Raps 2020 Picks (Prospect Watch, Update: Vecenie Mock Released)

[HeadtopChunes]

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Would recommend reading this when it comes to evaluating Bigs for us. (Or anything else he’s written, is pretty good)

Cool read!

Gasol is top notch at all of these except for switching. His blitzing especially is super impressive considering his foot speed. His anticipation and timing is amazing.

I find it so interesting how effective the Bucks have been with drop coverage. You'd think in this day and age, where everybody can shoot so well, it'd cause problems for the defence constantly dropping your big man so deep.

It's kind of cool because OG actually sort of fits the bill as a Draymond Green type of switch all big. OG defends the wing mostly now but I could totally see a future where the Raptors deploy him on the defensive end in a Draymond Green role during crunch time.

Yeah the value of Marc is pretty amazing and thats why attempting to replace him will be a tough task for the future. Even with Serge we just usually drop or ice.

Definitely agree about OG, his defensive value is pretty amazing as his sheer versatility lets him play in any scheme, especially with the growth he’s showing as a rim protector. He just needs to get more consistent and I’m fairly confident he ends up one of the best defenders in the league

[PhilBlackson]

If I'm Masai, I'm gonna trying to figure out how to trade up for Jaden McDaniels.

I obviously got love for OG but he simply doesn't have the talent base JM appears to have. Some might flame but I'd consider (didn't say absolutely would) even flipping OG to be able to move up and get him. The kid just looks to have some of the tools to be an excellent scoring wing which is needed to compliment Siakam. Yes OG's defense would be missed but overall I think a more talented secondary scorer is a greater need for the team. McDaniels looks like with some development which we excel at, could become a go to scorer in time.

OG is proven to be able to be a plus defender in the league already and is solid offensively. He's #2 or 3 most valuable on the team behind Pascal and FVV.

Scoring is not a weakness of this team. They need a big as Gasol is getting older.

Look at GS getting Russell but as he is blocked got flipped for under-achieving Andrew Wiggins. Sure if a great guard or wing like McDaniels drops, take him but if not, go big late in the 1st.

Masai has never traded up. It's crap shoot for most outside the lottery so why give up multiple assets for a another lottery ticket? Is it like trading 2 Lotto 649 tickets for 1 Lottomax ticket.

Actually we do need scoring, in particular a player that can create his own **** come Playoff time as evidenced by this team's many clamming up failures until Kawhi arrived.

I'm certainly not implying that Jaden comes to carry this team as a rookie lmao.... I'm thinking future because in reality any kid we draft is not replacing anyone in their first year or so. But have to think long term.

Again reality is aside from occasional shots from Fred, this team has a track record of clamming up and much of that is only having a single player that can create his own sho t. I can't even imagine the humiliating azz kicking we would have taken from Philly if Kawhi n his ability to create for himself wasn't on the squad because Pascal was pretty forgettable in both the PHI and MIL.

Not to mention long term a defensive big is MUCH cheaper and more available than great scoring wing if we're under the assumption either hypothetical prospects were to pan out.

[Jim Todd Jr.]

But are we gonna get a legit scoring wing at our pick? Im gonna guess no, but who knows..

[Psubs]

If I'm Masai, I'm gonna trying to figure out how to trade up for Jaden McDaniels.

I obviously got love for OG but he simply doesn't have the talent base JM appears to have. Some might flame but I'd consider (didn't say absolutely would) even flipping OG to be able to move up and get him. The kid just looks to have some of the tools to be an excellent scoring wing which is needed to compliment Siakam. Yes OG's defense would be missed but overall I think a more talented secondary scorer is a greater need for the team. McDaniels looks like with some development which we excel at, could become a go to scorer in time.

OG is proven to be able to be a plus defender in the league already and is solid offensively. He's #2 or 3 most valuable on the team behind Pascal and FVV.

Scoring is not a weakness of this team. They need a big as Gasol is getting older.

Look at GS getting Russell but as he is blocked got flipped for under-achieving Andrew Wiggins. Sure if a great guard or wing like McDaniels drops, take him but if not, go big late in the 1st.

Masai has never traded up. It's crap shoot for most outside the lottery so why give up multiple assets for a another lottery ticket? Is it like trading 2 Lotto 649 tickets for 1 Lottomax ticket.

Actually we do need scoring, in particular a player that can create his own **** come Playoff time as evidenced by this team's many clamming up failures until Kawhi arrived.

