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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1541 » by HEZI » Wed May 20, 2020 4:59 am

robillionaire wrote:I'm not sure why we never mention okoro, tons of mock drafts have him top 10, knicks could throw us all a curve


I like him even though he's kinda raw offensively but if they still see RJ as a guard then I guess I can see Okoro being considered to help on the wings.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1542 » by robillionaire » Wed May 20, 2020 5:07 am

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robillionaire wrote:I'm not sure why we never mention okoro, tons of mock drafts have him top 10, knicks could throw us all a curve


I like him even though he's kinda raw offensively but if they still see RJ as a guard then I guess I can see Okoro being considered to help on the wings.


The problem would be shooting obviously, would have to hope his 3 comes around but If it does he could be a really good 2 way player his explosiveness and defense are fun to watch
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

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robillionaire wrote:I'm not sure why we never mention okoro, tons of mock drafts have him top 10, knicks could throw us all a curve


I like him even though he's kinda raw offensively but if they still see RJ as a guard then I guess I can see Okoro being considered to help on the wings.


The problem would be shooting obviously, would have to hope his 3 comes around but If it does he could be a really good 2 way player his explosiveness and defense are fun to watch


Yeah man that's the thing with him, he's got ways to go offensively. He might be one of the guys that we see drop similar to how Nassir Little fell last year. Then again, all it takes is one team to find him intriguing enough. Kinda tough to predict what lotto team might take him though so I won't be shocked if he fell.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1544 » by bleedblue3303 » Wed May 20, 2020 9:12 am

Our second round pick wouldn't hate a pick of Derrick Alston Jr. avg. 21 pts a game. 6'9" guard. This kid can shoot!!
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1545 » by Thepaintismine » Wed May 20, 2020 10:11 am

Any word on when the Lotto will be? If it will be?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1546 » by Tornelyus » Wed May 20, 2020 12:18 pm

bleedblue3303 wrote:Our second round pick wouldn't hate a pick of Derrick Alston Jr. avg. 21 pts a game. 6'9" guard. This kid can shoot!!


Is he related with Westchester Knicks coach Derrick Alston? Size and range look interesting.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1547 » by Zenzibar » Wed May 20, 2020 1:03 pm

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One of my favorites in the draft. Honestly not sure why he isn’t getting more love. His offensive improvement from freshman year to sophomore year was eye opening.

Would sprint to the podium to select him at 38 if he’s still there.


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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1548 » by Zenzibar » Wed May 20, 2020 1:08 pm

bleedblue3303 wrote:Our second round pick wouldn't hate a pick of Derrick Alston Jr. avg. 21 pts a game. 6'9" guard. This kid can shoot!!



How is this kid not in the top 15? His skills are :eek2:
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1549 » by knickstape21 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:11 pm

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One of my favorites in the draft. Honestly not sure why he isn’t getting more love. His offensive improvement from freshman year to sophomore year was eye opening.

Would sprint to the podium to select him at 38 if he’s still there.


Reminds of a young Rodman on many levels.

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Hah I’m not sure about Rodman. Would probably put him in the Chris Boucher floor/Chris Bosh ceiling category.

Anyone who watches Virginia first of all knows they are elite defensive team and he anchors that. They also know that UVA plays this slow, methodical, offensive style and Diakite doesn’t see a lot of touches.

Great fit for the Knicks and great fit in today’s NBA. Sky is the limit if he keeps rapidly developing.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1550 » by god shammgod » Wed May 20, 2020 1:25 pm

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robillionaire wrote:I'm not sure why we never mention okoro, tons of mock drafts have him top 10, knicks could throw us all a curve


I like him even though he's kinda raw offensively but if they still see RJ as a guard then I guess I can see Okoro being considered to help on the wings.


The problem would be shooting obviously, would have to hope his 3 comes around but If it does he could be a really good 2 way player his explosiveness and defense are fun to watch


i like him. he's athletic enough to have big upside but his skill level is kinda low right now. it's gonna take him a couple years offensively, if he gets there. he's someone i would pick when all my other choices are gone.

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1551 » by robillionaire » Wed May 20, 2020 1:35 pm

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robillionaire wrote:
HEZI wrote:
I like him even though he's kinda raw offensively but if they still see RJ as a guard then I guess I can see Okoro being considered to help on the wings.


The problem would be shooting obviously, would have to hope his 3 comes around but If it does he could be a really good 2 way player his explosiveness and defense are fun to watch


i like him. he's athletic enough to have big upside but his skill level is kinda low right now. it's gonna take him a couple years offensively, if he gets there. he's someone i would pick when all my other choices are gone.

1-lamelo/edwards
2-cole/hayes
3-okoro/deni


I have lamelo as my top pick and edwards as someone I'd take in the 2-4 scenario with lamelo off the board, but in the 6-10 range I'm not exactly in love with the other PG prospects and I wouldn't care if they liked a player like okoro or someone else more than the other PGs and decided to go BPA
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1552 » by god shammgod » Wed May 20, 2020 1:42 pm

robillionaire wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
The problem would be shooting obviously, would have to hope his 3 comes around but If it does he could be a really good 2 way player his explosiveness and defense are fun to watch


i like him. he's athletic enough to have big upside but his skill level is kinda low right now. it's gonna take him a couple years offensively, if he gets there. he's someone i would pick when all my other choices are gone.

