Where do you rank Lebron right now in the GOAT list?

Homer38 · Post #21 » by **Homer38** » Sat May 9, 2020 3:23 pm

Gooner wrote:
Amares wrote:
Gooner wrote:
MJ is top 1. Kareem probably top 5.

Nope, LeBron is top 1 and Kareem is top 3. Jordan is about top 15.

You are just trolling right now.

You need help now.

Whopper_Sr · Post #22 » by **Whopper_Sr** » Sat May 9, 2020 3:59 pm

LeBron claimed the top spot after the 16-17 season for me.

Can’t see a case for anyone besides James for GOAT at this point. I pretty confident with Russell at #2. After that, it gets incredibly challenging. But for now:

3. Kareem/Duncan
5. Jordan/Wilt/Garnett

In an all time draft, LeBron would be my #1 pick. The other 6 players would be the only candidates for #2 pick.

ShotCreator · Post #23 » by **ShotCreator** » Sat May 9, 2020 4:05 pm

Whopper_Sr wrote:LeBron claimed the top spot after the 16-17 season for me.

Can’t see a case for anyone besides James for GOAT at this point. I pretty confident with Russell at #2. After that, it gets incredibly challenging. But for now:

3. Kareem/Duncan
5. Jordan/Wilt/Garnett

In an all time draft, LeBron would be my #1 pick. The other 6 players would be the only candidates for #2 pick.

His 17 postseason run was monumental. Incomprehensible how good he was playing. Especially defensively against Boston and Toronto. It was shocking.

He’s the goat. Flat out, bar none. A 35 year old MVP candidate. Practically perfect durability record. A playoff demon. Actually get better in the postseason. Increases his role/usage/minutes in the PS.

Super versatile. Brilliant leader and brilliant IQ for the game.

On top of this his peak might be GOAT anyway even looking past longevity. Absolutely nutty career and player.

limbo · Post #24 » by **limbo** » Sat May 9, 2020 4:16 pm

ShotCreator wrote:His 17 postseason run was monumental. Incomprehensible how good he was playing. Especially defensively against Boston and Toronto. It was shocking.

He’s the goat. Flat out, bar none. A 35 year old MVP candidate. Practically perfect durability record. A playoff demon. Actually get better in the postseason. Increases his role/usage/minutes in the PS.

Super versatile. Brilliant leader and brilliant IQ for the game.

On top of this his peak might be GOAT anyway even looking past longevity. Absolutely nutty career and player.

I think the '16 Finals before that did it for most people. There's never been any player in NBA history that carried such a big burden in terms of scoring/playmaking/defending, playing 42 mpg over a 7-game series coming back from a 1-3 deficit to defeat one of the greatest teams of all-time and win a title.

Because every non-troll knew that LeBron will always have a prime length/longevity advantage over MJ eventually, but that 2016 Finals just put LeBron's peak in another dimension.

Run DLC · Post #25 » by **Run DLC** » Sat May 9, 2020 5:03 pm

LeBron is top 15-20. DuGOAT is top 3 or should I say the undisputed #1 all-time

Bidofo · Post #26 » by **Bidofo** » Sat May 9, 2020 5:10 pm

Funnily enough, I projected him to pass Jordan after a nice and healthy 2019 prime season...but then he gets injured. Then the 2020 season was off to a good start...and now it may be cancelled.

Top 2.

cecilthesheep · Post #27 » by **cecilthesheep** » Sat May 9, 2020 5:18 pm

Still in second for me behind MJ. The title in '16 put him firmly in the conversation to where I don't think ranking him first is at all unreasonable, and if he wins one more I'm going to have to reevaluate things again.

Paddy Brosso · Post #28 » by **Paddy Brosso** » Sat May 9, 2020 5:29 pm

1st Michael Jordan
2nd Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3rd LeBron James
Imo if LeBron keeps on playing at his level for say, two more seasons, and wins another Ring and/or another MVP, then he will overtake KAJ.

