Woj: Some Players getting cold feet about playing in Orlando

[slick_watts]

But why are NBA players in Orlando crossing paths with "Boonie Farmers" that are 2+ hours and a couple hundred miles from them??

people travel to and from disney within florida especially when it is open during summertime. i can't believe you are not taking this seriously. goods are transported to and from farms. on trucks.

What about "closed bubble" are you not taking seriously? Im sure the 100+ page document that the NBAPA agreed to has a check on that. If they are not letting the players families in for 7 weeks they are sure as heck not gonna let in some farmer from West Palm.

Also, speaking of the "goods" - you should probably read some of the CDC info produced recently about how hard it is to get Corona via touch. And even if you could, by the time that food is produced (by people in gloves), transported (by people in gloves), and then put out (by people INSIDE the bubble who have been tested every day) that likelihood goes WAY down.

as a famous scientist once said, the lack of humility before nature being displayed here staggers me.

[dhsilv2]

Why wouldn’t they have been staying in shape to begin with? If the teams didn’t give these players guidelines on “working from home” then that’s on them. The season was never cancelled.

lol, because they're human beings and NOBODY is in game shape unless they're regularly playing. Why do you think the nba has a preseason and training camp?

And if they don't have a proper setup, say the guys who live in condo's in downtown metros...what in the hell were they supposed to be doing? Yoga isn't keeping you in game shape.

You need instructions on how to stay in shape? Run, lift and don’t eat garbage. These guys are worth multiple millions of dollars. JC with the excuses.

Lift what? Run? No, you're not going to stay in game shape going for a run. You have absolutely ZERO idea how freaking hard it is to stay in game shape. Not all these guys are multie millionaires either. Just like a HELL of a lot of us have gained weight and gotten in worse shape with gyms being closed, staying in, etc so did nba players. They're human beings just like us and just like us they'll need transition time to get back to their normal work schedules. I'm absolutely dreading driving into work and putting on work clothing going forward.

[pipfan]

My point about teachers is simple-why are bball players allowed to not play and get paid? I understand supply and demand, but why do teachers (and thousands of other professions) have to return to work and bball players (with the top preventative measures in place) get to sit out and get paid?

The owners could use this to take back the league a bit. Play or no pay (once the players and league agree on the guidelines thru the CBA). Sorry, I just don't have sympathy for players who would expect to get paid and not play when their team is on the court. OF COURSE, they don't have to play-but they don't have to be paid either.

[Smirk]

Americans are still dying at an alarming rate.

This is for the most part not true at all. Not even remotely true.

[HeatIn5]

people travel to and from disney within florida especially when it is open during summertime. i can't believe you are not taking this seriously. goods are transported to and from farms. on trucks.

What about "closed bubble" are you not taking seriously? Im sure the 100+ page document that the NBAPA agreed to has a check on that. If they are not letting the players families in for 7 weeks they are sure as heck not gonna let in some farmer from West Palm.

Also, speaking of the "goods" - you should probably read some of the CDC info produced recently about how hard it is to get Corona via touch. And even if you could, by the time that food is produced (by people in gloves), transported (by people in gloves), and then put out (by people INSIDE the bubble who have been tested every day) that likelihood goes WAY down.

as a famous scientist once said, the lack of humility before nature being displayed here staggers me.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely think it is dangerous and I personally would not feel 100% great about doing it. However there are a lot of people in this world and specifically this country who feel it is okay and necessary to ease into society.

If the NBAPA and the league agree, I think it is okay and I am excited. I have faith that the players will make sure they are put in a position to be okay. There are some really smart ones among them that have voices.


Just have some faith.

[NBAFan93]

I run a school with about 100 teachers. We are online now, but in August we will be back on campus. If a teacher says "even with the safety precautions, I don't feel safe in returning" I would find a new teacher and let that one go. Sorry, but that's the way it is. Why are these guys different?

The pool of teachers available in any given metropolitan city is immensely greater than the ~500 players actively on an nba roster. I can only agree with your comparison for players 12-15th that get little to no playing time.

