Potential sleepers

UcanUwill · Post #1661 » by **UcanUwill** » Tue May 26, 2020 3:44 pm

Fischella wrote:I think Rokas could be worth a late 1st but I don't think he stays in this year's draft

He announced that he stays.

No-Man · Post #1662 » by **No-Man** » Wed May 27, 2020 12:09 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Fischella wrote:I think Rokas could be worth a late 1st but I don't think he stays in this year's draft

He announced that he stays.

Where?

UcanUwill · Post #1663 » by **UcanUwill** » Wed May 27, 2020 12:38 pm

Fischella wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Fischella wrote:I think Rokas could be worth a late 1st but I don't think he stays in this year's draft

He announced that he stays.

Where?

Sorry, I got that wrong, he didnt guarantee that he stays, he just implied it when he declared. Blazevicius is another Lithuanian who declared, but I know nothing of him, do you heard of him?

No-Man · Post #1664 » by **No-Man** » Wed May 27, 2020 12:41 pm

I don't think any of them are staying in, If I were to guess, do you mean marek blazevic?

UcanUwill · Post #1665 » by **UcanUwill** » Wed May 27, 2020 12:46 pm

Fischella wrote:I don't think any of them are staying in, If I were to guess, do you mean marek blazevic?

Yes, Marek Blazevic, just googling him, I havent watched Rytas since Valanciunas days, did even know he had this slavic name (Blazevic), in media its always lithuanized to Blazevic-ius, so go figure. Jokubaitis I think can stay, he is definitely draft and stash, he is not interesting in coming over, but when he declared he implied that he wants to stay, well, we will see.

getrichordie · Post #1666 » by **getrichordie** » Sun May 31, 2020 7:28 pm

Going through some of the senior players that I haven't seen mentioned.

Idris Joyner out of Merrimack is an interesting player. Turned 22 into March. Has a nice little offensive repertoire. Posted some good metrics.

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getrichordie · Post #1667 » by **getrichordie** » Sun May 31, 2020 10:28 pm

This guy looks kind of interesting. 6'10 forward who looks like he has some stretch potential.

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Post #1668 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 6:52 pm

getrichordie wrote:
King Ken wrote:
Ghost of Kleine wrote:
I've been saying this for awhile now, And people were acting like I was crazy or something. But for my part, He does remind me of a mix of three players mostly:

1- Fred Van Vleet. His poise/ clutch shot making, etc. Strong playmaking POTENTIAL ( should he develop it fully, pesky defense ( when he's locked in, and committed).
2- Prime Deron Williams. His elite ability to penetrate/ breakdown defenses and score super efficiently around/at the rim.
3- Kyrie Irving. His burst, advanced ballhandling skills, elite isolation scoring ability too. Just very clever and crafty as an iso scorer.

I think he's a big time sleeper that projects best in the 17- 25 range of the draft.

I agree with that range but I doubt he will be a 1st rounder.

7/7.5 PG prospects usually tend to be in this range but sadly, this is a year where the PG class is insanely deep. I think he may fall to the 2nd round just due to the draft's positional depth. We saw this happen last year with the center position.

What makes you think Riller won't be a first rounder?

I like him as a Lou Williams type, but I still think he falls to the 2nd round because he's 23, smaller conference, tweener size, questionable defensive ability, and not a great 3 point shooter.

Ghost of Kleine · Post #1669 » by **Ghost of Kleine** » Mon Jun 1, 2020 10:14 pm

Ruzious wrote:
getrichordie wrote:
King Ken wrote:I agree with that range but I doubt he will be a 1st rounder.

7/7.5 PG prospects usually tend to be in this range but sadly, this is a year where the PG class is insanely deep. I think he may fall to the 2nd round just due to the draft's positional depth. We saw this happen last year with the center position.

What makes you think Riller won't be a first rounder?

I like him as a Lou Williams type, but I still think he falls to the 2nd round because he's 23, smaller conference, tweener size, questionable defensive ability, and not a great 3 point shooter.

Quite possibly. :wink:

But IF he does, He'll bring tremendous value to some team.

doordoor123 · Post #1670 » by **doordoor123** » Fri Jun 5, 2020 3:06 am

Sir-Swish-A-Lot wrote:CJ Elleby (19 years old) is a solid 2-way player from the wing position. He can effectively guard 1-4. He is a legit 6'6 without shoes on, 6'7 in shoes. CJ led the Pac-12 in total steals (56)/steals per game (1.8) as I mentioned above and was 4th in the Pac-12 in points per game (18.9 ppg) while leading his team in rebounds per game (7.8). CJ is a 82% ft shooter as well as being a clutch player.

He reminds me a lot of Klay Thompson who also played college basketball at Washington State. Not saying that he will be as good a player as Klay but he has a lot of Klay's characteristics in his game. Klay is mentoring CJ as both went to the same college and have developed a bond as Klay has said that he sees a lot of himself in CJ. Former NBA coach Earl Watson has called Elleby worthy of a first round pick & potentially the steal of the draft. NBADraft.net currently has CJ at #37 overall and had him as a late 1st rounder (#26) before that.

