Semi-OT: Coronavirus (COVID-19) Discussion Thread

[nymets1]

Last night's numbers as of 9pm from bing.com/covid

USA- 921,958 confirmed cases, Recoveries- 99,330(+17,538 increase), Deaths- 52,202(+2025 increase)
New York- 271,890 confirmed cases(+8430 increase)
New Jersey- 102,196 confirmed cases(+2207 increase)
Mass- 50,969 confirmed cases(+4946 increase)
California- 39,684 confirmed cases(+675 increase)
Illinois- 39,658 confirmed cases(+2724 increase)
Penn- 38,652 confirmed cases(+1583 increase)
Michigan- 36,641 confirmed cases(+1350 increase)
Florida- 30,533 confirmed cases(+885 increase)
Louisiana- 26,140 confirmed cases(+401 increase)
Connecticut- 23,921 confirmed cases(+821 increase)
Texas- 22,806 confirmed cases, Active cases- 13,057
Georgia- 22,491 confirmed cases(+608 increase)
Maryland- 16,816 confirmed cases(+811 increase)
Ohio- 15,169 confirmed cases(+475 increase)
Indiana- 13,680 confirmed cases(+641 increase)
Colorado- 12,256 confirmed cases(+1378 increase)

Germany- 154,999 confirmed cases, Active cases- 49,311, Recoveries- 99,928(+4111 increase)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

USA- 923,634 confirmed cases(+37,960 increase), Recoveries- 110,400, Deaths- 52,092
New York- 276,711 confirmed cases(+8130 increase)
New Jersey- 102,196 confirmed cases(+2171 increase)
Mass- 50,969 confirmed cases(+4946 increase)
California- 40,812 confirmed cases(+1524 increase)
Penn- 40,149 confirmed cases(+3096 increase)
Illinois- 39,658 confirmed cases(+2724 increase)
Michigan- 36,641 confirmed cases(+1350 increase)
Florida- 30,533 confirmed cases(+885 increase)
Louisana- 26,140 confirmed cases(+401 increase)
Connecticut- 23,921 confirmed cases(+821 increase)
Texas- 23,170 confirmed cases(+777 increase)
Georgia- 22,491 confirmed cases(+608 increase)
Maryland- 16,616 confirmed cases(+879 increase)
Ohio- 15,169 confirmed cases(+475 increase)
Indiana- 13,680 confirmed cases(+641 increase)
Colorado- 12,256 confirmed cases(+994 increase)

1. New Jersey is now over 100,000 confirmed cases
2. New York is approaching 300,000 confirmed cases maybe Monday or Tuesday
3. Louisana is now 14 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day
4. Washington has had a small increase in new confirmed cases over 2 full weeks now
5. Texas now 13 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day, Saturday could be 2 full weeks
6. Georgia only increased by 608 new cases today as they opened up their hair cut/barber shops, beauty salons, etc
7. USA with well over 10,000 recoveries today. Bing reports an increase of 17,538 while worldometers is easily over 20,000 USA recoveries today.
8. Colorado had a big jump in new cases today around the 1000 mark
9. Bing shows Germany with 154,999 confirmed cases, Active cases, 49,311 and Recoveries 99,928 in contrast to
worldometers shows Germany has 154,999 confirmed cases, Active cases- 42,439 and Recoveries 106,8000

Today's numbers as of 10 pm from bing.com/covid

USA- 956,375 confirmed cases(+30,862 increase), Recoveries- 102,340(+2688 increase), Deaths- 53,928(+1694 increase)
New York- 282,143 confirmed cases(+10,553 increase)
New Jersey- 105,523 confirmed cases(+3327 increase)
Mass- 53,348 confirmed cases(+7325 increase)
Illinois- 41,177 confirmed cases(+2119 increase)
California- 41,138 confirmed cases(+1654 increase)
Penn- 40,049 confirmed cases(+1397 increase)
Michigan- 37,203 confirmed cases(+562 increase)
Florida- 30,839 confirmed cases(+306 increase)
Louisana- 26,512 confirmed cases(+372 increase)
Connecticut- 24,582 confirmed cases(+661 increase)
Texas- 23,773 confirmed cases(+137 increase)
Georgia- 23,216 confirmed cases(+725 increase)
Maryland- 17,766 confirmed cases(+1150 increase)
Ohio- 15,587 confirmed cases(+418 increase)
Indiana- 14,395 confirmed cases(+715 increase)
Washington- 13,519 confirmed cases(+566 increase)
Colorado- 12,968 confirmed cases(+713 increase)
Virginia- 12,366 confirmed cases(+772 increase)

