2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3)

[8516knicks]

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Honestly, Smith looks better in their respective vids.

It does? To you? Yikes!

they can both hit wide-open unguarded 3's so, yeah, i'll pick them for my Y team but it needs to translate. Didn't see Smith sky in it but Cole pretty earth bound even his dunks not far over the rim. Maybe we should sign The Professor>?

Gotta check out Maxey now cause anyone remotely like a young Kyle Lowery would be absolute GOLD for the Knicks.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Same

I like Kira too. He is a year younger then Cole too since he skipped a year of school. I was surprised when I heard that since he is a sophmore.

He has his flaws, but may have a lot of development time left. His jumper looks pretty good though and has the speed

Yeah, he’s actually younger than a lot of the year one players. I would say he reminds me of sexton but that’s probably because they both played for Alabama

Can see the similiarity where they both fly around the court and play with high energy in the same uniform, although there game is a little different. Sexton was bigger/stronger..more of a bull in the paint. Kira was a little more finese, better in the perimeter..Maybe Kira can be a better facilitator, where Sexton is the better scorer.

[moocow007]

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Honestly, Smith looks better in their respective vids.

It does? To you? Yikes!

What exactly is the difference between Dennis Smith hitting wide open shots and Cole Anthony hitting wide open shots? Smith's shooting form isn't ideal but do you really think Cole Anthony's shooting form is all that better? Seriously? Cause it's not. Both guys forms are still flawed. And whether Dennis Smith Jr has been flub and vast disappointment or not (and he has) has nothing to do with shooting open shots and that's what you are showing of Cole Anthony. But that's not really even the point.

The bottom line is that vids like this doesn't show a thing about Cole Anthony that should be changing the minds of anyone which, I'm guessing is why you are posting this. Just like the vid of Dennis Smith Jr. shooting open shots before the season, of him running up and down the stairs and fields shouldn't. Just like Carmelo Anthony vids of him pushing the truck tires around shouldn't. None of that really says anything about anything in terms of what they can do for the Knicks (or any other team) on the basketball court cause no one is going to be shooting wide open 2's and 3's in an empty gym nor having to push truck tires around when the game starts.

Vids like these are worse than highlight vids in trying to prove a point since at least in the highlight vids you can see what a player can do under the best of in game situations. I mean I'm pretty sure there's a vid of Mitch Robinson shooting and hitting wide open jumpers as well. We all know that Cole Anthony shoots the ball in games, the problem is his perceived and/or real shooting problems in games. This doesn't really somehow show that the poor shooting percentage in games is somehow now a lesser concern than it was before this vid. In fact, for me it actually raises some more concerns about his ability to change directions dribbling the ball cause he looks a bit mechanical switching the ball between either hand while dribbling. Now I'm sure that that's probably just a part of the drill he was running but still...the vid wasn't impressive.

Maybe it's just me? And yes, if you show me a vid of LaMelo Ball shooting in an open gym it'll likely look a lot worse.

[moocow007]

Here's Mitchell Robinson shooting a 3. He may actually have a better form on his shot than either Cole Anthonys push shot or Dennis Smith leaning tower of pizza shot.

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[HEZI]

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Honestly, Smith looks better in their respective vids.

It does? To you? Yikes!

What exactly is the difference between Dennis Smith hitting wide open shots and Cole Anthony hitting wide open shots? Smith's shooting form isn't ideal but do you really think Cole Anthony's shooting form is better? Seriously? Cause it's not. Smith's form is better and they are both flawed. And whether Dennis Smith Jr has been flub and vast disappointment or not (and he has) has nothing to do with shooting open shots and that's what you are showing of Cole Anthony. But that's not really even the point.

The bottom line is that vids like this doesn't show a thing about Cole Anthony that should be changing the minds of anyone which, I'm guessing is why you are posting this. Just like the vid of Dennis Smith Jr. shooting open shots before the season, of him running up and down the stairs and fields shouldn't. Just like Carmelo Anthony vids of him pushing the truck tires around shouldn't. None of that really says anything about anything in terms of what they can do for the Knicks (or any other team) on the basketball court cause no one is going to be shooting wide open 3's in an empty gym nor having to push truck tires around when the game starts.

