Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[xdrta+]

The US will have it's highest number of new cases today, incredible.

But Republican governors can't wait to open up the tattoo parlors and nail salons.

[Smirkin Dirk]

Do the large numbers of Americans who support Trump and wave their freedom flag bull realise how stupid they look to the rest of the world?

[bwgood77]

Do the large numbers of Americans who support Trump and wave their freedom flag bull realise how stupid they look to the rest of the world?

I don't think so. But lets try and get this thread off of all the Trump discussion. There is enough of that on the boards that it's for. I know this is a hard topic to discuss without talking about him and what he does but lets try to talk about how it's impacting various people, cities, countries, #s, tests, experiences, etc.

[13th Man]

Do the large numbers of Americans who support Trump and wave their freedom flag bull realise how stupid they look to the rest of the world?

My last word on Trump and I'm done. I'm not even American so I don't care to defend him tooth and nail. Since I am right leaning, I support him more on his policies than on his behaviour.

He is not without criticism for sure. He often shoots from the hip which can land him in hot water with his tweets and with his words. He likes to stroke his ego a bit too much, defends himself by saying what he did right rather than directly address the questions of what he did wrong. He also likes to go off on tangents (part of the ego stroking), I mean how many times do we need to hear about the Chinese travel ban or the amount of ventilators that they've procured? This can get tiresome especially when they're doing 1.5hr briefings daily.

About his statements yesterday, yes they were dumb. My only defense of that was that he got overly excited about the presentation and openly voiced his musings. Was it stupid, inappropriate, egotistic and even disrespectful to the medical community? Probably. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. So once again, Trump responded by saying that he said it sarcastically which I don't buy at all. It's just that his ego is too big for him to admit that he blundered. Everybody is jumping on this incident though almost as if it's evidence of an impeachable offense....whatever. You guys got your gotcha moment, enjoy it and move on.

So there, hope you guys don't think that all Trump supporters are irrational blind followers. Some support him mainly on his stance on various policies.

[nymets1]

Last night's numbers as of 8:30 pm from bing.com/covid

USA- 887,787 confirmed cases(+30,502 increase), Recoveries- 81,792(+4582 increase), Deaths- 50,177(+2427 increase)
New York- 263,632 confirmed cases(+6416 increase)
New Jersey- 99,989 confirmed cases(+4124 increase)
Mass- 46,023 confirmed cases(+4824 increase)
California- 39,009 confirmed cases(+1723 increase)
Penn- 37,069 confirmed cases(+1385 increase)
Illinois- 36,934 confirmed cases(+1826 increase)
Michigan- 35,291 confirmed cases(+1325 increase)
Florida- 29,648 confirmed cases(+1072 increase)
Louisana- 25,739 confirmed cases(+481 increase)
Connecticut- 23,100 confirmed cases(+631 increase)
Texas- 21,944 confirmed cases(+191 increase)
Georgia- 21,883 confirmed cases(+781 increase)
Maryland- 15,737 confirmed cases(+903 increase)
Ohio- 14,694 confirmed cases(+577 increase)
Indiana- 13,069 confirmed cases(+601 increase)
Washington- 12,494 confirmed cases(+133 increase)
Colorado- 11,262 confirmed cases(+384 increase)
Virginia- 10,988 confirmed cases(+732 increase)

Spain- 213,024 confirmed cases(+1300 increase), Recoveries- 89,250(+3335 increase)
Italy- 189,973 confirmed cases, Active cases- 106,648, Recoveries- 57,776(+6176 increase)
Germany- 152,663 confirmed cases, Active cases- 51,343, Recoveries- 95,817(+4105 increase)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

