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REDDzone · Post #1141 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 12, 2020 5:57 pm

she ded

So, main and comain event fighters miss weight, plus two withdrawals. What a dumpster fire.

REDDzone · Post #1142 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 12, 2020 6:03 pm

Also, hasn't Marvin Vettori literally been scheduled for, and eventually cancelled from, every single card since the pandemic began?

LOL, and now his opponent misses weight? I feel like they better have a second ref on standby because the first ref won't be able to pull Vettori off that guy's lifeless body after all the frustration he has built up.

Dupp · Post #1143 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jun 12, 2020 10:11 pm

Poirier and hooker headlining a June 27th event

cowboyronnie · Post #1144 » by **cowboyronnie** » Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:50 pm

REDDzone wrote:I've been an MMA fan for a long time and have never seen anyone drop out of as many fights as Ray Borg due to various personal reasons, mysterious illnesses, or weird circumstances. It's not close to close.

Not to mention, attacks by Irish superstars and their hangers-on.

A lot of these drop-outs have been since his kid was born with some sort of anomaly, so I can't but forgive everything. I worry about the financial cost of all these damn camps.

REDDzone · Post #1145 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Jun 13, 2020 2:17 am

cowboyronnie wrote:
REDDzone wrote:I've been an MMA fan for a long time and have never seen anyone drop out of as many fights as Ray Borg due to various personal reasons, mysterious illnesses, or weird circumstances. It's not close to close.

Not to mention, attacks by Irish superstars and their hangers-on.

Attacks by random Irish thugs was meant to be covered under "weird circumstances" actually.

Jasen777 · Post #1146 » by **Jasen777** » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:19 am

REDDzone wrote:she ded

Read on Twitter

So, main and comain event fighters miss weight, plus two withdrawals. What a dumpster fire.

We're really doing this dumb weight cutting until someone dies. And probably after that too.

Jasen777 · Post #1147 » by **Jasen777** » Sat Jun 13, 2020 4:21 am

Adashev missed weight after taking the fight on 3 days' notice. Kind of messed up he losses 20% of his money. But it's not really fair to his opponent either...

AirCanadaMouse · Post #1148 » by **AirCanadaMouse** » Sat Jun 13, 2020 11:50 pm

Jasen777 wrote:Adashev missed weight after taking the fight on 3 days' notice. Kind of messed up he losses 20% of his money. But it's not really fair to his opponent either...

How about how unfair it is now...

Ufc did this guy wrong. He’s 3-1 in MMA, inexperienced and has no right to be in the ufc. He’s barely been training in MMA, has 19 kick boxing fights. Not nearly enough for ufc.

He needed way more time before taking a short notice fight even if Nam isn’t the best. He’s experienced. Not a good look from the UFC at all.

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cowboyronnie · Post #1149 » by **cowboyronnie** » Sun Jun 14, 2020 10:07 pm

Damn, that was some terrible quality fighting from start to finish. So sloppy, esp the women's fights. One woman on the prelims reacted like she'd never been hit before, cowered into the fence.

And that short-armed dude Nam fought. LOL what?

Post #1150 » by **Headliner** » Tue Jun 16, 2020 10:58 am

Crappy Card, but what do you expect when the TOTAL cost for all the fighters was 96 K.

Lol that’s a joke. 96k for an entire card. I think Eye was the highest paid at 11k

Imagine almost killing yourself in a weightcut, training like a beast and getting punched in the face for a take home of probably Like 6k

Also, imagine the great fights we would get if the ufc actually paid these guys real money, and took care of them. Like giving them health insurance, pension, and covered X amount towards coaching each fight. We’d be watching the Best of the best.

Post #1151 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 8:24 am

Headliner wrote:Crappy Card, but what do you expect when the TOTAL cost for all the fighters was 96 K.

Lol that’s a joke. 96k for an entire card. I think Eye was the highest paid at 11k

Imagine almost killing yourself in a weightcut, training like a beast and getting punched in the face for a take home of probably Like 6k

Also, imagine the great fights we would get if the ufc actually paid these guys real money, and took care of them. Like giving them health insurance, pension, and covered X amount towards coaching each fight. We’d be watching the Best of the best.

Im curious where you're getting the 96k payout from? MMAJunkie has the payout at 782k payout.
https://mmajunkie.usatoday.com/2020/06/ufc-on-espn-10-salaries-cynthia-calvillo-andre-fili-top-782k-payroll

Post #1152 » by **Headliner** » Thu Jun 18, 2020 10:24 am

https://www.bjpenn.com/mma-news/ufc-on-espn/ufc-on-espn-10-promotional-guidelines-payouts-total-lowest-of-any-fight-card-in-2020/

The 700k makes much more sense

The numbers I read were promotional payouts, I thought it was just flat payouts. Makes way more sense haha

Dupp · Post #1153 » by **Dupp** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:05 pm

Till and Whitaker fighting on a fight night in July. I thought they were gonna be at ufc 252. Hopefully Whitaker wins and can get another shot at the winner of costa and Izzy.

REDDzone · Post #1154 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 8:44 pm

I'm sticking with my theory that neither Whitaker nor Romero will ever be the same again after their wars. I really think they took too much out of each other.

REDDzone · Post #1155 » by **REDDzone** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 9:05 pm

I haven't touted many prospects on here in recent years because I'm not as much into regional MMA as I used to be. That said, I got one for you guys...Max Rohskopf who will be making his short notice debut for the UFC tomorrow.