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He’s more like Malcolm Brogdon. He has huge hands is a good ball handler. He was playing really well in summer league last year. He had two games where he looked really good, but Nickeil Alexander-Walker also looked great so take it with a grain of salt. His game is made for the space in the NBA.

getrichordie · Post #1671 » by **getrichordie** » Fri Jun 5, 2020 12:44 pm

He’s more like Malcolm Brogdon. He has huge hands is a good ball handler. He was playing really well in summer league last year. He had two games where he looked really good, but Nickeil Alexander-Walker also looked great so take it with a grain of salt. His game is made for the space in the NBA.

That's a hot take for someone who is projected late 2nd to undrafted.

No-Man · Post #1672 » by **No-Man** » Fri Jun 5, 2020 1:39 pm

I think Elleby is kinda like a worse Dillon Brooks

karkinos · Post #1673 » by **karkinos** » Sat Jun 6, 2020 2:28 pm

bowen born, UNI commit, gatorade's iowa basketball player of the year
averaged 36 a game going left basically his entire senior year
50/40 kinda guy, great mechanics. wide variety of scoring skills. small at 5'11" but looking at his wiry frame maybe he'll get lucky as a late bloomer and grow a few inches taller during college.
needs to develop his right hand more. will be fun to watch during college if he puts up the same points he did in HS.

Catchall · Post #1674 » by **Catchall** » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:27 am

Keyontae Johnson from Florida is worth a look. NBA athlete, 2% steal rate, 77% ft, 38% 3pt, rebounds well for a wing. He could be a decent 3D guy. He's only 3 months older than Cassius Stanley at Duke.

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Catchall · Post #1675 » by **Catchall** » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:32 am

Reggie Perry from Miss. St. is getting a bit underrated, imo. If you were to ask me which of the following bigs could play effective minutes at the 4, with the options being Isaiah Stewart, Precious Achiuwa, Vernon Carey, Jalen Smith and Reggie Perry, I think the best answer might be Perry.

He's 6'9" 250 lbs., 7'+ wingspan (Al Horford measurables), and he seems to have enough handle, body control, passing ability and shooting touch that he might be able to play meaningful minutes at the 4. The only question would be his ability to guard switches, but I think he can do that better than Carey and Smith at a minimum.

I'm going through his stats and some of his tape, and he looks like he could have the potential to be a value-pick version of Al Horford. At a minimum, his SEC stats as a sophomore easily compare with Grant Williams. His NBA Combine athleticism numbers from last year eclipse Williams' as well.

Nice pickup in the 2nd round.

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getrichordie · Post #1676 » by **getrichordie** » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:37 am

Spoiler:

You would think he would be good by looking at his stats and tape, but scouts have remarked that his awareness on both ends of the floor is extremely bad to the point where you wonder if he even goes drafted.

Catchall · Post #1677 » by **Catchall** » Thu Jun 11, 2020 3:55 am

getrichordie wrote:
Spoiler:
Catchall wrote:Reggie Perry from Miss. St. is getting a bit underrated, imo. If you were to ask me which of the following bigs could play effective minutes at the 4, with the options being Isaiah Stewart, Precious Achiuwa, Vernon Carey, Jalen Smith and Reggie Perry, I think the best answer might be Perry.

He's 6'9" 250 lbs., 7'+ wingspan (Al Horford measurables), and he seems to have enough handle, body control, passing ability and shooting touch that he might be able to play meaningful minutes at the 4. The only question would be his ability to guard switches, but I think he can do that better than Carey and Smith at a minimum.

I'm going through his stats and some of his tape, and he looks like he could have the potential to be a value-pick version of Al Horford. At a minimum, his SEC stats as a sophomore easily compare with Grant Williams. His NBA Combine athleticism numbers from last year eclipse Williams' as well.

Nice pickup in the 2nd round.

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You would think he would be good by looking at his stats and tape, but scouts have remarked that his awareness on both ends of the floor is extremely bad to the point where you wonder if he even goes drafted.

Have you got a link for that? I haven't seen that. Perry was also a main cog for Team USA U19 a couple years ago. I'll post some of those highlights below as well, along with his McDonald's footage.

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getrichordie · Post #1678 » by **getrichordie** » Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:21 am

Spoiler:

Gotta use spoilers, my man.

I've seen the footage. I believe I heard it on a podcast w/ Wasserman and maybe Fran F.? Or maybe it was John Hollinger? I'll see if I can dig it up again.

getrichordie · Post #1679 » by **getrichordie** » Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:29 am

catchall wrote:...

Did find some other notes corroborating what I heard on podcast.

Weaknesses (written by Gribanov)

> Decision making needs a lot of work. Poor shot selection and sloppy passing.

> Out of position defensively too often. Not always aware of what’s going on or in the wrong spot. Misses rotations.

> Jump shot not consistent enough out behind the 3 point line, combined with turnover issues makes it tough to play him at the wing. Release point a little low.

> A bit upright with the dribble, makes him susceptible to strips. Some decent vision but takes too long to make the decision to pass and pass too often inaccurate.

getrichordie · Post #1680 » by **getrichordie** » Thu Jun 11, 2020 4:37 am

Spoiler:

Found it. It was Gribanov's analysis on Perry in his youtube videos. Make sure to subscribe. He puts out good content and has a fun accent.

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