USA- 879,430 confirmed cases, Recoveries- 85,624, Deaths- 49,769
New York- 268,581 confirmed cases(+6313 increase)
New Jersey- 99,989 confirmed cases(+4124 increase)
Mass- 46,023 confirmed cases(+3079 increase)
California- 39,009 confirmed cases(+1666 increase)
Penn- 37,053 confirmed cases(+1809 increase)
Illinois- 36,934 confirmed cases(+1826 increase)
Michigan- 35,291 confirmed cases(+1325 increase)
Florida- 29,648 confirmed cases(+1072 increase)
Louisana- 25,739 confirmed cases(+481 increase)
Connecticut- 23,100 confirmed cases(+631 increase)
Texas- 22,393 confirmed cases(+935 increase)
Georgia- 21,883 confirmed cases(+781 increase)
Maryland- 15,737 confirmed cases(+962 increase)
Ohio- 14,694 confirmed cases(+577 increase)
Indiana- 13,069 confirmed cases(+601 increase)

1. New Jersey is about to reach 100,000 confirmed cases on Friday
2. Louisana is now 13 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day, Friday would be 2 full weeks
3. Washington has had a small increase in new confirmed cases over 2 full weeks now
4. Texas now 12 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day, almost at 2 full weeks
5. USA, Spain, Italy and Germany all with their great recovery numbers today

Today's numbers as of 9pm from bing.com/covid

USA- 921,958 confirmed cases, Recoveries- 99,330(+17,538 increase), Deaths- 52,202(+2025 increase)
New York- 271,890 confirmed cases(+8430 increase)
New Jersey- 102,196 confirmed cases(+2207 increase)
Mass- 50,969 confirmed cases(+4946 increase)
California- 39,684 confirmed cases(+675 increase)
Illinois- 39,658 confirmed cases(+2724 increase)
Penn- 38,652 confirmed cases(+1583 increase)
Michigan- 36,641 confirmed cases(+1350 increase)
Florida- 30,533 confirmed cases(+885 increase)
Louisiana- 26,140 confirmed cases(+401 increase)
Connecticut- 23,921 confirmed cases(+821 increase)
Texas- 22,806 confirmed cases, Active cases- 13,057
Georgia- 22,491 confirmed cases(+608 increase)
Maryland- 16,816 confirmed cases(+811 increase)
Ohio- 15,169 confirmed cases(+475 increase)
Indiana- 13,680 confirmed cases(+641 increase)
Colorado- 12,256 confirmed cases(+1378 increase)

Germany- 154,999 confirmed cases, Active cases- 49,311, Recoveries- 99,928(+4111 increase)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

USA- 923,634 confirmed cases, Recoveries- 110,400, Deaths- 52,092
New York- 276,711 confirmed cases(+8130 increase)
New Jersey- 102,196 confirmed cases(+2171 increase)
Mass- 50,969 confirmed cases(+4946 increase)
California- 40,812 confirmed cases(+1524 increase)
Penn- 40,149 confirmed cases(+3096 increase)
Illinois- 39,658 confirmed cases(+2724 increase)
Michigan- 36,641 confirmed cases(+1350 increase)
Florida- 30,533 confirmed cases(+885 increase)
Louisana- 26,140 confirmed cases(+401 increase)
Connecticut- 23,921 confirmed cases(+821 increase)
Texas- 23,170 confirmed cases(+777 increase)
Georgia- 22,491 confirmed cases(+608 increase)
Maryland- 16,616 confirmed cases(+879 increase)
Ohio- 15,169 confirmed cases(+475 increase)
Indiana- 13,680 confirmed cases(+641 increase)
Colorado- 12,256 confirmed cases(+994 increase)

1. New Jersey is now over 100,000 confirmed cases
2. New York is approaching 300,000 confirmed cases maybe Monday or Tuesday
3. Louisana is now 14 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day
4. Washington has had a small increase in new confirmed cases over 2 full weeks now
5. Texas now 13 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day, Saturday could be 2 full weeks
6. Georgia only increased by 608 new cases today as they opened up their hair cut/barber shops, beauty salons, etc
7. USA with well over 10,000 recoveries today. Bing reports an increase of 17,538 while worldometers is easily over 20,000 USA recoveries today.
8. Colorado had a big jump in new cases today around the 1000 mark
9. Bing shows Germany with 154,999 confirmed cases, Active cases, 49,311 and Recoveries 99,928 in contrast to
worldometers shows Germany has 154,999 confirmed cases, Active cases- 42,439 and Recoveries 106,8000

[ThunderBolt]

I am working from home, staying inside except for dog walking and grocery store runs and I still have covid toes. I thought I went to hard on a jump rope workout and busted some blood vessels. Nope.