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

USA- 960,651 confirmed cases, Recoveries- 118,162, Deaths- 54,256
New York- 287,452 confirmed cases(+10,007 increase)
New jersey- 105,523 confirmed cases(+3327 increase)
Mass- 53,348 confirmed cases(+2379 increase)
California- 42,225 confirmed cases(+1413 increase)
Illinois- 41,177 confirmed cases(+2119 increase)
Penn- 40,149 confirmed cases(+1400 increase)
Michigan- 37,203 confirmed cases(+562 increase)
Florida- 30,839 confirmed cases(+306 increase)
Louisana- 26,512 confirmed cases(+372 increase)
Connecticut- 24,582 confirmed cases(+661 increase)
Texas- 23,773 confirmed cases(+603 increase)
Georgia- 23,216 confirmed cases(+725 increase)
Maryland- 17,766 confirmed cases(+1150 increase)
Ohio- 15,587 confirmed cases(+418 increase)
Indiana- 14,395 confirmed cases(+715 increase)
Washington- 13,176 confirmed cases(+566 increase)
Colorado- 12,968 confirmed cases(+712 increase)
Virginia- 12,366 confirmed cases(+772 increase)

1. New York is approaching 300,000 confirmed cases maybe Sunday or Monday
2. Louisana is now over 14 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day
3. Washington has had a small increase in new confirmed cases over 2 full weeks now
4. Texas now 14 straight days of low increase in new confirmed cases each day
5. Georgia only increased by 725 new cases today as they opened up their hair cut/barber shops, beauty salons, etc
6. My state Florida only had 306 new cases today, That's the 1st time Florida has been that low. The last 6 of 8 days Florida has kept their new cases per day under 1000. Let's go Florida!
7. Michigan only increased by 562 new cases today
8. Maryland had over 1000 new cases today

[michaelm]

What about the anti-malarial drug that Trump promoted for weeks, at least, as a “game-changer” miracle cure for covid-19 — you know, the one that has been found to cause such serious heart problems that the FDA had to warn against it. Was that a media plot also?

Actually yes it was - I think he said a couple things about promising results (which there were) and how if someone was already really sick w/ the virus they should try it - and if course the media blew it out of proportion for weeks like he has forcing every person in America to take the drug w/o an prescription.

People need an Rx to take a drug - it was a complete non-issue. The drug is already approved for treating other conditions and has been used for years. Not sure what the big deal was other than to undermine and manufacture unnecessary outrage.

It's been used for years for malaria, period.


With how little people know about what covid-19 does to the body using caution was the most prudent thing, which is why all the experts said it was stupid thing to do. Now we have new data showing that the virus can potentially cause strokes. One of the side effects of hydroxycholorquine is irregular heartbeat, you take a drug that causes irregular heartbeat in some patients and add it to a virus that can potentially cause strokes, what is the outcome? Do you think it's just coincidence that he stopped pushing the drug so hard in the recent days? Especially after reports that the drug was causing higher percentage of deaths in trials

Also used as an immunosuppressive drug for auto-immune disease with cardiac problems infrequent in that application.

[mtron929]

Trump cultists really out in full force here

Democrats are the laughing stock to the whole world. So much so that it still makes sense to vote republican despite how idiotic trump is at times. The man knows how to manage a great economy that gets everyone working whether people like it or not (again despite him being borderline stupid at times)

Actually, I live outside the US and for the most part, most people outside the US do not know anything about the Republicans and the Democrats (no one really cares to know the difference either). However, most people do think that Trump is a laughing stock. Now, as a Trump supporter, this should not be any factor whatsoever, but at least you should get the facts straight.

[SFour]

Trump cultists really out in full force here

Democrats are the laughing stock to the whole world. So much so that it still makes sense to vote republican despite how idiotic trump is at times. The man knows how to manage a great economy that gets everyone working whether people like it or not (again despite him being borderline stupid at times)

Actually, I live outside the US and for the most part, most people outside the US do not know anything about the Republicans and the Democrats (no one really cares to know the difference either). However, most people do think that Trump is a laughing stock. Now, as a Trump supporter, this should not be any factor whatsoever, but at least you should get the facts straight.

