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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#381 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 10, 2020 2:42 pm

youngcrev wrote:I can't believe I didn't think to include Micic in any Sacramento deals. Vlade'd be a sure to overvalue him.

I'd be somewhat intrigued with Micic on the Sixers as the backup PG. Someone that can methodically run the PnR, pass and shoot would certainly fill a need. Just not sure how well he'd translate, and I'm assuming he'd be a defensive liability.

I don't think they can afford to use their MLE on a question mark though.


It would be neat to see our offense clicking on all cylinders on a random Tuesday night game against the Hornets or something, but I think the novelty would wear off pretty quickly. It would be similar to the Sergio Rodriquez experience. I think there's little to no chance a guy like Micic could play in playoff games. Just too limited defensively. He's a bad athlete to begin with and he's on a surgically repaired knee.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#382 » by youngcrev » Sun May 10, 2020 3:17 pm

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youngcrev wrote:I can't believe I didn't think to include Micic in any Sacramento deals. Vlade'd be a sure to overvalue him.

I'd be somewhat intrigued with Micic on the Sixers as the backup PG. Someone that can methodically run the PnR, pass and shoot would certainly fill a need. Just not sure how well he'd translate, and I'm assuming he'd be a defensive liability.

I don't think they can afford to use their MLE on a question mark though.


It would be neat to see our offense clicking on all cylinders on a random Tuesday night game against the Hornets or something, but I think the novelty would wear off pretty quickly. It would be similar to the Sergio Rodriquez experience. I think there's little to no chance a guy like Micic could play in playoff games. Just too limited defensively. He's a bad athlete to begin with and he's on a surgically repaired knee.


His size gives you some options just to throw him on a bad offensive player, unlike Sergio. He'd just have to be good enough offensively to justify it.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#383 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 10, 2020 3:31 pm

Yeah, but again, you're asking your players to take a beating fighting through screens just so a sieve can be protected when he's targeted. If you can't hold your own defensively and aren't an offensive star, you really don't have any business being on a team with aspirations of getting to the conference Finals.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#384 » by youngcrev » Sun May 10, 2020 4:01 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Yeah, but again, you're asking your players to take a beating fighting through screens just so a sieve can be protected when he's targeted. If you can't hold your own defensively and aren't an offensive star, you really don't have any business being on a team with aspirations of getting to the conference Finals.


I generally agree. I do think the Sixers are in a somewhat unique position of being able to hide a singular weak link defensively because their stars are both 2-way guys, but again, he'd have to be good enough offensively to justify it (and not so bad defensively that guys like Marcus Smart are dominating him).

On the flip side, we're also talking about a fairly low salary bench guy, so your risk level is minimal. I'd like to think there are better options available to them for the money, but who knows? We haven't exactly been a big destination for value free agents. A Reggie Jackson, Augustine or mostly cooked Jeff Teague would probably all be better options, just don't know that they'd be interested. There's also a bunch of proven guys at other positions that I'd be interested in, but again, we don't have much to offer and the interest has to be a 2-way street. We had a similar amount to offer last year and ended up spending it on retaining Mike Scott.

As an aside, I thought you were a Korkmaz guy? He's certainly a non-offensive star with a giant target on his back defensively.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#385 » by youngcrev » Sun May 10, 2020 4:42 pm

BTW, I agree with the assessment that the most likely scenario of a Micic signing would be getting a fun, but ultimately unusable player once you get deep into the playoffs.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#386 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 10, 2020 4:44 pm

I just think I'd rather capitalize on whatever intrigue the unknown Micic has to other teams in trade value (assuming they even view him favorably). I don't think he projects any more than a 9th-12th man, regular season player for us.

Nah, I view Korkmaz as a fun player to root for throughout the doldrums of a boring regular season. I would never want him on the court in a playoff series lol.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#387 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 10, 2020 6:26 pm

Another thing with Korkmaz is his looming extension. He will likely get offers from other teams we aren’t willing to match. I think it’d be wise to include him in trade offers thus summer.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#388 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 10, 2020 6:27 pm

youngcrev wrote:I can't believe I didn't think to include Micic in any Sacramento deals. Vlade'd be a sure to overvalue him.

I'd be somewhat intrigued with Micic on the Sixers as the backup PG. Someone that can methodically run the PnR, pass and shoot would certainly fill a need. Just not sure how well he'd translate, and I'm assuming he'd be a defensive liability.

I don't think they can afford to use their MLE on a question mark though.


Harris + Korkmaz + Micic for Hield + Bjelica. Who says no?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#389 » by youngcrev » Sun May 10, 2020 6:43 pm

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youngcrev wrote:I can't believe I didn't think to include Micic in any Sacramento deals. Vlade'd be a sure to overvalue him.

I'd be somewhat intrigued with Micic on the Sixers as the backup PG. Someone that can methodically run the PnR, pass and shoot would certainly fill a need. Just not sure how well he'd translate, and I'm assuming he'd be a defensive liability.

I don't think they can afford to use their MLE on a question mark though.


Harris + Korkmaz + Micic for Hield + Bjelica. Who says no?


Probably them. Harris contract is a tough pill to swallow with Bagley+Fox+Bogdanovic due money soon. And I don't think he's a good compliment to Bagley.