Can you easily replace a Lillard? No
Can you easily replace a Ibaka? No
Can you easily replace a Dwight? No
Can you easily replace a Kaminsky? Still no but some options..
Can you easily replace the 15th man? Sure....

Your teacher comparison is infinitely different because
1) pool size to choose from
2) all teachers are treated equal in their ability to teach..there's no tiers of teachers
3) they are all paid from the same scale (generally years of experience)

I think his comparison is fine. Yes it’s hard to find a guy off the street to replace someone like Lillard, but the next star up can slide into his role eventually and then it all trickles down to there being an “opening” for who is essentially the worst player in the league.

Same thing happens w/ a teacher. Highly paid veteran teacher doesn’t want to teach, they leave and eventually down the line some substitue teacher or recent college grad gets a full time position.

If going to work w/ the risk of covid is a requirement for your job, and you aren’t willing to do that, it’s just a reality that you can’t do that job anymore. Find a different job where you can work at home and let someone else take your place. It isn’t the responsibility of every employer in America to accept and keep paying workers who won’t come to work.

The risk of catching a virus when you go out was always there.

[Time for Change]

What are they going to do if a dozen players test positive in the first week? Shut the whole thing down after all the time and expense setting it up?

[Billy Goat]

lol, because they're human beings and NOBODY is in game shape unless they're regularly playing. Why do you think the nba has a preseason and training camp?

And if they don't have a proper setup, say the guys who live in condo's in downtown metros...what in the hell were they supposed to be doing? Yoga isn't keeping you in game shape.

You need instructions on how to stay in shape? Run, lift and don’t eat garbage. These guys are worth multiple millions of dollars. JC with the excuses.

Lift what? Run? No, you're not going to stay in game shape going for a run. You have absolutely ZERO idea how freaking hard it is to stay in game shape. Not all these guys are multie millionaires either. Just like a HELL of a lot of us have gained weight and gotten in worse shape with gyms being closed, staying in, etc so did nba players. They're human beings just like us and just like us they'll need transition time to get back to their normal work schedules. I'm absolutely dreading driving into work and putting on work clothing going forward.

These guys are in their athletic peaks. Running and eating right will at least keep the blood flowing. Gyms are open now- the season isn’t scheduled to start for a month and a half- what’s the excuse? What do players do during a typical offseason ? The league is going to die because of this and fans have no one to blame but themselves. Give people an inch and they’re going to take the mile.

[Nate505]

This thread shows us we aren't that far removed from the Romans and the gladiators. You must risk your health for our entertainment. Embarrassing and appalling.

And the veiled racism isn't very veiled.

If they don't want to play, fine with me. There's nobody forcing them to do anything. All NBA players could retire right now and that would be within their rights as US citizens to do so.

But without games, there's no revenue, and without revenue, their contracts can't get paid. That's simply how it works.

[dhsilv2]

You need instructions on how to stay in shape? Run, lift and don’t eat garbage. These guys are worth multiple millions of dollars. JC with the excuses.

Lift what? Run? No, you're not going to stay in game shape going for a run. You have absolutely ZERO idea how freaking hard it is to stay in game shape. Not all these guys are multie millionaires either. Just like a HELL of a lot of us have gained weight and gotten in worse shape with gyms being closed, staying in, etc so did nba players. They're human beings just like us and just like us they'll need transition time to get back to their normal work schedules. I'm absolutely dreading driving into work and putting on work clothing going forward.

These guys are in their athletic peaks. Running and eating right will at least keep the blood flowing. Gyms are open now- the season isn’t scheduled to start for a month and a half- what’s the excuse? What do players do during a typical offseason ? The league is going to die because of this and fans have no one to blame but themselves. Give people an inch and they’re going to take the mile.

Gyms are open in some places yes. The comment I took issue with was the one about they'd be playing ALREADY which is absurd, the country only recently started opening back up and it isn't in all places.

During a typical off season players get out of shape....this was the length of a typical off season. That's WITH access to gyms and with them playing basketball in pickup games regularly. They have been without both during this break.

The league isn't going anywhere and fans will be back just as soon as they're ready. The 99 and 12 lockouts were longer than this and it didn't hurt the league one bit. You're overacting like crazy on this.