I noticed this guy originally on the grappling scene and have been following him in MMA ever since. Tough as nails, good wrestling, and an ever improving dynamic submission game. Let's go.

AirCanadaMouse · Post #1156 » by **AirCanadaMouse** » Fri Jun 19, 2020 11:33 pm

REDDzone wrote:I haven't touted many prospects on here in recent years because I'm not as much into regional MMA as I used to be. That said, I got one for you guys...Max Rohskopf who will be making his short notice debut for the UFC tomorrow.

I noticed this guy originally on the grappling scene and have been following him in MMA ever since. Tough as nails, good wrestling, and an ever improving dynamic submission game. Let's go.

Thanks buddy! Just dished out some money on him, no harm if it losses.

I'll never forget when you spoke about Rick Glenn, when I was fully expecting him to lose handily by the Gavin Tucker hype train... well, he put on a absolute beating against my boy Gavin Tucker. That was enough for me to take you seriously from here on out.

LOL, sorry, I tend to remember really random things. Just let it be.

REDDzone · Post #1157 » by **REDDzone** » Sat Jun 20, 2020 1:03 am

AirCanadaMouse wrote:
REDDzone wrote:I haven't touted many prospects on here in recent years because I'm not as much into regional MMA as I used to be. That said, I got one for you guys...Max Rohskopf who will be making his short notice debut for the UFC tomorrow.

I noticed this guy originally on the grappling scene and have been following him in MMA ever since. Tough as nails, good wrestling, and an ever improving dynamic submission game. Let's go.

Thanks buddy! Just dished out some money on him, no harm if it losses.

I'll never forget when you spoke about Rick Glenn, when I was fully expecting him to lose handily by the Gavin Tucker hype train... well, he put on a absolute beating against my boy Gavin Tucker. That was enough for me to take you seriously from here on out.

LOL, sorry, I tend to remember really random things. Just let it be.

Hey man, I'll admit that Rick was much more of an emotional endorsement from me. Hard and precise GnP, a lot of toughness, but otherwise just a training partner of mine who I'll always root for.

Rohskopf is different, no personal connection. I'm not sure of his pedigree outside of being under Drysdale but I've seen him submit grapplers that he had no business submitting, and his attack rate on the ground is nuts. Best part is that his background is actually wrestling as opposed to BJJ.

Tbh I don't think I've endorsed a prospect on this site since Beneil Dariush who panned out rankings wise but who I honestly thought would pan out a little better contendership wise. I think ultimately his athleticism may have held him back a little.

Dupp · Post #1158 » by **Dupp** » Sat Jun 20, 2020 4:38 am

REDDzone wrote:I'm sticking with my theory that neither Whitaker nor Romero will ever be the same again after their wars. I really think they took too much out of each other.

Whitaker has spoken about being not really there mentally for the Izzy fight and around that time. Dunno about physically though.

It is kinda shocking to see the punch that Izzy knocked him out with compared to some of the shots he took from Yoel.

Romero starts so bloody slow. Both Whitaker fights and the costa fight he gave up the first two rounds. Dunno why he paced himself in a 3 round fight with costa.

AirCanadaMouse · Post #1159 » by **AirCanadaMouse** » Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:30 pm

REDDzone wrote:
AirCanadaMouse wrote:
REDDzone wrote:I haven't touted many prospects on here in recent years because I'm not as much into regional MMA as I used to be. That said, I got one for you guys...Max Rohskopf who will be making his short notice debut for the UFC tomorrow.

I noticed this guy originally on the grappling scene and have been following him in MMA ever since. Tough as nails, good wrestling, and an ever improving dynamic submission game. Let's go.

Thanks buddy! Just dished out some money on him, no harm if it losses.

I'll never forget when you spoke about Rick Glenn, when I was fully expecting him to lose handily by the Gavin Tucker hype train... well, he put on a absolute beating against my boy Gavin Tucker. That was enough for me to take you seriously from here on out.

LOL, sorry, I tend to remember really random things. Just let it be.

Hey man, I'll admit that Rick was much more of an emotional endorsement from me. Hard and precise GnP, a lot of toughness, but otherwise just a training partner of mine who I'll always root for.

Rohskopf is different, no personal connection. I'm not sure of his pedigree outside of being under Drysdale but I've seen him submit grapplers that he had no business submitting, and his attack rate on the ground is nuts. Best part is that his background is actually wrestling as opposed to BJJ.

Tbh I don't think I've endorsed a prospect on this site since Beneil Dariush who panned out rankings wise but who I honestly thought would pan out a little better contendership wise. I think ultimately his athleticism may have held him back a little.

Tough, reading those tweets and it seems everyone was on this hype train. He gassed out really hard, it was over once he couldn’t take full advantage of some dominant positions. Still, on 10 days notice.

Might be the one time where I agree with a corner trying to get their fighter out there. It could’ve arguably been 1-1 tbh

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Post #1160 » by **Duke4life831** » Sun Jun 21, 2020 3:24 am

HW is such a joke of a division.

Blades is ranked as the 3rd best HW in the UFC. He has zero standup skills and zero cardio. The gap between the top of the division and everyone else is beyond ridiculous.

Stipe: Can wrestle, has legit standup skills and cardio
DC: A LHW convert.
Francis: Crap cardio, zero wrestling and grappling ability. But has crazy KO power

No one outside of that top 3 has any chance at all at competing with them. But Stipe is going to be 38 this year and DC is 41.

The UFC better hope they find some legit young talent or more of their LHW guys move up. Because the depth in that division is beyond laughable and will only get worse once DC and Stipe hang it up.