I'm certainly not implying that Jaden comes to carry this team as a rookie lmao.... I'm thinking future because in reality any kid we draft is not replacing anyone in their first year or so. But have to think long term.

Again reality is aside from occasional shots from Fred, this team has a track record of clamming up and much of that is only having a single player that can create his own sho t. I can't even imagine the humiliating azz kicking we would have taken from Philly if Kawhi n his ability to create for himself wasn't on the squad because Pascal was pretty forgettable in both the PHI and MIL.

Not to mention long term a defensive big is MUCH cheaper and more available than great scoring wing if we're under the assumption either hypothetical prospects were to pan out.

Mikal Bridges and Jonathan Isaac are doing okay but not translating into wins yet.

Only trade OG for Kawhi. May not trade OG for Paul George, due to age (30) and though he's offensively superior his defense is no longer that great.

Would trade OG for an upgrade to Giannis, Kawhi, Lebron, Giannis, Zion or Gobert. In other deals, the amount added to make the deals happen would not make them desirable.

[Psubs]

But are we gonna get a legit scoring wing at our pick? Im gonna guess no, but who knows..

Can hope that Saddiq Bey drops.

Maybe like the botched Brooks trade with Memphis, a team will draft the wrong Bey.

[super_balls]

What's everyone's draft board looking like at 28?

For me:

1. Paul Reed

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2. Grant Riller

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3. Reggie Perry

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4. Jahmi'us Ramsey

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SSAL's would be Jaden, Stewart, Elleby.

Their videos should be banned unless a new one has been created.

[Dalek]

What's everyone's draft board looking like at 28?

For me:

1. Paul Reed

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2. Grant Riller

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3. Reggie Perry

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4. Jahmi'us Ramsey

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That looks good for your top 2. I think Reed has shown to be a very good, almost essential defender for Depaul. If Reed is 1A, my choice for 1B would be Precious Achiuwa. Looking at their numbers they are nearly identical, with Precious doing it in his freshman year. Reed is playing tougher competition, but still they are pretty similar players.

Riller is basically going to be the scorer that will help the bench, as it allows Davis to move to mroe of a catch and shoot guy, which is where he will excel at.

Not sure about Reggie Perry. Is he the guy that will be available at 58. Not sure if I am in love with him as a prospect to take him this high.

Ramsey had a pretty great freshman year, but I think he would struggle to get minutes in Toronto. Terrence Davis and Norman Powell are not likely to supplanted anytime soon, and Ramsey is not a playmaker. If you go guard, you probably need a really mature guy who will be willing to sit in the G-League for a year. Riller looks like the coachable type.

The guy I get stuck on, is Ayo Dosunmu. Obviously, he needs development time, but I like his drive and finish ability, his passing is also pretty developed. Plus, he projects a plus defender. I don't know if I take Dosunmu at 28, but if Toronto trades out of the first, he would be a good get in the 40s.

[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

If I'm Masai, I'm gonna trying to figure out how to trade up for Jaden McDaniels.

I obviously got love for OG but he simply doesn't have the talent base JM appears to have. Some might flame but I'd consider (didn't say absolutely would) even flipping OG to be able to move up and get him. The kid just looks to have some of the tools to be an excellent scoring wing which is needed to compliment Siakam. Yes OG's defense would be missed but overall I think a more talented secondary scorer is a greater need for the team. McDaniels looks like with some development which we excel at, could become a go to scorer in time.

Jaden is a certified top 5 talent in this draft. His massive potential could make him the best player coming out of this draft looking back in 5 years. His skill set is perfect for the NBA's wide open game. He can do it all on offense from initiating, creating, facilitating and dominating. His man to man defense needs coaching up because he played in a 2-3 zone in college but he has excellent length, is an above average shot blocker and a very good rebounder who is only going to get better as his body fills out. Also, Jaden is a gym rat who doesn't kick it in the clubs more focused on getting better than making it rain on strippers. If Masai is to trade up in this draft this is the guy to do it for.

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[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

What's everyone's draft board looking like at 28?

For me:

1.