Vids like these are worse than highlight vids in trying to prove a point since at least in the highlight vids you can see what a player can do under the best of in game situations. I mean I'm pretty sure there's a vid of Mitch Robinson shooting and hitting wide open jumpers as well. We all know that Cole Anthony shoots the ball in games, the problem is his perceived and/or real shooting problems in games.
This doesn't really somehow show that the poor shooting percentage in games is somehow now a lesser concern than it was before this vid.

He's got the best 3 point shooting percentage on over 6 attempts per game than any of the freshman or sophomore PGs in his draft class. Haliburton has a better percentage but on less volume. Nobody else projected to go in the 1st round is shooting 35% from 3 on over 6 attempts a game but leave it up to Moocow to try to convince me that he can't shoot and his jumper is worse than DSJ

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[moocow007]

It does? To you? Yikes!

What exactly is the difference between Dennis Smith hitting wide open shots and Cole Anthony hitting wide open shots? Smith's shooting form isn't ideal but do you really think Cole Anthony's shooting form is better? Seriously? Cause it's not. Smith's form is better and they are both flawed. And whether Dennis Smith Jr has been flub and vast disappointment or not (and he has) has nothing to do with shooting open shots and that's what you are showing of Cole Anthony. But that's not really even the point.

The bottom line is that vids like this doesn't show a thing about Cole Anthony that should be changing the minds of anyone which, I'm guessing is why you are posting this. Just like the vid of Dennis Smith Jr. shooting open shots before the season, of him running up and down the stairs and fields shouldn't. Just like Carmelo Anthony vids of him pushing the truck tires around shouldn't. None of that really says anything about anything in terms of what they can do for the Knicks (or any other team) on the basketball court cause no one is going to be shooting wide open 3's in an empty gym nor having to push truck tires around when the game starts.

Vids like these are worse than highlight vids in trying to prove a point since at least in the highlight vids you can see what a player can do under the best of in game situations. I mean I'm pretty sure there's a vid of Mitch Robinson shooting and hitting wide open jumpers as well. We all know that Cole Anthony shoots the ball in games, the problem is his perceived and/or real shooting problems in games.
This doesn't really somehow show that the poor shooting percentage in games is somehow now a lesser concern than it was before this vid.

He's got the best 3 point shooting percentage on over 6 attempts per game than any of the freshman or sophomore PGs in his draft class. Haliburton has a better percentage but on less volume. Nobody else projected to go in the 1st round is shooting 35% from 3 on over 6 attempts a game but leave it up to Moocow to try to convince me that he can't shoot and his jumper is worse than DSJ

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So him being the best of the worst is somehow proof of what? What are you saying? That this crop of PG's aren't 3 point shooters? I agree. I've been saying this and yet folks are STILL saying don't take this guy or that guy cause they can't shoot 3's. Heck, I've said Haliburton's 3 point shooting percentage is overrated and that he's got a slow release.

You tell me, what exactly is the point of this Cole Anthony video?

Who else, after seeing this video, is now impressed with Cole Anthony that wasn't before or that is no longer impressed that was before?

Were you just showing this for show with no real point to make? If so, then sure, I agree, this vid has served it's purpose.

[HEZI]

What exactly is the difference between Dennis Smith hitting wide open shots and Cole Anthony hitting wide open shots? Smith's shooting form isn't ideal but do you really think Cole Anthony's shooting form is better? Seriously? Cause it's not. Smith's form is better and they are both flawed. And whether Dennis Smith Jr has been flub and vast disappointment or not (and he has) has nothing to do with shooting open shots and that's what you are showing of Cole Anthony. But that's not really even the point.

The bottom line is that vids like this doesn't show a thing about Cole Anthony that should be changing the minds of anyone which, I'm guessing is why you are posting this. Just like the vid of Dennis Smith Jr. shooting open shots before the season, of him running up and down the stairs and fields shouldn't. Just like Carmelo Anthony vids of him pushing the truck tires around shouldn't. None of that really says anything about anything in terms of what they can do for the Knicks (or any other team) on the basketball court cause no one is going to be shooting wide open 3's in an empty gym nor having to push truck tires around when the game starts.

Vids like these are worse than highlight vids in trying to prove a point since at least in the highlight vids you can see what a player can do under the best of in game situations. I mean I'm pretty sure there's a vid of Mitch Robinson shooting and hitting wide open jumpers as well. We all know that Cole Anthony shoots the ball in games, the problem is his perceived and/or real shooting problems in games.
This doesn't really somehow show that the poor shooting percentage in games is somehow now a lesser concern than it was before this vid.