Trump is a laughing stock and constantly has the mainstream media working against him yet he's going to get re-elected for 4 more years.....how does that work. If anything America is a laughing stock for putting Joe Biden up against Trump...that's the best they can do? 300 million people and the best they can do is Joe Biden

[MotownMadness]

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[michaelm]

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I read your reply before you deleted it, and presumed it was to a different post of mine.

I agree with your deleted post, and mentioned Bloomberg because he was a candidate, who was taken down in a televised debate (not his strong point obviously but probably not a refection of his general competence) by Elizabeth Warren who was out of the race not long after, eventually leaving them with Biden as their candidate.

[Wilfried]

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[RussellandFlow]

Looks like you guys want to get this thread locked again. Take the talk about Mr Orange and lying Biden to the political board.

[Wilfried]

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[HotRocks34]

Seems as though there will be no virus task force briefings this weekend. The designated interviewer for the weekend appears to be Dr Birx. She did an interview yesterday and two of them today. Here's her from last night. Still waiting on transcripts/full videos from her interviews today.

Key takeaway I had from the interview (portion starts at 0:20) is that while she feels that New Hospitalizations/ICU usage/Fatalities will be down significantly by Memorial Day (near end of May), she thinks (new) cases will not necessarily fall too much because of expanded testing identifying more asymptomatic people.

Watch on YouTube

[HotRocks34]

De Blasio presser data and comparisons with other time periods (NYC improving)

New hospitalizations ------> 144...............................was 463 on April 12
ICU usage ------------------> 763...............................was 857 on April 12
% positive tests -----------> 29%...............................was 42% on April 18


Lot of progress there. Hopefully NYC can continue that trend.

Just a note -- the "new hospitalization" number seems to get raised over time as more NYC data comes in (in the days that follow). So the final number may not be "144". De Blasio just reads whatever the number was in the initial figures. Maybe the number actually ends up being 400 or something. Not sure. Still, having the "initial" number go down is a good sign, and it matches up with the general trend of new hospitalizations going down. Graph can be seen here, in the middle of the page (default graph is cases; click on hospitalizations to see that graph):

https://www1.nyc.gov/site/doh/covid/covid-19-data.page

[DowJones]

Meet the Press really surprised me today in the way they attacked Dr. Birx after her interview. I think it is really sad when the scientists get attacked because they aren't perceived to be either too inflammatory towards Trump, or not inflammatory enough.

[HotRocks34]

Meet the Press really surprised me today in the way they attacked Dr. Birx after her interview. I think it is really sad when the scientists get attacked because they aren't perceived to be either too inflammatory towards Trump, or not inflammatory enough.

I just got done reading the transcript of Birx on CNN today. Have not seen the Meet The Press one yet. Interesting. Going to try to find that interview/transcript now.

Here's the transcript of Birx on CNN:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/2004/26/sotu.01.html

She's the second person interviewed, after Pelosi. Maybe like a third of the way down her portion starts.

Good discussion by her of antibodies and the virus. Very detailed.

One thing I noticed about Birx from the FOX interview, and in general, is she's pretty unflappable. The FOX guy tried to bait her on China and she wasn't going for it. She seems very unfazed by doing media interviews. I like that.

[13th Man]

Seems as though there will be no virus task force briefings this weekend. The designated interviewer for the weekend appears to be Dr Birx. She did an interview yesterday and two of them today. Here's her from last night. Still waiting on transcripts/full videos from her interviews today.

Key takeaway I had from the interview (portion starts at 0:20) is that while she feels that New Hospitalizations/ICU usage/Fatalities will be down significantly by Memorial Day (near end of May), she thinks (new) cases will not necessarily fall too much because of expanded testing identifying more asymptomatic people.

Watch on YouTube

I'm starting to like her more, she is well-spoken and diplomatic at the same time. I totally agree with her take, if you read between the lines she basically said in a very diplomatic way that:

- China has been lying their asses off from the start
- Trump got overly excited about the presentation and was simply musing out loud, there was no harm intended.
- The media is dishonest and misleading, especially with their headlines. Most people only read the headlines or the first paragraph which translates to Trump suggesting for people to drink bleach and disinfectant as a cure to the virus.

[HotRocks34]

Cuomo press conference info and comparison to last week's numbers (last Sunday)

Total hospitalized now -------------> 12,819...............................16,259 last Sunday
New hospitalizations ----------------> 1,087................................1,359 last Sunday
Fatalities -------------------------------> 367...................................507 last Sunday


More progress. Hopefully things continue in this direction over the upcoming week.