[Pointgod]

The US will have it's highest number of new cases today, incredible.

You mean highest single day number or total new cases?

[HotRocks34]

Miami-Dade antibody test initial results out:
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/04/24/miami-dade-mayor-um-researchers-discuss-initial-findings-of-covid-19-study/


Summary:
- About 1400 people tested (article refers to 1800 but think it's actually 1400; see article in next post)
- Looks like around 6% of those tested have had or been exposed to the virus
- 6% would equate to 165,000 people in the county having had or been exposed to the virus
- Current number of positive cases in the county is about 11,000 (see site below)
- If 6% figure is accurate, then Miami-Dade has had at least 15 times as many cases than positive tests


REFERENCES:
Florida county-by-county cases info
https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/96dd742462124fa0b38ddedb9b25e429

[HotRocks34]

More on the Miami antibody test:
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242260406.html

- Will be done weekly
- Supposedly done at random



Test subject selection method:

UM researchers say their findings are more robust than most because they used Florida Power & Light to generate phone numbers in targeted demographic areas, leading to a more randomized selection of participants.

[dhsilv2]

I live in a pretty active area and I've never seen more people outside walking and running than these last few weeks. It seems people are going outside more than ever during all this.

Yeah it's because there's literally nothing else to do.

Gyms are closed. Parks are closed. Beaches are closed. Golf courses are closed. Bowling Alleys are closed. Etc. Etc.

You have pretty much two choices: stay in your house or walk/run/bike on the street or drive around in your car

Also kids are not in school so they are out on their bikes. This is craziness. Hopefully it'll be over soon.

Yep. I just got back from a 2hr walk myself. Yes, it's great to see individuals and families walking outside even on cold and cloudy day like today. Shows how important it is to get out for fresh air, to be exposed to the natural elements. We all left more than enough distance along the pathways and I'm not worried for one second that I would contract something from them. Inside grocery stores and buildings is a different story.

Well, runners now and then need a swift kick in the junk as they seem to miss the 6 foot rules, but yeah overall it's been pretty nice. That said I don't live in an area with a lot of kids, I can't imagine how horrible it must be for people who have to deal with those...umm "bundles of joy" lol.

[lakerz12]

so when Obama was president Fox News did not tolerate bias against him? you think irrational bias against Trump is worse than Obama?

And why do studies show Fox News viewers to be worse informed than any other major media consumers? is it because of their commitement to fair and balanced reporting?

The impeachmenet ended with a trial where Republicans refused to call in witnesses....Meanwhile Benghazi lasted just as long and a republican law maker straight up admitted on camera the whole point of those proceedings where to make Hilary look bad

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

Wow, this is pathetic. You mean like when he suggests people should ingest bleach to kill the virus, those biased journalists are just trying to make him look bad by reporting it. Nobody has to make him look bad, he can do that all by himself.

Please post a video of Trump saying people should ingest bleach.

I've been unable to find Trump ever saying that. But I'd like to see it.

[xdrta+]

The lead story in tonight's paper: "U.S. officials scramble to warn against bogus cure floated by Trump." "The federal government scrambled Friday to stave off a potential wave of public health emergencies sparked by President Trump’s dangerous suggestion that injecting bleach or other household disinfectants into the body might cure people of the novel coronavirus."

A separate story: "The Food and Drug Administration warned Friday against the use of hydroxychloroquine — the anti-malarial drug that Trump repeatedly has promoted as a “game-changer” miracle cure for covid-19 — because it has been found to cause serious heart rhythm problems."

The man is a serious danger to public health.

[Wilfried]

Do the large numbers of Americans who support Trump and wave their freedom flag bull realise how stupid they look to the rest of the world?