I think Horford is a better fit there. Costs less, fits better, and they tried to sign him when we did.
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Post#390 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 10, 2020 6:52 pm

After we offload Tobias Harris, maybe we can turn around and flip Hield for someone that can help us in the playoffs. Do you think Denver would give up Gary Harris?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#391 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 10, 2020 6:57 pm

youngcrev wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
youngcrev wrote:I can't believe I didn't think to include Micic in any Sacramento deals. Vlade'd be a sure to overvalue him.

I'd be somewhat intrigued with Micic on the Sixers as the backup PG. Someone that can methodically run the PnR, pass and shoot would certainly fill a need. Just not sure how well he'd translate, and I'm assuming he'd be a defensive liability.

I don't think they can afford to use their MLE on a question mark though.


Harris + Korkmaz + Micic for Hield + Bjelica. Who says no?


Probably them. Harris contract is a tough pill to swallow with Bagley+Fox+Bogdanovic due money soon. And I don't think he's a good compliment to Bagley.

I think Horford is a better fit there. Costs less, fits better, and they tried to sign him when we did.


It’d be interesting to know who they’d value more between Harris and Horford. Not only were they pursuing Horford last summer, but also Harris.

I’d be willing to take on Barnes instead of Bjelica if we had to. Both Barnes and Hield have de-escalating contracts which is a plus.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#392 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 10, 2020 7:00 pm

Kobblehead wrote:After we offload Tobias Harris, maybe we can turn around and flip Hield for someone that can help us in the playoffs. Do you think Denver would give up Gary Harris?


So, if I understand correctly, you’re a huge fan of Buddy Hield?
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Post#393 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 10, 2020 7:08 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:So, if I understand correctly, you’re a huge fan of Buddy Hield?

I'm just wondering why you're such a proponent for players on losing teams that don't defend or pass lol. You got a Dwayne Bacon proposal up your sleeve?
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#394 » by ankle420breaker » Sun May 10, 2020 7:35 pm

Kobblehead wrote:After we offload Tobias Harris, maybe we can turn around and flip Hield for someone that can help us in the playoffs. Do you think Denver would give up Gary Harris?
I really like Gary Harris, but I think we could sweeten it and go bigger in that scenario. Hield, late first, Micic, Smith could get a Holiday deal done.

Moot point, I just can't see Elton Brand crafting that up.

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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#395 » by Arsenal » Sun May 10, 2020 7:59 pm

Time to crank up the salary dump trades with the news of the cap going DOWN next year due to lost revenue because of coronavirus.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#396 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun May 10, 2020 8:04 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:So, if I understand correctly, you’re a huge fan of Buddy Hield?

I'm just wondering why you're such a proponent for players on losing teams that don't defend or pass lol. You got a Dwayne Bacon proposal up your sleeve?


You could use the same argument against Zach LaVine. Plus, on a team full of players who can pass and defend, we can afford someone who's an elite shooter with other deficiencies.

I'm not saying build around Hield, I'm saying he's a better supplement to our core than Tobias is.

PS, have you watched Gary Harris over the last two years? Dude has been dead weight on a Nuggets team trying to get over the hump. His underwhelming play is a big reason they haven't been able to take the next step.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#397 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 10, 2020 8:23 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:So, if I understand correctly, you’re a huge fan of Buddy Hield?

I'm just wondering why you're such a proponent for players on losing teams that don't defend or pass lol. You got a Dwayne Bacon proposal up your sleeve?


You could use the same argument against Zach LaVine. Plus, on a team full of players who can pass and defend, we can afford someone who's an elite shooter with other deficiencies.

I'm not saying build around Hield, I'm saying he's a better supplement to our core than Tobias is.


I don't see the parallel to Zach Lavine. Lavine has been a ball mover his entire career and actually can create shots. Buddy is a ball stopper that can't create his own shots. The only similarity between them is that both are looked at as deficient defensive players. Don't you think it makes more sense to make a defensive concession for someone that passes and creates his own offense in the halfcourt as opposed to a ball stopper that needs a ton of shots created for him in order for him to be effective?

I'm unsure if Buddy would be a more useful postseason player for us than Tobias. They're both defensive liabilities that don't pass, but Tobias at least has the ability put the ball on the floor and iso (when Brett lets him) when his shot isn't falling. There's no dimensions to Buddy's game and he's too easy to defend in a playoff setting when opposing defenders are active and closeout on shooters.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#398 » by Kobblehead » Sun May 10, 2020 8:33 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:PS, have you watched Gary Harris over the last two years? Dude has been dead weight on a Nuggets team trying to get over the hump. His underwhelming play is a big reason they haven't been able to take the next step.


I know he's missed a lot of time with injuries, but why do you think he's been dead weight? His inflated scoring was never going to remain what it was. He never was a creator, even dating back to his Michigan State days. Pure 3&D guard.
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Re: Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Post Season 

Post#399 » by 76ciology » Mon May 11, 2020 6:44 am

Micic.

it’s likely that he’s not that good or not that valuable. But definitely we hope it’s the opposite.
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Post#400 » by 76ciology » Mon May 11, 2020 6:48 am

Arsenal wrote:Time to crank up the salary dump trades with the news of the cap going DOWN next year due to lost revenue because of coronavirus.


Easy..

Step 1: make a “Sixers fight for coronavirus foundation”
Step 2: ask Al’s entourage to be the guys in charge for that foundation. This way you can charge ridiculous expenditures and label it as “professional fees”
Step 3: funnel Al’s salary through that foundation
Step 4: Ask Al to announce that he’s going to let go his salary for one NBA season

This is the kind of things you learn from watching Ozark
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