He's got the best 3 point shooting percentage on over 6 attempts per game than any of the freshman or sophomore PGs in his draft class. Haliburton has a better percentage but on less volume. Nobody else projected to go in the 1st round is shooting 35% from 3 on over 6 attempts a game but leave it up to Moocow to try to convince me that he can't shoot and his jumper is worse than DSJ

Go have a seat

So him being the best of the worst is somehow proof of what? What are you saying? That this crop of PG's aren't 3 point shooters? I agree. I've been saying this and yet folks are STILL saying don't take this guy or that guy cause they can't shoot 3's.

You tell me, what exactly is the point of this Cole Anthony video?

Who else, after seeing this video, is now impressed with Cole Anthony that wasn't before or that is no longer impressed that was before?

Were you just showing this for show with no real point to make? If so, then sure, I agree.

It's just a video but it exposed you for not knowing what you are talking about

*instert old man yells at cloud gif

[moocow007]

He's got the best 3 point shooting percentage on over 6 attempts per game than any of the freshman or sophomore PGs in his draft class. Haliburton has a better percentage but on less volume. Nobody else projected to go in the 1st round is shooting 35% from 3 on over 6 attempts a game but leave it up to Moocow to try to convince me that he can't shoot and his jumper is worse than DSJ

Go have a seat

So him being the best of the worst is somehow proof of what? What are you saying? That this crop of PG's aren't 3 point shooters? I agree. I've been saying this and yet folks are STILL saying don't take this guy or that guy cause they can't shoot 3's.

You tell me, what exactly is the point of this Cole Anthony video?

Who else, after seeing this video, is now impressed with Cole Anthony that wasn't before or that is no longer impressed that was before?

Were you just showing this for show with no real point to make? If so, then sure, I agree.

It's just a video but it exposed you for not knowing what you are talking about

*instert old man yells at cloud gif

What is it that I don't know? That a video of Cole Anthony shooting against no defenders doesn't mean a thing? Instead of insulting me (usually what folks resort to when they can't argue anything substantial) why don't you tell me what this video proves? You clearly are a defender of Cole Anthony right? So tell me, what exactly does this video show to defend your stance on the guy? You can't. That's why you rely on insults right? How about growing up a bit and just defending your position with something more than insults. What are you? A 11 year old? <-- see that's an insult too and it sounds as stupid as your insults.

[HEZI]

It's a poor shooting PG draft class therefore Cole Anthony is a poor outside shooter too, oh the logic there

Bravo! LMAO

[moocow007]

It's a poor shooting PG draft class therefore Cole Anthony is a poor outside shooter too, oh the logic there

Bravo! LMAO

So you are basically this guy?



Funny I thought you were pushing for Cole Anthony.

[moocow007]

If your goal was to be Captain Obvious then you've succeeded.

If your goal was to prove that Cole Anthony was worth taking or a good shooter then you've failed.

[moocow007]

Anyone else? Someone? Who was impressed after watching that Cole Anthony video?

[HEZI]

So him being the best of the worst is somehow proof of what? What are you saying? That this crop of PG's aren't 3 point shooters? I agree. I've been saying this and yet folks are STILL saying don't take this guy or that guy cause they can't shoot 3's.

You tell me, what exactly is the point of this Cole Anthony video?

Who else, after seeing this video, is now impressed with Cole Anthony that wasn't before or that is no longer impressed that was before?

Were you just showing this for show with no real point to make? If so, then sure, I agree.

It's just a video but it exposed you for not knowing what you are talking about

*instert old man yells at cloud gif

What is it that I don't know? That a video of Cole Anthony shooting against no defenders doesn't mean a thing? Instead of insulting me (usually what folks resort to when they can't argue anything substantial) why don't you tell me what this video proves? You clearly are a defender of Cole Anthony right? So tell me, what exactly does this video show to defend your stance on the guy? You can't. That's why you rely on insults right? How about growing up a bit and just defending your position with something more than insults. What are you? A 11 year old?

It's a practice shooting drill. Do you know how GMs are going to be conducting private workouts? Just like that, because of the pandemic going around this is how teams are going to be valuating private workouts. This is all we got. Even when players were able to practice in a gym with staff we never had access to those workouts. This is all we got.

