knicks in hopes of building a "winning culture." After seeing Perry's idea of a "winning culture," I'm inclined not to waste similar time on Perry, who has no future here as well. Also, the guy has a massive boner for his previous draft busts.

[F N 11]

Perry cost us pick position while investing valuable playing time in guys who had no future on the New York Knicks in hopes of building a "winning culture." After seeing Perry's idea of a "winning culture," I'm inclined not to waste similar time on Perry, who has no future here as well. Also, the guy has a massive boner for his previous draft busts.

It’s year 3 for most of our guys and we know RJ will be better. The question is would the damn team stop trying to be funny putting selfish players with these kids that want to be the future. Get some selfless players in here.

[SWYM]

Rose doesn't know what to make of Knox?

Join the club... He's a bust in a 2003 type draft. Great job Perry!

[WargamesX]

Rose doesn't know what to make of Knox?

Join the club... He's a bust in a 2003 type draft. Great job Perry!

Why is him being 20 years old and thus needing time to physically and mentally develop so hard to grasp? He is literally a day younger than Ja Morant. He is so young there are going to be a good number of players drafted this year who are older than him too.

[Chanel Bomber]

Rose doesn't know what to make of Knox?

Join the club... He's a bust in a 2003 type draft. Great job Perry!

Why is him being 20 years old and thus needing time to physically and mentally develop so hard to grasp? He is literally a day younger than Ja Morant. He is so young there are going to be a good number of players drafted this year who are older than him too.

At some point, Milicic, Tskitishvili and Bennett were also young. Time doesn't actually benefit busts. I mean, if you actually believe in Knox because of his skill set or mental make-up then it's one thing, but I personally find the "He's only 20" argument a little empty. Hoping he pans out though.

[blanko]

Rose doesn't know what to make of Knox?

Join the club... He's a bust in a 2003 type draft. Great job Perry!

Why is him being 20 years old and thus needing time to physically and mentally develop so hard to grasp? He is literally a day younger than Ja Morant. He is so young there are going to be a good number of players drafted this year who are older than him too.

At some point, Milicic, Tskitishvili and Bennett were also young. Time doesn't actually benefit busts. I mean, if you actually believe in Knox because of his skill set or mental make-up then it's one thing, but I personally find the "He's only 20" argument a little empty. Hoping he pans out though.

For me it isnt his age per say but rather he is fairly new to the game. His dad wanted him to be an nfl quarterback, all he did until junior(?) Year was play football year around. Consider the ammount of time quaterbacks have to spend throughout the year studying the game.
He spent summers at quarterback camps rather than playing aau most of his life.
He had to swich to bball because he outgrew football.

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[Chanel Bomber]

Why is him being 20 years old and thus needing time to physically and mentally develop so hard to grasp? He is literally a day younger than Ja Morant. He is so young there are going to be a good number of players drafted this year who are older than him too.

At some point, Milicic, Tskitishvili and Bennett were also young. Time doesn't actually benefit busts. I mean, if you actually believe in Knox because of his skill set or mental make-up then it's one thing, but I personally find the "He's only 20" argument a little empty. Hoping he pans out though.

For me it isnt his age per say but rather he is fairly new to the game. His dad wanted him to be an nfl quarterback, all he did until junior(?) Year was play football year around. Consider the ammount of time quaterbacks have to spend throughout the year studying the game.
He spent summers at quarterback camps rather than playing aau most of his life.
He had to swich to bball because he outgrew football.

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That’s interesting. I wonder how the careers of NBA players with a similar path in high-school went. How their development curve looked like. It could provide some insight as to how we can expect Knox to evolve.

[knicksNOTslick]

Rose doesn't know what to make of Knox?

Join the club... He's a bust in a 2003 type draft. Great job Perry!

Why is him being 20 years old and thus needing time to physically and mentally develop so hard to grasp? He is literally a day younger than Ja Morant. He is so young there are going to be a good number of players drafted this year who are older than him too.

Who cares if he's a day younger than Morant? If anything that looks worse for Knox, since Ja is already impacting games that Kevin can only dream of impacting. Morant is way ahead in terms of development and future potential, and the only reason to keep Knox is because his value is so low you won't get anything valuable in return. If I'm another team, I won't even offer a 2nd rounder. I'll just wait a few years, give him an invite after the Knicks give up on him.

[blanko]

At some point, Milicic, Tskitishvili and Bennett were also young. Time doesn't actually benefit busts. I mean, if you actually believe in Knox because of his skill set or mental make-up then it's one thing, but I personally find the "He's only 20" argument a little empty. Hoping he pans out though.

For me it isnt his age per say but rather he is fairly new to the game. His dad wanted him to be an nfl quarterback, all he did until junior(?) Year was play football year around. Consider the ammount of time quaterbacks have to spend throughout the year studying the game.
He spent summers at quarterback camps rather than playing aau most of his life.
He had to swich to bball because he outgrew football.

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That’s interesting. I wonder how the careers of NBA players with a similar path in high-school went. How their development curve looked like. It could provide some insight as to how we can expect Knox to evolve.

Hakeem was like that iirc, alot of foreign players outgrew other sports so they changed to bball.

However, i believe that the european system is better at teaching the game than the current us system. Only because in europe the developmental divisions of pro teams are judged on development and not wins and losses. Granted, winning is a part of development but development is the focus. Thats not the same for aau, highschool, and college... in my humble opinion.

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[blanko]

Rose doesn't know what to make of Knox?

Join the club... He's a bust in a 2003 type draft. Great job Perry!

Why is him being 20 years old and thus needing time to physically and mentally develop so hard to grasp? He is literally a day younger than Ja Morant. He is so young there are going to be a good number of players drafted this year who are older than him too.

Who cares if he's a day younger than Morant? If anything that looks worse for Knox, since Ja is already impacting games that Kevin can only dream of impacting. Morant is way ahead in terms of development and future potential, and the only reason to keep Knox is because his value is so low you won't get anything valuable in return. If I'm another team, I won't even offer a 2nd rounder. I'll just wait a few years, give him an invite after the Knicks give up on him.

I agree nothing is lost by keeping him.

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[SWYM]

For me it isnt his age per say but rather he is fairly new to the game. His dad wanted him to be an nfl quarterback, all he did until junior(?) Year was play football year around. Consider the ammount of time quaterbacks have to spend throughout the year studying the game.
He spent summers at quarterback camps rather than playing aau most of his life.
He had to swich to bball because he outgrew football.

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That’s interesting. I wonder how the careers of NBA players with a similar path in high-school went. How their development curve looked like. It could provide some insight as to how we can expect Knox to evolve.

Hakeem was like that iirc, alot of foreign players outgrew other sports so they changed to bball.

However, i believe that the european system is better at teaching the game than the current us system. Only because in europe the developmental divisions of pro teams are judged on development and not wins and losses. Granted, winning is a part of development but development is the focus. Thats not the same for aau, highschool, and college... in my humble opinion.

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Hakeem is a different case, he was an elite soccer player and we should all know soccer helps out dramatically in bball bc of necessary footwork.

Knox is a bust, regardless of age

[WargamesX]

How many of you “Knox is a bust at 20” group we’re also on the “Frank is a bust at 20” group and then switched tunes?