My last word on Trump and I'm done. I'm not even American so I don't care to defend him tooth and nail. Since I am right leaning, I support him more on his policies than on his behaviour.

He is not without criticism for sure. He often shoots from the hip which can land him in hot water with his tweets and with his words. He likes to stroke his ego a bit too much, defends himself by saying what he did right rather than directly address the questions of what he did wrong. He also likes to go off on tangents (part of the ego stroking), I mean how many times do we need to hear about the Chinese travel ban or the amount of ventilators that they've procured? This can get tiresome especially when they're doing 1.5hr briefings daily.

About his statements yesterday, yes they were dumb. My only defense of that was that he got overly excited about the presentation and openly voiced his musings. Was it stupid, inappropriate, egotistic and even disrespectful to the medical community? Probably. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. So once again, Trump responded by saying that he said it sarcastically which I don't buy at all. It's just that his ego is too big for him to admit that he blundered. Everybody is jumping on this incident though almost as if it's evidence of an impeachable offense....whatever. You guys got your gotcha moment, enjoy it and move on.

So there, hope you guys don't think that all Trump supporters are irrational blind followers. Some support him mainly on his stance on various policies.

I'm not American either. And I don't care if someone is right, left, or something other. But that doesn't mean you need to be wrong (a lot of times).

And it shouldn't mean you go out and start talking complete nonsense, which some people (completely insane to believe too, but it's like that) actually believe.
And if this nonsense can actually get yourself seriously ill or killed, you're in a very bad place as a citizen of the USA at this moment.

The mortality ratings are very bad for the US and Trump himself declared this to be a war, and him being a war president.
Well, to be fair, you need some other leadership I feel. Or just some common sense and a minimum of IQ. That's why this pandemic is the worst that could happen to the USA I feel, because they lack the leader you need for this kind of situation. Especially if your country is on a develloping country level when we talk about health care (and actually, to be fair, on much other things too).

If you compare this with how Angela Merkel and Germany are dealing with this ... night and day. And so are the mortality ratings between the countries.

Trump only proves to me (spoiler alert: nothing new here) he's completely not of the intelligence level of what a president should be (but America cares more that he 'talks like the man in the street so ...').
He also proves he has mental problems, but we also knew that too.

[Eric Millegan]

Do the large numbers of Americans who support Trump and wave their freedom flag bull realise how stupid they look to the rest of the world?

My last word on Trump and I'm done. I'm not even American so I don't care to defend him tooth and nail. Since I am right leaning, I support him more on his policies than on his behaviour.

He is not without criticism for sure. He often shoots from the hip which can land him in hot water with his tweets and with his words. He likes to stroke his ego a bit too much, defends himself by saying what he did right rather than directly address the questions of what he did wrong. He also likes to go off on tangents (part of the ego stroking), I mean how many times do we need to hear about the Chinese travel ban or the amount of ventilators that they've procured? This can get tiresome especially when they're doing 1.5hr briefings daily.

About his statements yesterday, yes they were dumb. My only defense of that was that he got overly excited about the presentation and openly voiced his musings. Was it stupid, inappropriate, egotistic and even disrespectful to the medical community? Probably. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. So once again, Trump responded by saying that he said it sarcastically which I don't buy at all. It's just that his ego is too big for him to admit that he blundered. Everybody is jumping on this incident though almost as if it's evidence of an impeachable offense....whatever. You guys got your gotcha moment, enjoy it and move on.

So there, hope you guys don't think that all Trump supporters are irrational blind followers. Some support him mainly on his stance on various policies.

We need a leader and he is not a leader. You can't throw that all away because you agree with his "policies."

[Eric Millegan]

And what policies are we talking about? Isolationism? Racism? Tax cuts for the rich?

[MotownMadness]

The lead story in tonight's paper: "U.S. officials scramble to warn against bogus cure floated by Trump." "The federal government scrambled Friday to stave off a potential wave of public health emergencies sparked by President Trump’s dangerous suggestion that injecting bleach or other household disinfectants into the body might cure people of the novel coronavirus."