As far as the video itself, I'm looking at his base, how his feet are set, his core, does he dip the ball, where is the point of the release, how quick does he get it off, where is his landing spot, how comfortable is he on the move, etc. Just little details that might not matter to you but to me it's something I take notice of.

The fact that you think DSJ has a better jumper tells me a lot though

[HEZI]

Anyone else? Someone? Who was impressed after watching that Cole Anthony video?

It's ok man, you just gotta accept the fact that not all of us have our jaws around Lamelo Ball's

[Capn'O]

Here's Mitchell Robinson shooting a 3. He may actually have a better form on his shot than either Cole Anthonys push shot or Dennis Smith leaning tower of pizza shot.

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Mitch needs to let it fly in games already. COVID SchmOVID.

[HEZI]

Here's Mitchell Robinson shooting a 3. He may actually have a better form on his shot than either Cole Anthonys push shot or Dennis Smith leaning tower of pizza shot.

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Mitch needs to let it fly in games already. COVID SchmOVID.

He should. If they hire Atkinson it would be good if he encouraged him to do so. Would unleash Mitch to a new level which we need from him. Robin Lopez is shooting 3s now, so there is no excuse for Mitch not shooting because he has a much better looking jumper than a lot of centers that are shooting nowadays. You ever seen Aaron Baynes jumper? It's ugly but he launches them thanks to Brad Stevens encouraging him to do so. Mitch needs to let it fly!

[CoreyVillains]

I think I wrote Kira off too early because I’ve only watched him play a few times in games against Kentucky and he was pretty bad in all 3 of those games, plus just that he was a year 2 guy

In his games against UK
Last season
4-14 12 pts
1-5 3 pts (sec tournament, then they lost to Norfolk st in the ncaa tournament and he again wasn’t impressive to me)
This season
4-11 10 pts

But looking at the game logs it appears these were some of his worst performances so I’ve been watching a lot of other highlight footage on him

Year 2 guy but he’s younger than most of the freshman.

[robillionaire]

I think I wrote Kira off too early because I’ve only watched him play a few times in games against Kentucky and he was pretty bad in all 3 of those games, plus just that he was a year 2 guy

In his games against UK
Last season
4-14 12 pts
1-5 3 pts (sec tournament, then they lost to Norfolk st in the ncaa tournament and he again wasn’t impressive to me)
This season
4-11 10 pts

But looking at the game logs it appears these were some of his worst performances so I’ve been watching a lot of other highlight footage on him

Year 2 guy but he’s younger than most of the freshman.

yeah I mentioned that in the post above that one, younger than wiseman, cole, okongwu, okoro, maxey, hampton, avdija, and others

[RHODEY]

Anyone else? Someone? Who was impressed after watching that Cole Anthony video?

I wasn't impressed or unimpressed. Its true that none of these guys will be confused for Steph Curry at this point. But I would think atleast some will become solid to more than solid shooters. Im not expert but his mechanics seem ok and he doesn't seem to be as mentally fragile as DJR.

Ofcourse we wont know until the season starts. I read more than a few reports saying that Lamelo could develop into a decent shooter ans Hayes as well.

Haliburton still intrigues me, slow release and all. To me he's the guy that will be better than he looks. But that isn't based on anything solid, just his intangibles.

[jvsimonetti0514]

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Honestly, Smith looks better in their respective vids.

That doesn't really surprise me because outside of the first cell phone video in Smith's the video is edited like a highlight package. I work as a video editor and with the hindsight of how Smith shot this season, his team was definitely trying to fool us into this he fixed his jumper. Majority of the video isn't showing him connecting consecutive jumpers in a row and it's always filmed from a weird angle to not get a good look of his form. Cole's looked like he just filmed a work out. He definitely took his best sequences too but I think it will better tape for talent evaluators. If anything he should do a video of him working on improving his finishing, since it's the biggest hole in his game. Sam Vecenie mentioned that front offices are only going off of game film and he was pretty bad in like half of his so getting some good work out footage is smart move from his camp. If I've advising any of these kids I'd tell him to video's like this too.

OT: Is Chris Brinkley consider good as his job? I remember he used to work with us but I can't think of who he's ever really helped develop.