[HotRocks34]

I'm starting to like her more, she is well-spoken and diplomatic at the same time.

Agreed. I like her, she's a real pro. You can tell she's been doing media interviews (as she says in this interview) for a long, long time. Nothing rattles her. I don't think I've ever seen her at a loss for words or 'shaken up' by anything anyone asks her. And she knows her stuff cold.

She's a very competent person.

[HotRocks34]

Birx on Meet The Press. Interview starts at like 5:50 or so:

Watch on YouTube

I like what she said about opening states up bit by bit. For example, here's a map of PA (where I live) broken up by regions:



PA is set to try to re-open, reportedly portions of the upper left and upper middle parts of the map [I live in that zone], on May 8. That might work, but you would not want to try to re-open Philly at the same time, I don't think.

Here is a map of which regions are most hit by the virus in PA. Basically, it's southeast, east and southwest:
https://www.mcall.com/coronavirus/mc-nws-pa-coronavirus-map-20200315-update-20200315-vwvbiaqfave2bnz36tdrypesei-htmlstory.html

[DowJones]

Yeah, Birx is really good at what she does. She also has no intention of getting political in her answers. It is refreshing to see. I think almost all reasonable people can agree that we are lucky to have Birx and Fauci on our side in this fight.

[NBAFan93]

Birx on Meet The Press. Interview starts at like 5:50 or so:

Watch on YouTube

I like what she said about opening states up bit by bit. For example, here's a map of PA (where I live) broken up by regions:



PA is set to try to re-open, reportedly portions of the upper left and upper middle parts of the map [I live in that zone], on May 8. That might work, but you would not want to try to re-open Philly at the same time, I don't think.

Here is a map of which regions are most hit by the virus in PA. Basically, it's southeast, east and southwest:
https://www.mcall.com/coronavirus/mc-nws-pa-coronavirus-map-20200315-update-20200315-vwvbiaqfave2bnz36tdrypesei-htmlstory.html

Yeah Philly and Pittsburgh will probably be last. I’m in one of the purple parts of the South West. You got to worry a little about people from the still closed areas driving to an open area to get services, etc. Hopefully people won’t do that.

[nikster]

At least Fox had the guts to take action on one of their reporters for having a strong opinion, they didn't really need to. The other networks not only tolerate blatant bias and hatred against the President, they actually encourage it.

The supposed and short-lived virus hoax as opposed to the impeachment hoax and Russian collusion narrative which had been going on for 3 years? I don't really watch Hannity though as I find his tone annoying and a bit over the top. I prefer Tucker Carlson who is more balanced, he was the one that pushed the seriousness of the virus onto Trump.

Republicans tune into Fox because that is their only source of trustworthy news aside from some independent channels on YouTube which are being supressed.

so when Obama was president Fox News did not tolerate bias against him? you think irrational bias against Trump is worse than Obama?

And why do studies show Fox News viewers to be worse informed than any other major media consumers? is it because of their commitement to fair and balanced reporting?

The impeachmenet ended with a trial where Republicans refused to call in witnesses....Meanwhile Benghazi lasted just as long and a republican law maker straight up admitted on camera the whole point of those proceedings where to make Hilary look bad

Yes, I do think that the bias against Trump is way worse than it was against Obama. Do you remember the Obama White House briefings? The media gave him a pass on almost everything, one journalist spoke out of line once and they all cheered on Obama as the journalist was ushered out of the room. Today, they're like a pack of hyenas showing zero respect to the POTUS, barraging him with negative questions trying to trap him into gotcha moment.

What studies? The ones from 2012 or 2015? Please..... the media landscape has changed so much since 2016, do you think those so called studies have any relevance today? Why don't they do a new study to see what political leanings the MSM sways in 2020? Let's study the leanings of Fox, NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN. Of course they would not do that.

If you're still putting any stock or value into the failed impeachment proceedings then I don't know what to tell you. Just wait for the Durham report if it ever comes out to see where the real corruption lies all along.

Anyway, I won't engage further on this topic, I only wanted to set some things straight wrt the MSM. If you're going to call Fox news propaganda news, what would you call the rest? Straight and unbiased news? C'mon...

So we have old studies suggesting Fox News voters are misinformed, now we have new studies suggesting there misinformed on COVID, what more do you want lol. why arent republican think tanks putting out studies provign how biased or misinformed liberal MSM viewers are? MSM obviously has its bias, Fox News is just the worst.

Also would you like to link an article or video about your reported incident of Obama kicking out a reporter?