Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics (Burning Bridges ?)

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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#61 » by mademan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:26 pm

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mademan wrote:lmao. I see the myth of the ultra physical 80's where the paint was a boxing ring is gonna continue to persist.


I'd like to see how well Lebron would score in the post against guys like Buck Williams, Karl Malone and Shawn Kemp, who get to be physical with him. His jump hook and fade-away jumper would need to be working because he's not getting all the way to the rim.


he'd be living at the line.

For all you guys who talk about it being such a hard game back then, you realize the FTr was SIGNIFICANTLY higher back then, right? While they also played at a faster pace. I legit have no idea what you guys see when you watch a full game from the 80's. The defense was freakin awful
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Post#62 » by C3H6N6O6 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:26 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:but he couldnt drop 20 on the mavs in 2011? i dont see much difference

To be fair a lot of the defense Mavs designed for LeBron was mostly illegal in previous eras. The best era for peak LeBron would be 80s followed by the era we entered around 2016 to now then mid to late 90s and the last would the 00s.
I would love seeing a guy like LeBron throwing elbows when on offense. Perimeter defenders would be terrified of following him on his drives.
Anyone who thinks that roaming defense isn't the best defense against LeBron doesn't know Basketball. LeBron would absolutely love playing in the 80s.
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Post#63 » by kg01 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:29 pm

MotownMadness wrote:If LeBron isnt avg 90 per game in a soft era where a dude like Trae young is a 30ppg player then hes sure as hell not doing it a much more competitive era.


You wish Trae Young was a Piston and you know it.

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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#64 » by Koreandoo » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:35 pm

Lebron wouldn't avg 90 against the Boston thats just a dumb comment. But the disrespect you guy's bring against LeBron over a thing Mikal Bridges said is even dumber.
We all now what Lebron can do even on bad teams the 07 Cavs reached the final with probably the worst supporting cast a Superstar had while reaching the finals and the 2015 finals were impressive too. I think Lebron could do a great job in the 80's he is a solid shooter and shooting wasn't that good here so I would consider him a good shooter there.
I could see him avg like Micheal 43 ppg in a series if he's very aggressive like in that Lebronto or Detroit sequence.
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#65 » by Effigy » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:41 pm

SCTwins wrote:Jordan Dickey Simpkins would take Bridges lunch money on the playground every single day.



Fixed that for you.
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Post#66 » by Hindenburg » Tue Apr 21, 2020 7:45 pm

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Post#67 » by Impuniti » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:02 pm

kg01 wrote:It's ok to suggest James would've done well or stte. Lebron's great, after all.

But to go to the extreme like that just makes him look disrespectful and under-informed, to put it nicely.

Plutonashfan wrote:Mikal Bridges is an idiot.

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Post#68 » by The-Power » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:12 pm

Meh. Previous players and fans of players like MJ come out all the time and tell everyone how MJ and others would average [insert hyperbolic number] PPG if they played today. Now a player of today's generation uses the same obvious hyperbole only in the opposite direction and everybody freaks out? That's pretty weak, unless you also complain when it's older players saying stuff like that about today's era.
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Post#69 » by TheGOATRises007 » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:14 pm

The-Power wrote:Meh. Previous players and fans of players like MJ come out all the time and tell everyone how MJ and others would average [insert hyperbolic number] PPG if they played today. Now a player of today's generation uses the same obvious hyperbole only in the opposite direction and everybody freaks out? That's pretty weak, unless you also complain when it's older players saying stuff like that about today's era.


I mean there's a big difference between saying MJ would average 50 a game in today's NBA vs Lebron averaging 90 a game vs one of the best teams ever.

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Post#70 » by queridiculo » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:17 pm

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Post#71 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:23 pm

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generation Z is pushing back against this MJ campaign.
I know some collegiate players who refuse to even watch it because anybody could doninate back then.
A whole generation of athletes who have little concept on basketball, but still excel at it. Its amazing.









You know that if LBJ played in that era, he probably wouldn't be as buff as he is now and if the 86 Celtics played today, all of them would have different physics, as all their stars were fantastic pros. Considering the C's defense, LBJ wouldn't score 90 on them, ever. Unless they move out of his way. Hell, LBJ can't score 90 right now, considering very little physical play is allowed in the NBA and LBJ has barely taken any physical beating in his career. He's been the one dishing it out.
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Post#72 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:26 pm

Liam_Gallagher wrote:I honestly hate when people compare current players and how they'd do in previous eras. It's apples and oranges. The only reason players are so good today is because the 80's set the platform.

They don't understand context.


Agree. Today's game is a lot more about aesthetics and big names, not that it wasn't back then, but the league prompts up marketable players like crazy nowadays and makes sure they are safe.
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Post#73 » by azwfan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:26 pm

Brandon_Roy wrote:

generation Z is pushing back against this MJ campaign.
I know some collegiate players who refuse to even watch it because anybody could doninate back then.
A whole generation of athletes who have little concept on basketball, but still excel at it. Its amazing.