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Paul Reed

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2. Grant Riller

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3. Reggie Perry

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4. Jahmi'us Ramsey

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Depending on what Toronto wants (G, Wing, Post, BPA) from this draft in the first round and going by what many mock drafts/big boards have projected to be available at #28 the four players in order would be:

G/F CJ Elleby (Washington State)

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In my mind CJ Elleby (6'6 barefoot/6'7 in shoes) is the best prospect for Toronto if he is still on the board at #28. He is a SG/SF that plays both ends of the court at a high level. He has NBA range on his shot, can create for himself & others, can score off the bounce or in catch 'n shoot situations is a very good passer, has solid handles, has a high basketblall IQ plus he's a gym rat not a club rat. Also, CJ plays defense at a high level as he led the Pac-12 in totals steals and steals per game, is a good rebounder, can guard 1-4 effectively as well as being highly active with his hands/feet/eyes/ on the defensive end. He has that big dog in his DNA.

C/F Isaiah Stewart (Washington)

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Has a monster frame with great strength and powerful leaping ability. A defensive menace who controls the paint with his shot blocking, space-clearing and rebounding ability. An above the rim player who excels at scoring in close to the basket
Isn't afraid to do the dirty work. Dangerous on the offensive glass. Reminds me a lot of rebound magnet Michael Cage with his body.

F Tyler Bey (Colorado)

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Bey is a plus athlete with a great frame for an NBA wing. He plays with power and can even slide over and fill the power forward position. His defense and transition game will be his calling card at the next level. A great rebounder and defender who needs to extend the range on his jumper. From what I have seen of his game he competes hard on both ends of the court.

G Malachi Flynn (San Diego State)

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In mind he is another sleeper prospect ala CJ Elleby in this draft. He excels in pick 'n roll situations. Is very crafty with the ball off the dribble or the pass. Has deep 3 point range on his shot. Effective mid-range and floater game. Not afraid of the moment- clutch. Has a high basketball IQ. His compete level is very high on both ends of the court. Is a very pesky defender. Has very active hands, feet and eyes. Isn't afraid to guard bigger players. Has a lot of dog in his game. His body build needs to get stronger but he is another dedicated prospect that is a gym rat and not a club rat who will put in the work needed to maximize his talents.

[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

But are we gonna get a legit scoring wing at our pick? Im gonna guess no, but who knows..

CJ Elleby could be that legit scoring wing you are looking for prospect...time will tell.

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[Indeed]

If I'm Masai, I'm gonna trying to figure out how to trade up for Jaden McDaniels.

I obviously got love for OG but he simply doesn't have the talent base JM appears to have. Some might flame but I'd consider (didn't say absolutely would) even flipping OG to be able to move up and get him. The kid just looks to have some of the tools to be an excellent scoring wing which is needed to compliment Siakam. Yes OG's defense would be missed but overall I think a more talented secondary scorer is a greater need for the team. McDaniels looks like with some development which we excel at, could become a go to scorer in time.

OG is proven to be able to be a plus defender in the league already and is solid offensively. He's #2 or 3 most valuable on the team behind Pascal and FVV.

Scoring is not a weakness of this team. They need a big as Gasol is getting older.

Look at GS getting Russell but as he is blocked got flipped for under-achieving Andrew Wiggins. Sure if a great guard or wing like McDaniels drops, take him but if not, go big late in the 1st.

Masai has never traded up. It's crap shoot for most outside the lottery so why give up multiple assets for a another lottery ticket? Is it like trading 2 Lotto 649 tickets for 1 Lottomax ticket.

Actually we do need scoring, in particular a player that can create his own **** come Playoff time as evidenced by this team's many clamming up failures until Kawhi arrived.

I'm certainly not implying that Jaden comes to carry this team as a rookie lmao.... I'm thinking future because in reality any kid we draft is not replacing anyone in their first year or so. But have to think long term.

Again reality is aside from occasional shots from Fred, this team has a track record of clamming up and much of that is only having a single player that can create his own sho t. I can't even imagine the humiliating azz kicking we would have taken from Philly if Kawhi n his ability to create for himself wasn't on the squad because Pascal was pretty forgettable in both the PHI and MIL.

Not to mention long term a defensive big is MUCH cheaper and more available than great scoring wing if we're under the assumption either hypothetical prospects were to pan out.

I agree that we need scoring, but OG may have his impact.
I don't see we are trading up, particularly giving up similar talent. Both OG and McDaniels may have similar ceiling (I don't see McDaniels being better with an average 6'11 wingspan when OG has 7'2). If you look down the draft, there are interesting prospect. For example Derrick Alston (2 years older) who has Otto Porter frame, while excels in passing and playmaking (McDaniels runs into 2 defenders, so I am unsure his vision that requires us to trade up). Chris Smith is another prospect (just doesn't like him having his brother, JR Smith, mentality).