1-lamelo/edwards
2-cole/hayes
3-okoro/deni


I have lamelo as my top pick and edwards as someone I'd take in the 2-4 scenario with lamelo off the board, but in the 6-10 range I'm not exactly in love with the other PG prospects and I wouldn't care if they liked a player like okoro or someone else more than the other PGs and decided to go BPA


for me, it depends. i could live with the names i mentioned. but take obi, okongwu or wiseman and i'll throw something at my tv.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1553 » by mpharris36 » Wed May 20, 2020 1:45 pm

god shammgod wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
i like him. he's athletic enough to have big upside but his skill level is kinda low right now. it's gonna take him a couple years offensively, if he gets there. he's someone i would pick when all my other choices are gone.

1-lamelo/edwards
2-cole/hayes
3-okoro/deni


I have lamelo as my top pick and edwards as someone I'd take in the 2-4 scenario with lamelo off the board, but in the 6-10 range I'm not exactly in love with the other PG prospects and I wouldn't care if they liked a player like okoro or someone else more than the other PGs and decided to go BPA


for me, it depends. i could live with the names i mentioned. but take obi, okongwu or wiseman and i'll throw something at my tv.


I like okongwu but understand that sentiment
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1554 » by robillionaire » Wed May 20, 2020 1:55 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
I have lamelo as my top pick and edwards as someone I'd take in the 2-4 scenario with lamelo off the board, but in the 6-10 range I'm not exactly in love with the other PG prospects and I wouldn't care if they liked a player like okoro or someone else more than the other PGs and decided to go BPA


for me, it depends. i could live with the names i mentioned. but take obi, okongwu or wiseman and i'll throw something at my tv.


I like okongwu but understand that sentiment


eh, I mean if we're picking 8-10 I think we know the odds of getting a good player, we may as well just see what perrin and the new brain trust can do. If they like one of those guys I'm willing to give it a shot.
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Post#1555 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed May 20, 2020 2:11 pm

Okoro wouldn't be my pick but would be good with it. He has some potential.

Hope we don't pick Deni though. Just don't see a high ceiling and he will probably take some time.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1556 » by mpharris36 » Wed May 20, 2020 2:21 pm

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for me, it depends. i could live with the names i mentioned. but take obi, okongwu or wiseman and i'll throw something at my tv.


I like okongwu but understand that sentiment


eh, I mean if we're picking 8-10 I think we know the odds of getting a good player, we may as well just see what perrin and the new brain trust can do. If they like one of those guys I'm willing to give it a shot.


depending on how far down we fall at some point you are correct you simply can't force a pick if better talent is on the board.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1557 » by moocow007 » Wed May 20, 2020 2:29 pm

A reasonable expectation for someone drafted in the late lottery is a solid rotational player and potential starter. High expectation is a starter with top 10 realization for his position capabilities. So that is the reasonable floor to ceiling for late lottery picks.

If the Knicks get screwed (you know it's going to happen right lol :cry: ) and end up picking say 10th overall? You're more so looking at drafting someone that can maybe be a starter or early guy off the bench. So I don't know that the Knicks necessarily have depth at any position that would warrant precluding them taking BPA.

Just want to get that out there since folks may be overestimating what a late lottery pick is expected to be.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1558 » by Deeeez Knicks » Wed May 20, 2020 2:33 pm

moocow007 wrote:A reasonable expectation for someone drafted in the late lottery is a solid rotational player and potential starter. High expectation is a starter with top 10 realization for his position capabilities. So that is the reasonable floor to ceiling for late lottery picks.

If the Knicks get screwed (you know it's going to happen right lol :cry: ) and end up picking say 10th overall? You're more so looking at drafting someone that can maybe be a starter or early guy off the bench. So I don't know that the Knicks necessarily have depth at any position that would warrant precluding taking any guy or that would preclude still the BPA option.

Just want to get that out there since folks may be overestimating what a late lottery pick is expected to be.


Yea, especially in this draft. A lot of guys look like they can be solid/good role players, but doesn't seem like there are many stars in this one....of course, never know for sure.

I would be happy if we can find a solid starter drafting around 7 or 8.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1559 » by mpharris36 » Wed May 20, 2020 2:34 pm

moocow007 wrote:A reasonable expectation for someone drafted in the late lottery is a solid rotational player and potential starter. High expectation is a starter with top 10 realization for his position capabilities. So that is the reasonable floor to ceiling for late lottery picks.

If the Knicks get screwed (you know it's going to happen right lol :cry: ) and end up picking say 10th overall? You're more so looking at drafting someone that can maybe be a starter or early guy off the bench. So I don't know that the Knicks necessarily have depth at any position that would warrant precluding taking any guy or that would preclude still the BPA option.

Just want to get that out there since folks may be overestimating what a late lottery pick is expected to be.


agreed if we are all the way down at 9 or 10 (which is extremely unlikely).

If we are 7 or 8...chances are there should be one or two guards that are worthy of being picked along with say someone like Obi Toppin. If thats the case I still believe you have to pick someone that makes more sense to being able to thrive within the organization then a guy who may seem a bit more talented but a bad fit.

If you have the absolute worst luck ever and start picking 10 you might even start looking at shot in the dark upside guys like Pokuševski
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 4) 

Post#1560 » by RHODEY » Wed May 20, 2020 2:36 pm

moocow007 wrote:A reasonable expectation for someone drafted in the late lottery is a solid rotational player and potential starter. High expectation is a starter with top 10 realization for his position capabilities. So that is the reasonable floor to ceiling for late lottery picks.

If the Knicks get screwed (you know it's going to happen right lol :cry: ) and end up picking say 10th overall? You're more so looking at drafting someone that can maybe be a starter or early guy off the bench. So I don't know that the Knicks necessarily have depth at any position that would warrant precluding taking any guy or that would preclude still the BPA option.

Just want to get that out there since folks may be overestimating what a late lottery pick is expected to be.


I'm expecting us to pick 7th or 8th, would be pleasantly surprised to pick 6th and ecstatic to pick 1-5 ....

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