I don't know how many points Lebron would've scored against the Celtics. But one thing is for sure. He wouldn't have been wearing #23. He'd probably wear #6 or something.
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Post#74 » by MemphisX » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:27 pm

Basketball, interestingly enough, seems to be the only athletic feat in which the athletes have not improved drastically after 30 years. :crazy:
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Post#75 » by BenoUdrihFTL » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:29 pm

C3H6N6O6 wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:but he couldnt drop 20 on the mavs in 2011? i dont see much difference

To be fair a lot of the defense Mavs designed for LeBron was mostly illegal in previous eras. The best era for peak LeBron would be 80s followed by the era we entered around 2016 to now then mid to late 90s and the last would the 00s.
I would love seeing a guy like LeBron throwing elbows when on offense. Perimeter defenders would be terrified of following him on his drives.
Anyone who thinks that roaming defense isn't the best defense against LeBron doesn't know Basketball. LeBron would absolutely love playing in the 80s.

There was plenty of de facto zone played vs Jordan


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5K-qGWkiKvQ#t=40[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NLv2F33snCE#t=92[/youtube]

Keep in mind that LeBron playing vs 80s/90s defenses means LeBron would be playing WITH 80s/90s teammates, so the floor-spacing would be almost non-existent relative to today. Defensive "walls" in the paint would be routine
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Post#76 » by MemphisX » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:30 pm

FlatearthZorro wrote:
Liam_Gallagher wrote:I honestly hate when people compare current players and how they'd do in previous eras. It's apples and oranges. The only reason players are so good today is because the 80's set the platform.

They don't understand context.


Agree. Today's game is a lot more about aesthetics and big names, not that it wasn't back then, but the league prompts up marketable players like crazy nowadays and makes sure they are safe.



You do know this originated with Jordan right? Superstar calls were the sole province of MJ. He was essentially Harden before Harden. Y'all need to go back and read some old Sporting News articles or something. People re-inventing NBA history.
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Post#77 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:31 pm

MemphisX wrote:
FlatearthZorro wrote:
Liam_Gallagher wrote:I honestly hate when people compare current players and how they'd do in previous eras. It's apples and oranges. The only reason players are so good today is because the 80's set the platform.

They don't understand context.


Agree. Today's game is a lot more about aesthetics and big names, not that it wasn't back then, but the league prompts up marketable players like crazy nowadays and makes sure they are safe.



You do know this originated with Jordan right? Superstar calls were the sole province of MJ. He was essentially Harden before Harden. Y'all need to go back and read some old Sporting News articles or something. People re-inventing NBA history.


Yup, I said that. And no he wasn't Harden. Harden wont play the defense MJ played if he had 3 more careers.
Good assessment:

PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Post#78 » by mademan » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:33 pm

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C3H6N6O6 wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:but he couldnt drop 20 on the mavs in 2011? i dont see much difference

To be fair a lot of the defense Mavs designed for LeBron was mostly illegal in previous eras. The best era for peak LeBron would be 80s followed by the era we entered around 2016 to now then mid to late 90s and the last would the 00s.
I would love seeing a guy like LeBron throwing elbows when on offense. Perimeter defenders would be terrified of following him on his drives.
Anyone who thinks that roaming defense isn't the best defense against LeBron doesn't know Basketball. LeBron would absolutely love playing in the 80s.

There was plenty of de facto zone played vs Jordan


[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=5K-qGWkiKvQ#t=40[/youtube]
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=NLv2F33snCE#t=92[/youtube]

Keep in mind that LeBron playing vs 80s/90s defenses means LeBron would be playing WITH 80s/90s teammates, so the floor-spacing would be almost non-existent relative to today. Defensive "walls" in the paint would be routine





I want you to watch this game, or at least part of it, and tell me with a straight face this is good defense. Hands down, nobody moving, poor rotations, poor contests, not getting back on defense..etc. I mean, they should, theoretically, have the advantage of no 3 in the key defense and poor spacing, but the paint is still wide open.

This is good defense to you guys? Seriously? This is freakin awful
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Post#79 » by FlatearthZorro » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:35 pm

Wilber85 wrote:How are yall even comparing eras ? So different !

Those guys were juggernauts and played high minutes and a lot of games. They even had old technology , training staffs . More rough with each other , hand check, defense , etc

Guys are resting these days with top of the line technology, staff, etc . High pace offense , and tic tac fouls !

Jordan would put up 50 ppg , and Lebron would be begging him to team up


Outside of the technology, load management to add to other perks of basketball's evolution. You could also say not every star goes really hard in the regular season. I've had the opportunity to watch LBJ many times the past 5 years before joining the Lakers and the guy is playing only on offense for the most part. He's always been glued to the other team's worst offensive player on defense. Which spares him even further.
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PLO wrote:Tatum played OK - took advantage of a few mismatches - decent on the defensive end. He is what we thought he was going into the season - a technically very proficient player operating close to his career ceiling as a rookie.
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Re: Mikal Bridges says LeBron would get 90 a game against 86' Celtics 

Post#80 » by Triple M » Tue Apr 21, 2020 8:39 pm

LeBron of today would be the best athlete in that series, but LeBron playing in the 80s would have developed into a completely different player. I never understood the need to rank player cross-generationally and why it's predominantly basketball related discussion.

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