[hippesthippo]

I've said this before.. how long are these men supposed to remain celibate?

Poor millionaires have to get reacquainted with hornpub and jergens like common folk.

Umm.. common folk have sex more than once every two months. Men in their twenties absolutely have sex more than once every 2 months.

Not exactly sure how you've been living, but it sounds like you're missing out on an activity that is vital for human health.

[Nate505]

I've said this before.. how long are these men supposed to remain celibate?

Poor millionaires have to get reacquainted with hornpub and jergens like common folk.

Umm.. common folk have sex more than once every two months. Men in their twenties absolutely have sex more than once every 2 months.

Not exactly sure how you've been living, but it sounds like you're missing out on an activity that is vital for human health.

One wonders how AC Green was able to play in so many consecutive games missing such a vital component to human health.

[Texas Chuck]

But without games, there's no revenue, and without revenue, their contracts can't get paid. That's simply how it works.

Do you honestly think I don't understand that?

But read many of the actual posts itt and the sense of entitlement and dismissive nature towards the players. It boils down for far too many to I want to be entertained and I could care less the potential risks to these other people.

[Klayforspicy]

Florida rates spiked lol. Really and truly the season should be shutdown but im not gonna protest it.

[Nate505]

But without games, there's no revenue, and without revenue, their contracts can't get paid. That's simply how it works.

Do you honestly think I don't understand that?

But read many of the actual posts itt and the sense of entitlement and dismissive nature towards the players. It boils down for far too many to I want to be entertained and I could care less the potential risks to these other people.

Is anyone suggesting they be forced to play? If not then it's a matter of voluntarily choices. I'm sure some don't care about their health and just want sports back on, but as long as the players aren't forced into this then that's their risk they have the right to take or not take.

[Texas Chuck]

Is anyone suggesting they be forced to play? If not then it's a matter of voluntarily choices. I'm sure some don't care about their health and just want sports back on, but as long as the players aren't forced into this then that's their risk they have the right to take or not take.

I feel like you aren't listening to the point I was making and keep responding to something else. It's confusing. Yes, we all have to make decisions between going back to life and protecting ourselves and others. And that includes NBA players. I have zero issues with that being discussed.

I have issue with those who only care about their entertainment and attacking players for not catering to their whims. That's my issue.

[Tony Franciosa]

However there are a lot of people in this world and specifically this country who feel it is okay and necessary to ease into society.

these people. they are not smart people.

[NBAFan93]

What are they going to do if a dozen players test positive in the first week? Shut the whole thing down after all the time and expense setting it up?

They never should have shut things down in the first place. All we needed to do was keep infectious people out of the nursing homes and isolate the sick/high risk people and we’d have less than 1/2 the deaths we’ve had.

All this shutting things down for healthy and active people accomplished very little and we know nothing else new and aren’t in any better of a position than we were in March.

CDC the other day actually said they’ve seen very little occurrence of asymptomatic people spreading the virus. Meanwhile we’ve been shut up in our houses w/ no symptoms thinking we can have it and not know it and be getting others sick if we go outside - for almost 3 months.

[hippesthippo]

Poor millionaires have to get reacquainted with hornpub and jergens like common folk.

Umm.. common folk have sex more than once every two months. Men in their twenties absolutely have sex more than once every 2 months.

Not exactly sure how you've been living, but it sounds like you're missing out on an activity that is vital for human health.

One wonders how AC Green was able to play in so many consecutive games missing such a vital component to human health.

It's sure got me wondering. That's what, 1 player out of roughly 20,000 over the last 40 years?

[Nate505]

Is anyone suggesting they be forced to play? If not then it's a matter of voluntarily choices. I'm sure some don't care about their health and just want sports back on, but as long as the players aren't forced into this then that's their risk they have the right to take or not take.

I feel like you aren't listening to the point I was making and keep responding to something else. It's confusing. Yes, we all have to make decisions between going back to life and protecting ourselves and others. And that includes NBA players. I have zero issues with that being discussed.

I have issue with those who only care about their entertainment and attacking players for not catering to their whims. That's my issue.

Something else? Did you not say this?

"You must risk your health for our entertainment"

Who is suggesting that?