Run DLC · Post #29 » by **Run DLC** » Sat May 9, 2020 5:44 pm

Paddy Brosso wrote:1st Michael Jordan
2nd Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
3rd LeBron James
Imo if LeBron keeps on playing at his level for say, two more seasons, and wins another Ring and/or another MVP, then he will overtake KAJ.

Wrong!

1st Durant

2nd MJ
3rd Kareem

ardee · Post #30 » by **ardee** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:29 pm

He was no. 1 for me after 2017 and since then has only solidified the position.

r0drig0lac · Post #31 » by **r0drig0lac** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:34 pm

1- MJ
2- KAJ
3- Bill
4- Lebron
5- Duncan

mademan · Post #32 » by **mademan** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:34 pm

Galloisdaman · Post #33 » by **Galloisdaman** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:41 pm

Somewhere in the 4-6 range after Jordan, Kareem, Bird, and Duncan.

homecourtloss · Post #34 » by **homecourtloss** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:45 pm

Gooner wrote:It's hard to rank players from different eras, with different positions, roles etc. I would say LeBron is like top 15.

Maybe if they have a post season this year, and he plays well, LeBron can crack your top 12 and
E-balla’s top 10 post season performers.

Johnny Tomala · Post #35 » by **Johnny Tomala** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:46 pm

5th. Jordan, KAJ, Russell, Wilt and then LBJ.

Whopper_Sr · Post #36 » by **Whopper_Sr** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:47 pm

ShotCreator wrote:
Whopper_Sr wrote:LeBron claimed the top spot after the 16-17 season for me.

Can’t see a case for anyone besides James for GOAT at this point. I pretty confident with Russell at #2. After that, it gets incredibly challenging. But for now:

3. Kareem/Duncan
5. Jordan/Wilt/Garnett

In an all time draft, LeBron would be my #1 pick. The other 6 players would be the only candidates for #2 pick.

His 17 postseason run was monumental. Incomprehensible how good he was playing. Especially defensively against Boston and Toronto. It was shocking.

He’s the goat. Flat out, bar none. A 35 year old MVP candidate. Practically perfect durability record. A playoff demon. Actually get better in the postseason. Increases his role/usage/minutes in the PS.

Super versatile. Brilliant leader and brilliant IQ for the game.

On top of this his peak might be GOAT anyway even looking past longevity. Absolutely nutty career and player.

We both take him for granted and somehow underrate just how close to a perfect basketball player he is.

His flaws get dissected to no end while his strengths are often glossed over and reduced to "Oh he is just athletically gifted. This is expected." We see that potential for "perfect basketball player" in him so we naturally have the highest expectations for him. So it's not surprising when dissenters come out in droves with their microscopes because they see that potential too.

When I look at the totality of his value/impact/skills, it becomes clear to me that he's the GOAT and by the time he hangs them up, it won't be particularly close.

Joao Saraiva · Post #37 » by **Joao Saraiva** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:50 pm

Number one in my all time list already.

dodongo · Post #38 » by **dodongo** » Sat May 9, 2020 6:50 pm

1 - MJ
2 - LJ
3 - KAJ

But if LeBron can win another ring or get 40k-10k-10k it will be really close. If he does both (or wins 2+ rings), he is easily #1 for me.

Lou Fan · Post #39 » by **Lou Fan** » Sat May 9, 2020 7:17 pm

I have MJ and KAJ as a clear top 2 with a bunch of guys close behind in Shaq, Duncan, KG, Russ, and Hakeem. Lebron is in that group and Magic would be too if it weren't for him getting HIV. So I can see the case for Lebron as high as 3 but I currently have him at 5.

Joao Saraiva · Post #40 » by **Joao Saraiva** » Sat May 9, 2020 7:26 pm

Gooner wrote:It's hard to rank players from different eras, with different positions, roles etc. I would say LeBron is like top 15.

It's really hard to rank. But it seems like doing a fair rank is even harder when you got such bias against a player.