SmartWentCrazy wrote:MagicBagley18 wrote:SmartWentCrazy wrote:
This has always been one of our few outs towards a ring regardless of what we did with Jaylen. Re-signing Jaylen has zero negative impact towards our chase for an MVP level talent.
If one of the MVP level players were to want to come here as a FA in 2021, we’d let Hayward walk and trade Brown to a team with cap space.
If an MVP level player became available [guessing James Harden], a 23 year old 20-6-2 59% TS two-way is an attractive asset and a good salary filler.
You keep repeating that its ‘the final nail in the coffin’ but theres just zero evidence it detrimentally impacted us. I’d guess he was re-signed to be traded, probably with Smart. Jaylen is a confidence player, and the externalities of giving him the contract he was always going to get now as opposed to waiting meant he wouldnt press as hard and he’d raise his trade value in the interim.
I just like the fact that you’re open and or acknowledge that brown was most likely re-signed to be traded. Saying that around here to some is treated like blasphemy. if Jaylen plays so well that trading him looks foolish that’s a win for the Celtics and us as fans but make no mistakes about it he’s not untouchable and while no player truly is- Tatum is the untouchable one of the 2.
Again, not saying it happens or it’s likely but If turned jaylen brown into a beal or a beal level player via trade that’s a tremendous win for the Celtics.
But isnt that a separate than arguing that re-signing him was a poor decision [the tamer version of the final nail quote]? Ive argued from the start that when we trade Jaylen, I will take my victory lap on his contract.
My point is this— does Jaylen play better on an extension or without one? Which situation optimizes his trade value?
Guessing we trade Jaylen and Smart for Harden. Or Jaylen and Smart to Utah in a deal for Mitchell [Tatum seems to have a love affair with that dude].
Hard pass on Beal, FWIW. He’s broken. Plays no D and too established to flip the switch back on.
As I’ve said before I would have traded Jaylen in previous trades but I digress. On beal I’m not sure how he’s broken unless there’s an injury your privy to and I am not. he’s also in a **** situation and we’ve seen countless times guys come here or into a winning situation with a renewed interest on D- I disagree that he wouldn’t flip the switch on, the wizards blow and he knows they need him on offense. He wouldn’t have that pressure here or elsewhere.
Is he gonna be all world defense? No but more than serviceable. Furthermore on brown- what’s done is done but the realization is he’s way more of a trade chip than he his a foundational franchise building block and you me and about a handful of others realize that whereas the others truly believe he has all nba superstar potential.