A separate story: "The Food and Drug Administration warned Friday against the use of hydroxychloroquine — the anti-malarial drug that Trump repeatedly has promoted as a “game-changer” miracle cure for covid-19 — because it has been found to cause serious heart rhythm problems."

The man is a serious danger to public health.

a serious danger to a bunch of idiots. Why do we need to worry about idiots who inject them selves with bleach and drink fish bowel cleaner?

Do you guys really live in this CNN world where you know adults who think like 2 year olds and do things like that over a stupid comment?

Like how the hell do some of you make it through the day, lol

[DowJones]

Do the large numbers of Americans who support Trump and wave their freedom flag bull realise how stupid they look to the rest of the world?

My last word on Trump and I'm done. I'm not even American so I don't care to defend him tooth and nail. Since I am right leaning, I support him more on his policies than on his behaviour.

He is not without criticism for sure. He often shoots from the hip which can land him in hot water with his tweets and with his words. He likes to stroke his ego a bit too much, defends himself by saying what he did right rather than directly address the questions of what he did wrong. He also likes to go off on tangents (part of the ego stroking), I mean how many times do we need to hear about the Chinese travel ban or the amount of ventilators that they've procured? This can get tiresome especially when they're doing 1.5hr briefings daily.

About his statements yesterday, yes they were dumb. My only defense of that was that he got overly excited about the presentation and openly voiced his musings. Was it stupid, inappropriate, egotistic and even disrespectful to the medical community? Probably. Does it really matter in the grand scheme of things? Probably not. So once again, Trump responded by saying that he said it sarcastically which I don't buy at all. It's just that his ego is too big for him to admit that he blundered. Everybody is jumping on this incident though almost as if it's evidence of an impeachable offense....whatever. You guys got your gotcha moment, enjoy it and move on.

So there, hope you guys don't think that all Trump supporters are irrational blind followers. Some support him mainly on his stance on various policies.

The mortality ratings are very bad for the US and Trump himself declared this to be a war, and him being a war president.
Well, to be fair, you need some other leadership I feel. Or just some common sense and a minimum of IQ. That's why this pandemic is the worst that could happen to the USA I feel, because they lack the leader you need for this kind of situation. Especially if your country is on a develloping country level when we talk about health care (and actually, to be fair, on much other things too).

If you compare this with how Angela Merkel and Germany are dealing with this ... night and day. And so are the mortality ratings between the countries.

This is a lie. The mortality ratings in the United States are not that bad considering how hardly hit NY was. Here are the countries that are worse than the United States in terms of deaths per million:

-Spain
-Italy
-France
-UK
-Netherlands
-Belgium
-Switzerland
-Ireland
-Sweden

People like you want to believe this is being handled like a 3rd world country in America---it is not. We did a really good job stopping the spread of the virus from Asia, as our extremely low numbers in California and Washington show. NY got crushed by the spread from Italy which we couldn't have known was coming before it was too late. Then the virus was let loose in a very dense city with a ton of public transportation.

[MotownMadness]

And what policies are we talking about? Isolationism? Racism? Tax cuts for the rich?

go vote for Biden then and spend your time figuring out what a AR14 is then. Get used to it cause your party failed and now your stuck with Trump again.

There is no way a man who doesnt even know hes running for president at this point is winning the election so i do feel bad for some of you.

The debates are gonna be must watch tv having Biden with no prompter and trying to figure out if hes running for the Senate

[HollowEarth]

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has tripled the number of coronavirus symptoms it lists on its website.

The federal organization previously listed fever, cough and shortness of breath as symptoms of COVID-19. The CDC has added six additional symptoms as people “have had a wide range of symptoms reported,” it says on its website.

New symptoms for the disease now include “chills, repeated shaking with chills, muscle pain, headache, sore throat and new loss of taste or smell,” the CDC said.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article242260231.html

[Fairview4Life]

Welp.

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