[Indeed]

But are we gonna get a legit scoring wing at our pick? Im gonna guess no, but who knows..

CJ Elleby could be that legit scoring wing you are looking for prospect...time will tell.

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I don't think we need a scoring wing, I think we need a playmaker at the wing.
We have Powell who is a scoring wing already, and we are not starting him over VanVleet or OG for a reason, because we need playmaker rather.

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G Malachi Flynn (San Diego State)

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In mind he is another sleeper prospect ala CJ Elleby in this draft. He excels in pick 'n roll situations. Is very crafty with the ball off the dribble or the pass. Has deep 3 point range on his shot. Effective mid-range and floater game. Not afraid of the moment- clutch. Has a high basketball IQ. His compete level is very high on both ends of the court. Is a very pesky defender. Has very active hands, feet and eyes. Isn't afraid to guard bigger players. Has a lot of dog in his game. His body build needs to get stronger but he is another dedicated prospect that is a gym rat and not a club rat who will put in the work needed to maximize his talents.

Surprise he's a transfer from Washington State.

Flynn did lead his team to actual wins.

Raptors need more rebounding.

[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

But are we gonna get a legit scoring wing at our pick? Im gonna guess no, but who knows..

CJ Elleby could be that legit scoring wing you are looking for prospect...time will tell.

Spoiler:

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I don't think we need a scoring wing, I think we need a playmaker at the wing.
I have Powell who is a scoring wing already, and we are not starting him over VanVleet or OG for a reason, because we need playmaker rather.

CJ Elleby has that talent in his skill set as well. He is an above average passer with the ability to handle the ball as a point forward. He has a high basketball IQ able to recognize defensive schemes on the move and in the halfcourt. He is able to quickly move the ball up the court in transition, in the paint to cutters/post and around the perimeter with his passing. Plus, CJ is a legit 6'6 barefoot. Powell is 6'3 barefoot. The highlight video below showcases some of CJ's passing, ball handling abilities in case you want to view them for yourself.

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CJ Elleby could be that legit scoring wing you are looking for prospect...time will tell.

Spoiler:

Watch on YouTube

I don't think we need a scoring wing, I think we need a playmaker at the wing.
I have Powell who is a scoring wing already, and we are not starting him over VanVleet or OG for a reason, because we need playmaker rather.

CJ Elleby has that talent in his skill set as well. He is an above average passer with the ability to handle the ball as a point forward. He has a high basketball IQ able to recognize defensive schemes on the move and in the halfcourt. He is able to quickly move the ball up the court in transition, in the paint to cutters/post and around the perimeter with his passing. Plus, CJ is a legit 6'6 barefoot. Powell is 6'3 barefoot. The highlight video below showcases some of CJ's passing, ball handling abilities in case you want to view them for yourself.

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Proof of height measurement. Show 6'6 barefoot or any listing of him being 6'7 with shoes.

If you can't you are not allowed to post about any player from the state of Washington or plays for a team that plays in the Pac 12. If you can I will stop commenting this spamming.

I mean this guy joined in April 21 of this year and is likely bored from Covid isolation and is spamming like that famous Lebron hater Henry Rivera, who was arrested for assault.

[Mark_83]

The only scoring wing worth trading up for is Devin Vassell. The other wings with the exception of McDaniels (who isnt worth trading up for) are more spot up shooters than guys who can create their own shots.

Not a good idea to get hung up on scoring wings. Most of the guys likely to be available near our pick are more 3 + D types.

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The only scoring wing worth trading up for is Devin Vassell. The other wings with the exception of McDaniels (who isnt worth trading up for) are more spot up shooters than guys who can create their own shots.

Not a good idea to get hung up on scoring wings. Most of the guys likely to be available near our pick are more 3 + D types.

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Would people trade Powell, #28 and #58 for Vassell? Would Orlando do it? Hello Jeff Weltman!

PG Lowry - FVV - McCaw
SG FVV - TD - Thomas
SF OG - Vassell - McCaw
PF Siakam - OG - Boucher
C Gasol - Ibaka - Hernandez/Konate

[HeadtopChunes]

Trade up could be advantageous if it’s cheap.

It depends on the price though, maybe protected 2022 pick+28.

Wouldn’t give up too much more than that , probably not worth it.

Not a fan of trading up for Vasell, i like the guy but he’s a little redundant with OG and I don’t think it be great to play them together (too little dribbling)

[Sir-Swish-A-Lot]

Raptors UDFA Prospect SG Aaron Henry (Michigan State)

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